Iraq or Mexico: Who Threatens America More?

[JayHawk]

Bullshit. 50% of your Mosque hold radical Muslims that did not occur overnight. Get a real point of view. But if you like a minoritypopulation in your country dictating what your country does then enjoy....

 

[Lostlover]

The tube, The plane plot, the kidnappers....get real your defending that. Pray to the east my brother pray east

Remember also, this is the same person that compared Blair's election to Hitler's rise.

Oh, and back to the topic. I think Mexico is a greater threat. Threat only as in terms of "taking jobs."

America however, unlike a good portion of Europe, actually assimilates it's citizen into our psyche. If you think about it, we haven't had any homegrown terrorists from middle eastern background.

 

[JayHawk]

SO radical Muslims having the ability to attack your country from the inside is a US problem. Hows about France. No problem there huh? You can not cow tow to terrorist and thats what you suggest would be best.

 

[JayHawk]

I have drifted far frolm the topic but the question was who is the greatest threat.

I must say none of the above.

Opressed Muslims who wish to destroy all that is american because they are brainwashed from bitrth to believe it is worthwhile. Those folks and especially their demented leaders are our greatest threats

 

[JayHawk]

I have no idea why we do not protect our borders. I think we thought our neighbors were friends. AND they are but their protects are as porous as ours are so we can't trust who would come through our neighbors

 

[JayHawk]

France is being ripped apart by radical unemployed muslim who burn buses and kill citizens. Put down the Sun and pick up the Times.

By the way do you look at the pg 3 girl or just wish there was a pg 4 guy?

 

[JayHawk]

No you failed to understand the the France connection you feel it would seem from your post that France is hunky dory. No so.

I made the pg 3 remark to add some lighthearted ness to your bitterness. How discussing the nude on Pg 3 is racism I have no idea. I guess it is belittling if ...uhh...you disagree with nudity.

Your countries racism against Muslims appears to be the main problem as noted in this study French and US approaches to understanding Islam

I can not quote from the study as is requested on the page. But feel free to educate yourself. One of the finer points the study makes is how in Europe and the specific example was in the UK where unemployment is double that of other immigrants, the population is segregated, the outlook is dim.

That is the problem and this was based off, in part, a study completed in the UK in Spring of 2001. The problem was already there.

 

[Nishin]

France is being ripped apart by radical unemployed muslim who burn buses and kill citizens. Put down the Sun and pick up the Times.

RIDICULOUS... put down the Times and come see for yourself.

 

[HighParkLover]

I feel America is its own worse enemy and the threat is from within. No I am not anti-American as I have family and friends who live in the USA and I visit regulairly and do enjoy it when I am there but I feel the government of the USA is whats destroying the people and land.

 

[JayHawk]

I am in the school of the informed Mate. And just to show you that sometimes you should check things out. In an earlier post Mowrest corrected your spelling on Ally when he confronted some point or another. Or more like as he was avoiding it at that time. In any event the plural form of Ally is Allies as you spelled it. Yet you accept it easily. My point is do some research sometime and don't accept everything simply because you want to.

Ally from Dictionary.com


http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014224.php

November 29, 2006
French police can't even ensure their own safety
A sobering update on the French intifada. "French police the target in urban guerrilla war" by Jon Boyle for Reuters, with thanks to all who sent this in:

PARIS (Reuters) - Stoned, beaten and insulted, their vehicles torched by crowds of hostile youths, French police say they face an urban guerrilla war when they enter the run-down neighborhoods that ring the major cities.
"Our role is to guarantee the safety of people and property but the great difficulty today is that police are having problems ensuring their own safety," said Jerome Hanarte of the Alliance-Police Nationale union.

Bedside television interviews with officers hospitalized after beatings in "les banlieues," or suburbs, support statistics showing a 6.7 percent jump in violent crime in the 12 months to August.

Fourteen officers are hurt every day in the line of duty, unions estimate, and law and order is sure to feature prominently in next year's presidential election.

The head of the French crime statistics body told Reuters the rise in attacks on police was partly due to Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy's 2002 decision to order police back into tough areas, to disrupt the black economy that fuels crime.

Some residents complain the move spawned constant police harassment which has only exacerbated tensions with local youths, many of whom come from ethnic minorities.

"You can see discrimination in ID controls," complained Kader Latreche, 36, an Algerian with his own photo equipment repair shop in the La Courneuve suburb.

"Why is it always people from the Maghreb or black people who are being stopped and checked? If it happens over and over again, it gets to you. People are frustrated, that's obvious."...

"It's a false debate," said Hanarte, whose union is generally supportive of Sarkozy and wants judges to take a tougher stance against delinquents.

"Why put foot patrols in these districts if they will be systematically attacked by youngsters, who are repeatedly arrested and then systematically released by the justice system?

"Having police in these areas can only be a good idea if, beforehand ... police have arrested the delinquents in the suburbs. You have to start by that, restoring a certain calm."...

Comte says the threat to police is so great in some neighborhoods they should exercise their "right to withdraw." That means refusing to respond to emergency calls if they judge they cannot guarantee their own safety.

"Frankly, it's not worth getting your head kicked in for an end of year bonus of 200 euros ($256.8)," said the plain clothes officer.


Or for French civilization. After all, if the leadership isn't defending it, why should the police?

 

[Nishin]

^ And the mentions of Islam and deaths in this article are?

 

[bimmrboy]

I can't believe how this thread deteriorated into a race issue. I look at it this way, Mexico by far has the potential for a much longer term economic impact than Iraq. It doesn't matter if they're brown, red, green come from China or any other country, illegal immigration is an economic problem, NOT a racial one.

 

[xyzguy]

Group hug!

 

[JayHawk]

I can't believe how this thread deteriorated into a race issue. I look at it this way, Mexico by far has the potential for a much longer term economic impact than Iraq. It doesn't matter if they're brown, red, green come from China or any other country, illegal immigration is an economic problem, NOT a racial one.

How do you see it as a race issue? Not arguing I just don't see it. Unless you mean Whacko Islamist. I think any thread that has "Who threatens America more" would be empty without that referrence. It isn't jehovahs witnesses flying planes into buildings.

 

[bimmrboy]

How do you see it as a race issue? Not arguing I just don't see it. Unless you mean Whacko Islamist. I think any thread that has "Who threatens America more" would be empty without that referrence. It isn't jehovahs witnesses flying planes into buildings.

I was referring back to the the whole "you stole my land" thing that seemed to me to be tied around race.

The same thing applies to religion to. I still think the economic impact from illegal immigration is a bigger problem than the religious fanatics who hate the USA. Just look at the drain on the healthcare system. It's not just costs for the "free" medical care, it drives premiums up for everyone else draining family budgets across the board.

Even if you do just want to look at threats from a religious standpoint, it's not just Muslims who have a problem with the USA. I guess that's a little off topic though considering this was Mexico vs. Iraq.

 

[theFallenGod]

As a person who looks at this thread slowly become a pissing contest...

I think I'll get back on topic... Iraq is no threat to the U.S. nor is any middle eastern country for that matter... and Mexico isn't a threat either....the threat of nuclear war is a moot point in devloping countries so far and as for the immigration... well .....

I live in Canada... I immigrated here... it was easy and I did so properly... I am legally allowed to be here... the problem with the states and immigration is it is too difficult to immigrate and when people do immigrate illegally they aren't encouraged to find work legally and aren't encouraged to assimilate into society....

I have a good friend from Mexico here in Toronto... this city is extremely diverse... and he is here legally... and guess what? ... he speaks damn near perfect English... because he was allowed to come here legally and encouraged to assimilate into this society...

I come from Florida... and down there everything is in English and Spanish? why leatrn the language of the land when your native tongue is readily available? why apply for citizenship when you can work anyplace without proper documents?

 

[bimmrboy]

I come from Florida... and down there everything is in English and Spanish? why leatrn the language of the land when your native tongue is readily available? why apply for citizenship when you can work anyplace without proper documents?

Immigration isn't a problem, that's waht this country was founded on. ILLEGAL immigration is a problem. I agree with you, the lack of control that the USA has on the problem just makes things worse. A stand needs to be taken to make work NOT readily available without proper documentation as well as in many other areas. The kicker is, these things need to be enforced, and due to public outrage, they won't. Hence the downward spiral continues.

 

[texpatriot]

Mexico is clearly the most threatening.

If relations between the United States and Mexico collapsed tomorrow, the U.S. would already have in it's midst an illegal population that currently is larger than the entire United States Military.

The United States has been under attack from Mexico for years, and as the article points out Corporate America has been one of many "Americans" who not only turned a blind eye to it, but has encouraged it:

Imagine the chutzpah of saying about these illegal aliens, "These good hardworking people broke the law, but, gee, they need the jobs and your benefits so they can have a good life like you." In effect, the ruling elite is saying: "Feel guilty, you comfortable, racist Americans!" There are no provisions in any of the bills that passed the Senate in the last session that do anything but open our borders even more widely. (e.g. S.2611)

 

[69Strat]

there are lots of nice mexicans just trying to improve lives and others who are bad people-just like whites or balcks

I'm all for people trying to improve their lives, but many Mexicans don't want to speak English. Is that acceptable?

 

[69Strat]

You sir, hit the nail on the head.The last thing we need to hear is a chorus from the Eurotrash on this manner.

Does that include the Eurotrash serving in Afghanistan? Would it also extend to the Eurotrash that provided a military contingent to secure the evacuation of Americans on the Ivory Coast?