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Is Hip Hop Dead?

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"Is Hip Hop Dead ?"

Well, hopefully.

Listen, I'm a fan of all musical forms, but 'Hip Hop' has always pissed me off...

There are countless 'real' musicians out there trying to make a living while there have been an elite few that would have us believe that that grabbing your dick and shouting 'put yours hands up' 40 times in a row is somehow 'music'.

It's not.

Rather, it's attitude with a studio supplied beat.

It pains me to think how many real musicians have fallen by the wayside to make way for this MTV-inspired nonsense.

In short, if it can't be expressed in sheet music, it's not really a song.

It's just Viacom raising an entire generation of musical idiots, seemingly incapable of independent thought.
 
I Love HipHop, I really stopped listening to the Mainstream hiphop years ago, except for Snoop, Dre, Pac, Rakim, and Nas, i buy all their new albums they put out.

But New Hiphop is complete and utter garbage, the mainstream hiphop i mean..Soulja boy killed it..
 
Yes, hip hop is dead. The shit they are producing nowadays is NOT hip hop and those who claim it is, are idiots.

that is all, go on...
 
marleyisalegend said:
Saying hip-hop is 90s makes it seem you're one of the ones who jumped on the train VERY late. Hip-hop goes WAAAAY back. It isn't at all dead, it's just underground. B-boys, tagging, the style, the culture, the ART, these are all easy to find if you know where to look.

The only people who complain about hip-hop are the ones who turn on the radio and MTV and BET. Go to a record shop, go to a spoken word cafe, go to an independent forum that's safe from "corporate" hip-hop and you'll find that it's alive and kicking.
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marleyisalegend said:
You can always find out how judgmental people are when you talk about hip-hop. Joshua, you REALLY surprised me. There are all sorts of music that isn't written on sheets. Tribal music, many jazz musicians laugh at the idea of sheet music and would argue that a real musician shouldn't NEED a piece of paper to tell them what to play.
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Same goes for rap.
 
Nacreous said:
Rap actually isn't to my taste either, but there is no way in Hell I would have the audacity to proclaim it somehow illegitimate as a form of expression.
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Not a big fan of rap myself but it this --

marleyisalegend said:
There is definitely a musicality to rapping that's very close to the intricacy of scatting jazz. Timing, phrasing, crescendos, decrescendos, portamentos, staccato, legato, rappers make use of all of these musical expressions when they're rapping and I'm sure that half the people who criticize it would be akin to a deer in headlights if asked to rhyme IN TIMING over a beat where the timing keeps changing.
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-- that captivates me.

Plus, rap, just like rock and roll (not the Jonas/Miley shit version) -- and I guess I can include hip hop -- once carried powerful messages through their beats. Such music shouldn't remain underground.
 
Hip hop is more than the shit you hear on MTV and BET. Like many other music style, it's been refined into pap suitable to be sold and marketed to the masses. Saying hip hop sucks because of Lil Wayne, Nelly, etc. is like saying pop music sucks because of Britney or rock sucks because of Nickelback.

There's lots of hip hop out there that's intelligent, astutely political and contains more than crotch grabbing. Not that crotch grabbing can't be hot.
 
Bad music seems to always be easily available in whatever genre. But good music sometimes takes a bit more work. About ten years ago, it seemed good hip-hop was readily available, but you had to dig for good rock. Now they seem to be reversed.

If you're waiting for music to come to you, you'll have your pick of a handful of songs/artists, and with any luck, a few might be good. Increase your odds - get proactive. Go searching.

* Ask your friends what they're enjoying.
* Go to a music store that sells a good deal of hip-hop, and ask for some recommendations.
* Sample things on iTunes.
* Go to a local hip-hop club and see what's being played there.
* Go on myspace and find some good local rappers. And don't tell me there are none in Oregon - if there's some in Colorado (and there are), there's some in Oregon. :)

Lex
 
Include me out. My knowledge of "modern hip-hop" is pretty minimal. I have a couple local guys I quite like, but I can hardly really discuss it at length.

Lex
 
Music is more than just pretty sounds. It's closely intertwined with culture and identity. In my experience, people don't like hip hop or country or classical or whatever, not because they can't find a piece of music that they like in that genre (or the mainstream representation of it) but because the genre is often culturally loaded.

I can't blame upper middle class middle aged white people for not finding common ground with blinged out thugs grabbing their crotches. Fortunately, if you dig you can often find good stuff that appeals to your sensibilities in almost any genre if you have an open mind.

I volunteered in college radio for about 4 years, where I had the opportunity to listen to a lot of good stuff of all genres as it came through those stations. During that time, I definitely changed my opinion about hip hop, country, reggae (I don't like most of it but I have found some good tracks still) and various sorts of ethnic/world music. Personally, the only genre I've never been able to appreciate is the Blues. I just can't stand it musically (I find it boring and repetitive), but I can accept that other people like it and that it's an important contribution to American musical culture. Maybe I just haven't found the right Blues record yet though.
 
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God,I hope so. LONG LIVE DISCO!:lol:
We live for the Thumpa Thumpa!
 
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