Is it half full?

[Vannie]

^One was me, Vannie.

The inner Glaswegian, was just too strong to do battle with...........

……….

 

[Alistair]

Breaking the glass and killing someone?

Don't you know that's how Avicii killed himself? No respect

 

[Cormac135]

Mostly good, i'm too lazy at the minute to try and make it better.

 

[peeonme]

Um, you left out barbecue. It's ok. You didn't know.

Both of my parents grew up without running water, indoor plumbing or even toilet paper. They saw the advent of the tractor, electricity
and other things that amazed them.
I really believe that we have lost touch with just how hard life can be.

 

[purina]

Someone else got it all and didn't even think of washing dirty glass when they were done

 

[bankside]

Both of my parents grew up without running water, indoor plumbing or even toilet paper. They saw the advent of the tractor, electricity
and other things that amazed them.
I really believe that we have lost touch with just how hard life can be.

This is true.

It has all kinds of amazing consequences.

One of them:

• Some people are still more in touch with how hard life can be.
• Sometimes their bar for happiness and contentment is lower, because they know better than most that they don’t have it that bad
• As a result, some of them get less. More for me, and hey, he’s still happy enough with what he’s got, so what’s the problem?
• Lather, rince, repeat, and after a couple of generations you have billionaires with gold yachts and working people who can barely scrape by in two jobs

This is why I’m so opposed to the “scrimp our way to prosperity” mentality. No, we don’t need cheaper houses, or cheaper food, or cheaper cities, or cheaper health care, or cheaper education. We need to spend lots of good cold hard cash on those things so that we get good stuff, not bargain basement crap. And for that, we need raises.

 

[tarallucci]

It's a mixed bag, but more good than bad.

 

[Rickrock]

Life has its ups and downs, but it is more up.

 

[peeonme]

This is true.

It has all kinds of amazing consequences.

One of them:

• Some people are still more in touch with how hard life can be.
• Sometimes their bar for happiness and contentment is lower, because they know better than most that they don’t have it that bad
• As a result, some of them get less. More for me, and hey, he’s still happy enough with what he’s got, so what’s the problem?
• Lather, rince, repeat, and after a couple of generations you have billionaires with gold yachts and working people who can barely scrape by in two jobs

This is why I’m so opposed to the “scrimp our way to prosperity” mentality. No, we don’t need cheaper houses, or cheaper food, or cheaper cities, or cheaper health care, or cheaper education. We need to spend lots of good cold hard cash on those things so that we get good stuff, not bargain basement crap. And for that, we need raises.

I have found that the things which I enjoy the most are free. I love a full moon, a clear night when the stars are so bright. A field freshly covered in snow, without a mark or blemish. Trees are beautiful, I love looking at the canopy that is formed by their leaves. I love how the air smells after a spring rain. I marvel at the sun, it's 93 million miles from me, but I feel its' heat on my face. The best things are free.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Both of my parents grew up without running water, indoor plumbing or even toilet paper. They saw the advent of the tractor, electricity
and other things that amazed them.
I really believe that we have lost touch with just how hard life can be.

Modern 21st century life if full of fake obstacles. One half of the population is completely stressed out because they're overworked, the other half can never find enough employment. Building high quality housing is cheaper than ever, but a house is typically much too expensive for someone with a normal salary. We have wonderful cars, but the roads are inadequate and paid parking is almost everywhere so almost all progress that is made evaporates immediately.

 

[TickTockMan]

I voted "Life isn't good, but it's not awful."

I look back on what my life was before I got hurt and know I will never be at that station of life again. Chances are I'll never visit Vegas or Disneyland again or be able to save up for the DSLR camera I would like for a hobby. I will probably never be able to afford paying off my credit cards like I hoped, but I do have a roof over my head and for the most part I have enough to eat and to do that keeps me busy. Once my housing situation gets solved my biggest problem will be chronic pain again and not being able to control all of my body anymore. I am lonely, but no one wanted me before I was disabled. I get even less interest from people now. I have accepted I am just waiting to die. It seems every time I try to better myself, I mess up my body some more.

Your life obviously isn't great or you wouldn't be circle the bowl endlessly here on JUB.

Couldn't this be said for all us regulars? It kind of answers the poll question as well.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Both of my parents grew up without running water, indoor plumbing or even toilet paper. They saw the advent of the tractor, electricity
and other things that amazed them.
I really believe that we have lost touch with just how hard life can be.

I think that's the point of my thread. I grew up using outhouses. I grew up using newspaper and magazines as toilet paper. I grew up with a garden that was kept by hoe and one-wheel push plow. I grew up in a house with one bulb hanging by a bulb in the center of the ceiling of most room without even a wall switch.

But even those people had good barbecue.

Breaking the glass and killing someone?

Don't you know that's how Avicii killed himself? No respect

Sorry. The suicidal houseflipping remodelling thread is two doors down.

You're most welcome.

No, not a problem at all.

Have a nice day.

Couldn't this be said for all us regulars? It kind of answers the poll question as well.

Not. At. All.

Most of us are here because we enjoy the company of gay men, banter, pop culture, Brassica obsession, international community, political argument, friendship, online play, and some, pornography.

Pierrsero doesn't seem to fit any of those categories. He seems to sit around reading threads, waiting for his opportunity to post inject some unrelated raving anti-American diatribe that is pecked out in a drunken stupor from the looks of the garbled words and misspellings. Either that, or Sloppy lost interest in the Gullah voice. It's always the same song. C'mon, you know the words. I've been to every country on Earth except x and y, and America is nothing but a homophobic, racist, misogynist, transphobic, ultraconservative, murdering, blah-blah-blah, that has no redeeming value whatsoever and I'll never return there, never eat potatoes/go hungry again. I'm the only gay in the village.

No. I don't believe that can be said for all us regulars. I don't believe any of us even view Russia or China or North Korea or Venezuela or even Belgium in such an unfair light. And I would hope that if we did, we'd leave, pull up our big boy britches, sober up, and get on with enjoying life, the alleged reason for emigrating.

Yeah, that's what I would say.

 

[TickTockMan]

Not. At. All.

Most of us are here because we enjoy the company of gay men, banter, pop culture, Brassica obsession, international community, political argument, friendship, online play, and some, pornography.

Pierrsero doesn't seem to fit any of those categories. He seems to sit around reading threads, waiting for his opportunity to post inject some unrelated raving anti-American diatribe that is pecked out in a drunken stupor from the looks of the garbled words and misspellings. Either that, or Sloppy lost interest in the Gullah voice. It's always the same song. C'mon, you know the words. I've been to every country on Earth except x and y, and America is nothing but a homophobic, racist, misogynist, transphobic, ultraconservative, murdering, blah-blah-blah, that has no redeeming value whatsoever and I'll never return there, never eat potatoes/go hungry again. I'm the only gay in the village.

No. I don't believe that can be said for all us regulars. I don't believe any of us even view Russia or China or North Korea or Venezuela or even Belgium in such an unfair light. And I would hope that if we did, we'd leave, pull up our big boy britches, sober up, and get on with enjoying life, the alleged reason for emigrating.

Yeah, that's what I would say.

It just seems to me that if we had everything we needed in life we would spend more time in the real world living it. Maybe I am just too pessimistic these days. And it is not like it has to be a big thing. It could just be a lack of queer friends. I am not saying it as a put down to any of us.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I don't know about you, but I spend plenty of time "in the world."

I attended a Pride Week bowling night on Wednesday, met knew people, bowled about a 150 average.

I took a friend to lunch Friday.

I made devilled eggs and wrapped mozzarella in prosciutto and took to a game night at another friend's last night.

I bought a love seat at a thrift store yesterday for $59.

I filled my bird feeders daily, mowed my propity, cut weeds, watched a documentary on frogs, and another on Alabama's barbecue places.

All that and I went to work all week.

That's the real world. It's a mix of work, online, friends, meetings, and paying bills. I don't just live online.

If I've said it once, I've said it many times. Join Meetup.com. Go meet gay people. If there aren't the groups you want on Meetup, form them.

 

[zoltanspawn]

I think a lot of people think suffering is wonderful because they can't emotionally cope with the fact that it isn't.

Which is often fine.

But a coping mechanism isn't a description of reality.

 

[peeonme]

I believe that in the case of my parents and others from those days, that they didn't have the feeling of entitlement that seems to stalk
the souls of men today.
So, no pity parties. They saw some with polio, some with TB, whooping cough, measles, just to name a few things that destroyed life and felt fortunate to be able to milk a cow before walking a few miles to get to school.

I remember in '69 or '70 my bosses Cadillac was in the shop and he asked me for a ride. I had taken some heat from family members for driving a 62 ford falcon, so I was apologetic to my boss about my car. He smiled and told me that 'second class riding beats first class walking'.

What made this country great was a positive 'I can do it' attitude. What started the downward spiral was the 'poor me' it just ain't fair crowd.

 

[tarallucci]

I think that's the point of my thread. I grew up using outhouses. I grew up using newspaper and magazines as toilet paper. I grew up with a garden that was kept by hoe and one-wheel push plow. I grew up in a house with one bulb hanging by a bulb in the center of the ceiling of most room without even a wall switch.

I don't like the competition and the comparisons. I could make examples of similar struggles I've experienced and that people experience today worse than those. Then what about people who have lived before your parents, those even before them and further back? What am I supposed to say to young people when I'll be your age?

 

[NotHardUp1]

I don't like the competition and the comparisons. I could make examples of similar struggles I've experienced and that people experience today worse than those. Then what about people who have lived before your parents, those even before them and further back? What am I supposed to say to young people when I'll be your age?

It's not a competition. It's an appeal. Don't let poverty make you aim low. America still have many examples of people starting poor and ending up in a comfortable life, one earned by hard work. For those who have lived before, they knew how hard work was. Their efforts built my country.

 

[oakpope]

For me, the liquid is bitter, as currently I can't enjoy anything and can't concentrate more than 10 minutes on anything, even "enjoyable" pleasure
I'm very glad, way more people can enjoy all that the world can provide.

 

[bankside]

I think a lot of people think suffering is wonderful because they can't emotionally cope with the fact that it isn't.

That's it folks!