Is Gen. Mattis gay?

[nycguydowntown]

I believe he loves men---and who wouldn't want to be around hot Marines? lol---a few go to my gym and they are like perfect men---but I don't care if he loves men----I don't believe he's anti-gay or anti-woman as far as the military goes.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

Yes. But you wouldn't understand.

Mattis will be overseeing the Pentagon. And will be running a military that has a long and terrible history with LGBT...only under Obama have homos been able to openly serve.

Mattis also has opinions on the role of women in the military.

So yeah.

It matters.

Way more than your bizarre obsession with Chelsea Manning.

Thanks.

 

[Telstra]

What a great post rareboy.
Also America has a lot of influence in Australia.
That is why we always look at what's going on in America.

Even these three Australian "experts"/non expert lol, talk about Trump

 

[pat grimshaw]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis#Personal_life

But Heir, perhaps this man is celibate?

(I'd wager that half of JUB is celibate)

 

[Natello4]

Hope he took part in some steamy orgies with hungry passionate soldiers no matter what. That's all that matters.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Oh where would we all be without you to wag your finger and excoriate all of us when you are bored or in a dark mood.

It is more likely that it is just an irritant because your posts are not met with either conservative trolling or far left sycophancy.

Sometimes people below the 49th seem to forget that many 'foreigners' have ties and interests in the US, including friends and family and can't imagine why anyone would be interested in what is happening in DC because they have no interest in what is happening outside of their own country.

No, that's not it. The "interest" is far more than that. There is a strong theme among some Canadian posts on the forum that at once blares about Canadian independence historically and superiority culturally and governmentally. Yet at the same time, there is clearly a strain of "ownership" and preoccupation with all things American. The politics are unquestionably debated far in excess of the mention of domestic Canadian affairs.

The truth is, America is a behemoth financially, militarily, culturally, and globally. We become the subject of Hot Topics because our course in the world has great impact, for ill or good.

But the fact remains that foreign interests do not impact cabinet selections, especially NATO members. That's just more inflated self-importance. We all have political views. We all get to air them. And all our nations get to ignore those outside to opine away.

And of course, in this particular instance, it really was just you and Grimshaw spitting at one another again, which is the real sore spot here. Take your crappy feud somewhere else. It's marring the view in the non-CE&P forums.

 

[rareboy]

We all are quite aware you'd prefer the field clear for your own 'feuds' and condescending lectures in Hot Topics.

But interesting how it was you who elevated a straightforward response to Grimshaw's original post to the level of a high dudgeon sermon.

Maybe every once in awhile, you might consider not injecting yourself into every exchange.

 

[sixthson]

Rareboy, you really need to stop saying "all" when you can only speak for yourself.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Maybe every once in awhile, you might consider not injecting yourself into every exchange.

Your remedy moves the onus to the audience. The audience would prefer you not drag your petty fights into every thread on the forum, alleviating our need to ignore them. Just start a thread for your perennial duel with Pat and let those who want to read it follow you two there.

 

[rareboy]

Nonsense.

It is you who turned a simple response into some great event and the only reason that you did it is because you are pissed with something I've written so attacking me because I am responding to Grimshaw is just a proxy battleground.

Now calm your tits dear and pour yourself a stiff scotch. It is the weekend and you need to relax.

 

[sixthson]

Your remedy moves the onus to the audience. The audience would prefer you not drag your petty fights into every thread on the forum, alleviating our need to ignore them. Just start a thread for your perennial duel with Pat and let those who want to read it follow you two there.

Do you remember how Andreus and Kahil used to try to annoy everyone by non-stop threads vowing their love for each other, which included songs and poems? We know how that ended...they are both gone now.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Nonsense.

No, it really is your endless squabbling in every thread. In this case, the absurdity of the two of you arguing about a hypothetical about an American cabinet nominee when neither of you are even American and have any dog in the fight.

You two endlessly bicker across this forum, and it's tedious beyond belief. Black/white, hot/cold, right/left. None of us even have to read the posts, as it's a given that it's simply going to be the same old bitter catfight.

 

[rareboy]

Do you remember how Andreus and Kahil used to try to annoy everyone by non-stop threads vowing their love for each other, which included songs and poems? We know how that ended...they are both gone now.

Still here. Don't plan on dying soon.

 

[rareboy]

No, it really is your endless squabbling in every thread. In this case, the absurdity of the two of you arguing about a hypothetical about an American cabinet nominee when neither of you are even American and have any dog in the fight.

You two endlessly bicker across this forum, and it's tedious beyond belief. Black/white, hot/cold, right/left. None of us even have to read the posts, as it's a given that it's simply going to be the same old bitter catfight.

And this is where your arrogant insularity shows through.

Of course we have dogs in this fight. But you don't have a fucking clue.

My whole life has been largely defined and influenced by who the Americans decide should sit in the Oval office and who that person selects to head the military because the US just can't stay home. From Vietnam to the disastrous BushCo. debacle in Iraq and now even beyond....we are affected every fucking day by people like Trump and Mattis in the same way we have been by Nixon and Kissinger, by Bush and Cheney ad nauseum.

So stop pretending like what happens in the US just magically stops at the seacoast and the boarders.

We are all aware in Canuckistan that the Trump team may actually inflict incredible damage on our economy. And unlike BushCo., the next time the Us comes around to build a coalition to fight their war of adventure in the middle east...we are all quite aware of the spiteful reprisals that TrumpCo. could unleash.

Canadians are incredibly apprehensive right now because of the irrational and unpredictable man-baby that Americans have dumped on the world as the most powerful man on earth.

So don't fucking lecture me or anyone else who has experienced what the President of the United States can unleash on the rest of the planet

Particularly one who has decided that in order to keep his piss play tapes from being broadcast on E!, that he will be the bitch for the Russian strongman instead.

And as for Grimshaw, I will continue to respond to any post he makes in any thread he makes and if that doesn't suit you then take a fucking Xanax and lighten the fuck up.

 

[frankfrank]

I have no clue what your last line refers to (and I don't want to know, let's stay on topic) but I agree with everything else in this post.

If a man is gay and enforces or even introduces anti-gay measures, he's fair game to be outed.

If he does no harm, do no harm to him.

Among the very few non-Rareboy posts in this thread which make a LOT of sense.

Any gay person who is put into the position of making laws or policy which will affect large numbers of other people, and who uses that power to intentionally harm LGBT people, is a TRAITOR to at least 10% of those people under him/her.

But it being of interest to foreign citizens not resident in the U.S. seems bizarre, western democracies be damned.

We're just the next room over from the bar and RB and Grimshaw are tumbling through in their ongoing brawl.

Not only are we/they in adjacent rooms, but the noise and clamor in our room can make life a living hell for those in the room next door who must deal with it, and they're stuck with whatever happens. Figuratively if a Pentagon brawl breaks out and the guns come out in our room (e.g. "we" suddenly start dropping bombs somewhere - at a whole new level than what we've been doing with bombs and drones), Canada in the room next door is endangered by the crossfire.

some Canadian posts...there is clearly a strain of "ownership" and preoccupation with all things American. The politics are unquestionably debated far in excess of the mention of domestic Canadian affairs.

The truth is, America is a behemoth

It's marring the view in the non-CE&P forums.

I would be speaking out, too, if I was Canadian. (OH, PLEASE, IF THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE...that's my first wish when the genie comes out of the bottle that I happen to find.) Canada has all the potential to be harmed to the utmost by American decisions. Of course there is good reason to be concerned...or beyond concerned...about all of this.

the absurdity of the two of you arguing about a hypothetical about an American cabinet nominee when neither of you are even American and have any dog in the fight.

Australia probably doesn't have much of a dog in the fight - but Canada certainly does - due to proximity.

In some ways, the ENTIRE PLANET has a dog in the fight. He will head an agency which, since at least 1950, has had a long, strong, and rather malevolent history of starting new wars all over the world. There may have been good reason for Korea in that year, but what about Guatemala, Iran (overthrow of the Shah), Guatemala, Grenada (fast war), Cambodia and Laos (during the Vietnam War), Iraq (twice!), etc. not to mention covert commitments in other wars in many dozens of other countries?

For good measure, CIA involvement in other military actions in Nicaragua, Indonesia (the slaughter of Communists), etc.

What happens if Canada simply refuses to go along with some DEMANDS from the Grand Military Cabal of Trumpistan (a/k/a The Pentagon) - will the orange guy break diplomatic relations and go to war with them? The mind boggles.

Anyway, we're free to argue in here. Hot Topics isn't designated as a no-flame zone.

 

[NotHardUp1]

No. That doesn't stand the test of credibility. There are homophobes serving in all military ranks in all countries, but we're not debating them on JUB because America is the fodder of choice.

And the bar fight isn't the Pentagon, but RB and Pat, and endless.

Our military policy (were we discussing actual policy or proposed policy, but neither is the topic here) doesn't have spillover effects on Canada, not even to drive American gay soldiers there. That's simply overstatement. The thread was about Gen. Mattis' possible homosexuality, not about any policy positions. Everything after that was hypothetical stacked on hypothetical to allow Rareboy to get his petticoats aflitter with grandiose implications of a closeted general driving some horror as yet unnamed. Bother.

And while you're defending the right to argue in Hot Topics, remember that there is also an obligation not to carry fights from thread to thread and harass. Can you possibly argue that RB and Pat don't do that all day long? That's also in the Code of Conduct. It's also supposed to be a tenet to stay on topic. Bickering isn't that.

 

[NotHardUp1]

So don't fucking lecture me or anyone else who has experienced what the President of the United States can unleash on the rest of the planet.

As usual, you're spinning up on your hysteria, not the topic of the thread. Trump is not the topic. Mattis is. There is no premise under which his supposed homosexuality is leading America to invade Syria, burn Ottawa to the ground, or scuttle the maple syrup market. You beat the drum from corner to corner, but it still has nothing to do with this thread. You just get pissed when called out on it.

And you don't give the same attention to other governments in the forum, including your own. It suits your ego to criticize the U.S. from your armchair because it's the Hot Topic. It's not humanitarian concern or noble cause, just your pet peeve to rag the Yankees because of our position in the pecking order. It's petty.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Anyway, we're free to argue in here. Hot Topics isn't designated as a no-flame zone.

Gee, now you can be read by the Canadian with the big fonts. Nice job.

What happens if Canada simply refuses to go along with some DEMANDS from the Grand Military Cabal of Trumpistan (a/k/a The Pentagon) - will the orange guy break diplomatic relations and go to war with them? The mind boggles.

Another war with Canada? And I'm the one RB thinks needs a Xanax. Sheesh.

 

[pat grimshaw]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis#Personal_life

Dear OP, has this thread given you what you wanted yet?

 

[Telstra]

Rareboy, you really need to stop saying "all" when you can only speak for yourself.

well,
rare speaks for me and his posts are quite logical ...