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Is Islam a danger for Western civilization?

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YES, Islam is a threat to any and all societies it touches. Muslim people are not a threat, but that religion of hate and murder is, regardless of the practitioners race.
 
Quite a bit of Western civilization came from the Islamic world. Algebra, for starters.

I don't like fundamentalist intolerant Islam. But there are other Islamic traditions. It's almost amusing that the country where people are freest to practice their brand of Islam is the USA with its constitutional guarantee of religious freedom.

Islam doesn't frighten me. And perhaps you need to meet some Muslims if it bothers you.
 
Fundamentalism is the threat to civilization.
 
I find it disturbing that people think that it's possible to make overarching statements that characterize a very diverse population of well over a billion people. Islam is hardly the monolithic religion/practice/culture that so many people believe it to be.
 
LilBit said:
I find it disturbing that people think that it's possible to make overarching statements that characterize a very diverse population of well over a billion people. Islam is hardly the monolithic religion/practice/culture that so many people believe it to be.
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I'm sure that's what people said about fascism... in the beginning.
 
Godwin's Law!!! There, I said it already. Stupid theory really.
 
#s 23, 24 and 25, yep.

I don't think vilifying traditions upfront and in total is an effective strategy for curing people of their fundamentalism.
 
Well, I wouldn't say that, but that Godwin's Law theory is bullshit.
 
LilBit said:
I find it disturbing that people think that it's possible to make overarching statements that characterize a very diverse population of well over a billion people. Islam is hardly the monolithic religion/practice/culture that so many people believe it to be.
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And the Voice of Reason speaks.
 
MoufOfKhaos said:
How exactly is it unfair to address the usage of the word oriental in his preemptive strike to not be seen as coming from a place steeped in racial agenda? He said he didn't want to be seen as racist, I commented on a term that is seen as such without negating the rest of his post.

As far as the French and British, yes, we've seen how dealing with the problem can go - with the French banning the burqa, or at least attempting to(I'm sure you know the real answer to that, seeing as you live there) - and frankly, that's not the answer to the "problem".
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You're confused about the British meaning of these terms. Don't feel bad - I'm part of the Commonwealth and I had no idea until my 30's why Brits were calling people from India or Pakistan "Asian," because to me "Asian" always meant Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodian, or Filipino. So basically English-speaking geographers do not agree.

In Canada, language has changed over the years, and we'd now refer to someone from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka as South Asian, and someone from China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, etc. as East Asian.
 
borg69unimatrix said:
I find the very thought of a "Muslim Rapper" a bit more than I can wrap my head around.

Wouldn't rapping be emulating a culture they despise?
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I can't understand the lyrics. But I can hear the word September.

The ritual killing occurs at 4.28.
 
Please look at this...what is fundamentalism?

Answer it for yourself.

Impetuous lot you are....
 
^Mike, before i would have been rather narky, if you have no idea what fundamentalism is/means, then use a dictionary, please!
 
Holy flamingos. Only in fox news' dreams.

1. There are more Muslims in Asian countries than the middle east so your claim that Asians aren't a threat doesn't make sense.

2. Western civilisation has been and is still the biggest threat to other cultures, and its gotten preeeetttyy serious since the enlightenment age. Are you forgetting about the development of the 'new world' which displaced an entire culture of people? Let alone other indigenous populations uprooted and forced to learn, work and live under a western system by Australia, Canada and various European nations.

United state's foreign policy in the middle-east and south america were appauling during the80s and 90s. Remember when the Reagan admin sponsored terrorists to overthrow the sandinistas? Or when the UN imposed a trade embargo against Iraq in the early 90s leading to malnourishment and death of young Islamic children? Or the west's support of Israel against palesteine? Or when the US placed Military troops onto the Islamic holy lands of Mecca and Medina? Or when the British empire did pretty much everything to so many innocent cultures before the US became a unipolar super power?

I'm more worried about how the west's foreign policy will next threaten another nations sovereignty than what the 'big scary' Muslims are doing.
 
kallipolis said:
To the best of my knowledge this has never occurred....but, I am happy to be corrected with irrefutable proof.

Please cite a credible source to support your assertion.
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If you really cared that much you'd look it up yourself. I'm not going through journal articles because I'm done with studying for the day. My information is from an article titled 'blowback'. Here's more info from wiki though it doesnt explicitly state that the troops were actually in Mecca which the blowback article does.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_Saudi_Arabia
 
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