Is honesty REALLY the best policy??

[MrPerfectMan]

They say honesty is the best policy, so here is place to come if you want to say something that your normally wouldn't feel comfortable saying. Don't worry about being PC, just follow the rules of the forum. Nothing hateful or illegal!

Here's are a couple of personal examples:

1. I wish bicyclists weren't allowed on the roads.

2. As a kid/teen, I sometimes daydreamed about my parents divorcing.

3. Recently, I'm feeling a lot more desperate than I'd like to be when I watch porn, and I feel the actors are probably just as desperate.

All topics are up for discussion and clarification!

 

[-Kane-]

Well, The cultural norms of society has already answered that question. Even if honestly is the best policy, it isn't being employed by the masses. From the age of 4, human beings learn how to lie. And they also learn that lying requires less martyrdom.

 

[Vannie]

In my opinion,honesty is not always best policy. BTW....great thread

 

[Sausy]

It usually is, but there are circumstances and even everyday situations when it would hurt more than help. Nonetheless, essentially honesty to oneself and others is the best rule at least as a guideline.

 

[rareboy]

Short answer. No.

 

[palbert]

Depends on who the MOD is.

 

[Vannie]

I have a family member who is very honest when it comes to food and homemade baked goods.I remember one Christmas I had made her some peanut butter fudge(I knew she was a peanut butter freak)(And...put the fudge on a expensive "Fenton" plate as part of the gift,that she had admired)She brought it back to me,(kept the plate,and put the un-wanted fudge in a zip bag ) and told me it was dry and didn't have enough peanut butter flavor.Fucking bitch!

 

[luckynumbah7]

. Don't worry about being PC, just follow the rules of the forum. Nothing hateful or illegal!

- I've always thought the people whining about pc went something like this

"But, anyway you look at it, it's better HE should suffer. After all, it was me or him, and obviously it couldn't be me. It's a simple matter of logic. I'm not like other people, I can't stand pain, it hurts me!" ~Daffy Duck, while he flails the air at nothing.

-I think drivers should be fined for failing to stop at crosswalks, not using the turn signal appropriately and for driving and parking in the bike lanes. Do it three times and you get a suspended licence, three months for the first suspension. Two more and it gets taken away for a decade or so. If that doesn't work, they shouldn't be driving in the first place since they can't obey the rules of the road. And my favorite, don't slowly turn and inch out in front of a blind person crossing the street. For those not in the know, in winter the cane comes tipped with metal spikes next to the rolling ball for ice use. A judicious wack in front while you're crawling along at a snail's speed in the hopes that no one has noticed your error will either score your paintjob or put a slow leak in your tire. I'm generally a nice-ish person but after so many of those, let in the winter coming forward, and I will probably cave to temptation. They never would've been in the position if they were where they were supposed to be.
I'v known too many people being hit and nicked by shitheads doing that let's-pretend'-I'm-sneaky-turn where I, me and mine have right of way. I've another set of make-believe rules for bikes, but they're not complete yet.

-K puts too much cinnamon in his cookies.

There, I said it.

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[The Fly]

Honesty is ALWAYS the best policy....................though I may be fibbin' a bit.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Not on JUB, NO.

Especially if you like Royalty.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I have a family member who is very honest when it comes to food and homemade baked goods.I remember one Christmas I had made her some peanut butter fudge(I knew she was a peanut butter freak)(And...put the fudge on a expensive "Fenton" plate as part of the gift,that she had admired)She brought it back to me,(kept the plate,and put the un-wanted fudge in a zip bag ) and told me it was dry and didn't have enough peanut butter flavor.Fucking bitch!

I would've kept the fudge, sliced it and used it as little building blocks for a gingerbread-esque house in miniature. Decorate it with a few candies, smidge of icing, perhaps make a little sign above the door saying "Fudge Shoppe". Then polyurethane the fucker and give it to her next year as her gift. She can put it on the mantel.

Then again, I get creative in my giving.

 

[nyctopgam]

There's honesty, lies and tact.

 

[MrPerfectMan]

There's honesty, lies and tact.

I'm not a fan of lying normally, but I know someone who overuses tactfulness so much, his "diplomacy" verges on rudeness. He could hate your guts and never tell you, he'll just come up with some underhanded insult that almost sounds like a compliment. I would just prefer he says what he really thinks sometimes.

Then on the other hand I've had people say what they think, and see it as overacting. Like someone asked me what was different about a hybrid car, and I said what I thought (which was incorrect) and a mutual friend was there, and acted like I had stabbed him in the back, and ran over his kitten. I was like "Ok, I was wrong, but it's not the end of the world!" It was just a total overreaction to me!

 

[luckynumbah7]

There's honesty, lies and tact.

Tact can be changing the subject to something else entirely or a little white lie that says "What a gorgeous tie" or by omission. "What a gorgous suit!......while "Fucking eyesore of a tie" gets muttered by your brain. Tact as an action can includes lies, but it doesn't have to unless you're asked a direct question. And even then, there's loopholes.

 

[nyctopgam]

I'm not a fan of lying normally, but I know someone who overuses tactfulness so much, his "diplomacy" verges on rudeness. He could hate your guts and never tell you

Is your friend Asian? Some Asian cultures have developed this into a fine art.

One can overdo anything. That's why we have expressions like "honest to a fault".

Talleyrand once said, If a diplomat says yes, he means maybe; if he says maybe, he means no; if he says no, he is not a diplomat. [He continued, If a lady says no, she means maybe; if she says maybe, she means yes; if she says yes, she is not a lady,]

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I am finding myself dissapointed in people in general, not because I have some high personal expectations of my own of them. Just general courtesy that is not given.

People expect you to listen to their bullshit but dont want to hear yours.

I have a friend that hasnt talked to me since april and I have known him for over 10 years. There was no fallout or anything just no talking and I got no response from him when I said happy birthday to him. Of course it bothers me a little bit but not as much as people might suspect. If he really doesnt speak to me again for whatever reason it really wouldnt affect me all that much to the point where id fight for the relationship.

 

[MrPerfectMan]

Is your friend Asian? Some Asian cultures have developed this into a fine art.

No but's he has political aspirations and has wanted to be a lawyer, so I've told him he's be VERY good at either. lol

 

[luckynumbah7]

I'm not a fan of lying normally, but I know someone who overuses tactfulness so much, his "diplomacy" verges on rudeness. He could hate your guts and never tell you, he'll just come up with some underhanded insult that almost sounds like a compliment. I would just prefer he says what he really thinks sometimes.

He is saying what he really thinks. He's just not saying it in your 'language', so to speak. It almost sounds like a compliment because it's prettily worded with several vowels, a couple of consonants and a smile while speaking so the tone has a round shape to it, sound friendly. Though probably not by inflection. Anyway, he's speaking right-out, in my opinion. I'd suggest replying to one of his stated opinions but it would depend on whether it was a battle of wits or a battle of ego/whose better. If I were you and it was the first selection; Run. You might be able to hold your own in the second, so long as you can keep your voice moderated and low.

-Or you could just ask what the fuck his problem is, but I can guarantee he'll answer "nothing" with a slight smile.

 

[cgymike]

Screw honesty when your hubbie is found with some so called bi guy!

 

[MrPerfectMan]

Screw honesty when your hubbie is found with some so called bi guy!

That's sad, but why do act like bi = straight?