Is Canada better than the United States?

[Musik2400]

We may not have many universities on that list, but we have the highest percentage of post secondary graduates of any contry in the world. I'll take that as a decent consollation prize thanks.

And you guys can take credit for the internet... but we'll take credit for the lightbulb, the electric car heater, garbage bags, gramophone, pacemaker, Insulin, kerosene, snowblower (surprise?), snowmobile (again...), Television, as well as the telephone... and your zippers.

I <3 Canada.

 

[amerikkka]

I have to admit, I believe Canada is vastly superior to the United States... unless you are really concerned about having a strong army... which right now is all the United States really has going for itself.

We have healthcare, the Canadian Charter of human rights, the economic depression never hit Canada as hard as it did the US, Canada has better standing in world relations, gay marriage all across the country, and we don't have Sarah Palin.

the canadian military might be a lot smaller than the amercican's, but they're far better trained, and widely respected by other countries. the americans will just sling a gun over anyone's back.

 

[Chadknowslaw]

Canada and the US are as different as North Dakota and South Dakota.

Fly over the border and look down -- there is no line! It's imaginary!

 

[resonance]

We have healthcare,

And 82% GDP of government debt in addition to thousands of illegal, unlicensed private clinics...

the Canadian Charter of human rights, the economic depression never hit Canada as hard as it did the US,

Which are both marginally worthwhile...

Canada has better standing in world relations,

Which is untrue. Canada has better world public relations. Canada doesn't have great world government relations.

Frankly, Canada is kind of a doormat and no one cares what Canade thinks. -.-

Ranking of World Universities
1 Harvard University *
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California Berkeley
5 Cornell University
6 University of Michigan
7 University of Minnesota
8 University of Washington
9 University of Wisconsin Madison
10 University of Texas Austin

I have no idea what list you're using. Most people use THES, QS, or ARWU rankings.

I have 3 lists from 2010 in tabs at the moment (including a list from USA Today) and all three lists put Cambridge on top.

THES and QS are both based in Britain and are highly biased toward British universities. Their methodology is highly reliant on British peer review. In terms of actual scientific contributions, such as Nobel prizes in recent years, Cambridge is actually really subpar.

ARWU is the most respected internationally ranking source and it places Cambridge at rank 5.
http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

the canadian military might be a lot smaller than the amercican's, but they're far better trained, and widely respected by other countries. the americans will just sling a gun over anyone's back.

Um... just no. Better trained? Widely respected? The Canadian military is a joke.

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I think a lot of people on JUB are biased toward the US and support Canada because they're liberal. -.-

 

[resonance]

And you guys can take credit for the internet... but we'll take credit for the lightbulb, the electric car heater, garbage bags, gramophone, pacemaker, Insulin, kerosene, snowblower (surprise?), snowmobile (again...), Television, as well as the telephone... and your zippers.

What propaganda have you been fed?

I can spot some inaccuracies right on the spot. Despite the flurry of contested inventors, I can confidently say Canada did not invent the lightbulb. As for the telephone, the first patent was granted in the US and Canada only had a limited role. The television and insulin were invented in Germany.

I question whether Canada invented any of the things on your list or whether you just made it up to troll.

Edit: Some light research confirms at least 90% of the list is BS. A bulk of the list was actually invented in the US.

 

[Corny]

 

[gsdx]

I can confidently say Canada did not invent the lightbulb. As for the telephone, the first patent was granted in the US and Canada only had a limited role. The television and insulin were invented in Germany.

I question whether Canada invented any of the things on your list or whether you just made it up to troll.

He is not a troll, and you cannot confidently say that Canada did not invent the lightbulb. It was invented here in Canada and the rights were sold to Thomas Edison who took all the credit.

And where did you get the information that insulin was invented in Germany? I've not been able to find any references except for this, which is a 'discovery' and not an 'invention':

During the nineteenth century, observations of patients who died of diabetes often showed that the pancreas was damaged. In 1869, a German medical student, Paul Langerhans, found that within the pancreatic tissue that produces digestive juices there were clusters of cells whose function was unknown. Some of these cells were eventually shown to be the insulin-producing beta cells. Later, in honor of the person who discovered them, the cell clusters were named the islets of Langerhans.

In 1889 in Germany, physiologist Oskar Minkowski and physician Joseph von Mering, showed that if the pancreas was removed from a dog, the animal got diabetes. But if the duct through which the pancreatic juices flow to the intestine was ligated - surgically tied off so the juices couldn't reach the intestine - the dog developed minor digestive problems but no diabetes. So it seemed that the pancreas must have at least two functions:

* To produce digestive juices
* To produce a substance that regulates the sugar glucose

This hypothetical internal secretion was the key. If a substance could actually be isolated, the mystery of diabetes would be solved. Progress, however, was slow.

Doctors already knew what insulin was. They linked insulin to diabetes, but it took 30 years and some Canadian scientists to figure out how to create it.

And get your facts straight about the telephone. Bell and a man called Elisha Gray were working on the telephone at the same time. Bell happened to get his invention patented first which makes him the accepted inventor of the telephone. Gray tried to prove that Bell had stolen his invention, but failed.

Try doing a bit of homework first.

 

[resonance]

I did my homework. You're using circumstantial evidence to try and prove Canada invented a bunch of stuff that no one acknowledges.

Edit:
lightbulb: britain
commercial lightbulb: US
telephone: both bell and gray are US (bell did some work in canada.)
zipper: US
and list goes on...

 

[gsdx]

I did my homework. You're using circumstantial evidence to try and prove Canada invented a bunch of stuff that no one acknowledges.

How can you call it 'circumstantial'? It's factual and historical. It's recorded for all to see.

How about serving up some of your non-circumstantial evidence for us to see instead of just flapping your gums? Go ahead. I can wait.

 

[barnbuddy]

since living in Winnipeg is different than living in Montreal,

and living in Kansas City is different than living in New York City

and all of the above are far different than say Jidda Saudi Arabia or Bejing,

well, can any of you express the different pronunciations of "silly waste of time?"

 

[gsdx]

since living in Winnipeg is different than living in Montreal,

and living in Kansas City is different than living in New York City

and all of the above are far different than say Jidda Saudi Arabia or Bejing,

Yes, they are, but you must remember that the original question was meant to help the original poster to decide if he might like to come live here in Canada. If it helps him (or anyone else) to make a decision, then it has not been a waste of time.

 

[evanrick]

i think Canada is obsessed with jealous admiration but i dont know why.

and Americans have delusions of grandeur aka "the American dream"

the American dream is pretty much dead, and I don't know if this country can survive being so diverse much longer.

America is falling apart at the seams, overridden with corruption and paralysis.

Federalism is certainly showing its age, our president and congress are becoming less relevant all the time. Unable to cope with significant challenges even with massive, overwhelming public support.

Millions are falling into poverty, our bridges and roads are crumbling. We have no long term infrastructure, uneducated masses, illegal immigration is straining an already broken health care system.

Our free market system has pretty much been turned into a winner-take all environment, where each special interest is fighting reform to keep their outdated business models profitable.

Corporations routinely siphon taxpayer dollars to their own interests, and spend that money to lobby for more money and more protections of law against the people they harm.

but there is still freedom of speech, and i don't know how much longer we will have that now that businesses have been declared individuals.

 

[gsdx]

i think Canada is obsessed with jealous admiration but i dont know why.

It is not jealous admiration. It is pride in our achievements which are usually overshadowed by our neighbours to the south.

 

[KTheLibra]

So, um, how hard would it be to find a job in Social Work in Canada?

 

[gsdx]

^ I don't know. I have never sought employment in the social services.

 

[vulgar_newcomer]

My Daddy is bigger than your Daddy and can beat your Daddy up, so there!
Oh yeah my Daddy makes more money then your Daddy and is smarter so he can buy a faster car to get away from your dumb Daddy.
...and so it goes..................

 

[boxerdudeuk]

What? We share the same celebrities and pop culture.

That is really all we have in common with Americans. We're more secular, political system is different, weather for the most part is different, foreign relations are completely different, rights and freedoms are different, domestic issues are different, social attitudes are different, banking is different, immigration policies are different...the list goes on.

It's funny how Americans/Canadians are deemed so connected when in actuality we're quite different from one another. Remember Canadians, you aren't Americans...the United States of America is really a foreign country, folks.

I agree wih this wholeheartedly.

Also, Canada's economic horizon is far, far healthier than the US. We don't have a high per capital debt, and the fundamentals of our economy are very sound. Our banking system is revered around the world. The US is headed for a terrifying financial future.

 

[Purplebic]

Apparently we don't have a right to a lawyer during interrogation. (link)

I personally think the economy is shit here too. In the last two years i've worked 6 months, though the government insists on welcoming over 100K new arrivals every year, even during the recession.

There's plenty wrong up here.

 

[gsdx]

but there is still freedom of speech, and i don't know how much longer we will have that now that businesses have been declared individuals.

I believe that was the single most profound Supreme Court decision in my lifetime

Does this mean that businesses are now protected under Freedom of Speech and can say what they heck they want? So that cupcake dude can tell gay people to go fuck themselves legally?

 

[gsdx]

No, you misunderstood the decision, what it was about, and its impact on American politics.

I didn't really misunderstand it. I've never heard of it.

But haven't large corporations been 'buying elections' in the States since forever?

We have different laws up here. There are campaign spending limits (amounts of money spent, say, on television promotions, touring, etc.) and, I believe, contribution limits. This gives the underdog parties a fighting chance in elections.

At one time, we were like the States in that we, too, had a two-party system (Whigs and Tories). There were other parties, but nobody heard from them because they didn't have the finances to crawl out from under the 2 big parties. All that is behind us now and we currently have 5 parties sitting in Parliament.