Is it Wrong?

[Alpha1851]

Ah, but that's not the problem, Alpha. In most cases, they know the wife is not the bitch. On some level, they know that wanting to take him away from the wife really makes them the shitheads, so while they might blame her, she's just a barrier to what they want.

Again, pigs.

Okay. So just admit to being a pig. Why can't they do that?

Look, I'm personally not a nice person. I admit that. So why can't they just be upfront about it. That I can dig. The bullshit drives me nuts.

 

[Absolut]

And Abs, you'll never see any of my goods. Hats off to the other female JUBBERS who bared it all. I'm going to pass though. I'm a career gal for one. And my mother would kill me if she ever saw them. Those things tend to haunt a person. Yeah, I'll pass. Righty and lefty thank you for asking them to make an appearance though.

Pffft.

Whatever.

Send me the goods in private, then.

One that I recall was on top of a fish tank, and the other was...well, just "supporting" JUB.



I ain't scrrd!

 

[StlKj]

Stacy, what you're experiencing is what anyone would experience in the inner sanctum. You get access to us in a way that most people don't, which means you get to see the good and the bad. You get to be a part, but you're always going to also be apart. That's the blessing/curse of being in that position.

Honestly, I often feel the same way when I'm in a group of all straight guys. Sports watching, tit-loving, man-up straight guys--I am a part of them, but I'll never fit exactly.

So, Alpha, while I might want to nail half the lawyers in your firm, I would most likely end up pretty uncomfortable hanging out with them if they're stereotypical "guys."

 

[Alpha1851]

One that I recall was on top of a fish tank, and the other was...well, just "supporting" JUB.

Supporting JUB--That's a good one!

 

[StlKj]

Okay. So just admit to being a pig. Why can't they do that?

Look, I'm personally not a nice person. I admit that. So why can't they just be upfront about it. That I can dig. The bullshit drives me nuts.

The short dissatisfying answer?

We just don't build men that way in our society. It might be getting better, with young people being a little more savvy these days, but who knows?

Back when I was growing up, men sort of did what I joked with Stacy about just a few posts ago--they would grab their balls and just put it out there like it is. But that was also because they saw themselves as the top of the food chain. As women took their rightful place right next to them, and as PC behavior became more the norm, that attitude went more underground.

Doesn't mean it went away, however.

 

[Alpha1851]

So, Alpha, while I might want to nail half the lawyers in your firm, I would most likely end up pretty uncomfortable hanging out with them if they're stereotypical "guys."

I'm a judicial clerk. I try cases too, but it's in another state.

I didn't mean to paint my guys in a bad light. I love 'em. I kick their asses when they're playing Tarzan. They listen. We get along great together. In my opinion, there really is no such thing as the stereotypical male or female anymore. We're all a little of both. We've blended genders. And you'd fit in just fine. I'd slap them upside the head if they were rude.

Speaking of nailing lawyers, you should totally bag one. Generally, they're fantastic in bed. It's the competitive nature thing. And suits are so yummy!

I didn't mean to whine about the pretty girlie thing either. There are some drawbacks AND some pluses to being a woman just as there are to being a man.

I don't know. I'm picking a jury tomorrow and the partner was like, "Okay, don't forget that you are more likable to male jurors than female jurors. It might work best to keep as many men as possible on there. Women don't like you bc you're strong and pretty ." It just pissed me off. I told him. But, he's right. And I want to win. But I'd like to think that I'm intelligent enough, skilled enough, and savvy enough to win w/ any jury pool. I hate to think I'm relying on my boobs, face, and hair to save the day.

 

[Absolut]

Supporting JUB--That's a good one!

In more ways than one.

OK peeps. I've already hijacked Stacy's thread enough. I should know better.

Twas fun though. Especially when Alpha, who is a demon in the sack posts pictures of her goodies.

 

[StlKj]

Example of men being pigs: I went out and drug up a video for Abs to show him DC's naked butt, and he didn't even thank me.

 

[Absolut]

Example of men being pigs: I went out and drug up a video for Abs to show him DC's naked butt, and he didn't even thank me.

He did though. He posted his own butt. He just forgot to keep it posted long enough for you to see it

PWNED!!!

 

[StlKj]

One of the reasons I stick around here and have so much admiration for some many JUBbers is because the handful of us girls who have chosen to stick around have been allowed to roam free in your inner sanctum. And I promise you that is not something I take lightly.

It is also one of the reasons I stopped complaining about the influx of vaginas are gross threads. I am in the locker room and I have to deal with the locker room talk.

What saddens me more than anything, though, is how you treat each other. Women get bitchy and competitive but men just hate more than I have ever seen.

And putting it that way puts things in a better perspective so I thank you for that. I forgot that there are some things as a "visitor" that I have to deal with.

Ah, but while that saddens you, consider this. Men will often just call each other fuck-wits and then move on. Hell, they might beat each other physically, then agree to leave each other alone afterwards. They might even become friends.

But women? Women will often freeze each other out of social circles, pretend friendship and stab each other in the backs, and destroy a woman while holding a grudge forever. And if they fight physically? They always go for the kill, and will take out anyone who tries to stop them.

I'm lucky enough to be in the inner sanctum with a lot of women, and I discovered that the whole "girl power/sisterhood" idea is nice in principle, but can be hella tricky in practice.

 

[StlKj]

PWNED!!!

I wasn't PWNED by that one.

You didn't post your butt as a thank you card, Martha Stewart.

You posted it for Stacy in a desperate attempt to distract her from you hijacking her thread!

 

[Absolut]

You posted it for Stacy in a desperate attempt to distract her from you hijacking her thread!

This is true.

On all accounts.

And, it worked.

 

[Alpha1851]

I'm lucky enough to be in the inner sanctum with a lot of women, and I discovered that the whole "girl power/sisterhood" idea is nice in principle, but can be hella tricky in practice.

Maybe you just hang around bitchy women. I've never felt that way w/ my female friends. It was never that way in my sorority. It's not how the women treat each other in my life now. Maybe your female friends are just insecure or something? I think it's odd. They'd get more out of their friendships if they uplifted and supported one another. Where on earth does anyone find the time and energy to act like that?

My male friends on the other hand, they act just like you're bitchy women at times. I'm telling ya, men and women aren't that different.

 

[StlKj]

I'm a judicial clerk. I try cases too, but it's in another state.

I didn't mean to paint my guys in a bad light. I love 'em. I kick their asses when they're playing Tarzan. They listen. We get along great together. In my opinion, there really is no such thing as the stereotypical male or female anymore. We're all a little of both. We've blended genders. And you'd fit in just fine. I'd slap them upside the head if they were rude.

Speaking of nailing lawyers, you should totally bag one. Generally, they're fantastic in bed. It's the competitive nature thing. And suits are so yummy!

I didn't mean to whine about the pretty girlie thing either. There are some drawbacks AND some pluses to being a woman just as there are to being a man.

I don't know. I'm picking a jury tomorrow and the partner was like, "Okay, don't forget that you are more likable to male jurors than female jurors. It might work best to keep as many men as possible on there. Women don't like you bc you're strong and pretty ." It just pissed me off. I told him. But, he's right. And I want to win. But I'd like to think that I'm intelligent enough, skilled enough, and savvy enough to win w/ any jury pool. I hate to think I'm relying on my boobs, face, and hair to save the day.

I think you might be missing something, Alpha. While you're a good looking woman, I think other women probably don't warm to you as much because of something else--you're a good looking woman who can hang with the guys. You're an inner sanctum kind of woman too, and there's no greater threat to a lot of women. Strong women who men enjoy hanging with are often hated on--it's kind of a "chicks' versus "broads" kind of thing, if you'll permit me to distill it a little.

Give me a broad any day.

 

[StlKj]

Maybe you just hang around bitchy women. I've never felt that way w/ my female friends. It was never that way in my sorority. It's not how the women treat each other in my life now. Maybe your female friends are just insecure or something? I think it's odd. They'd get more out of their friendships if they uplifted and supported one another. Where on earth does anyone find the time and energy to act like that?

My male friends on the other hand, they act just like you're bitchy women at times. I'm telling ya, men and women aren't that different.

LOL Actually, all of my female friends are the kind who get along really well with men, so have at times taken heat for not playing in the sisterhood sandbox.

And I don't feel all women are that way at all--I do see a lot of wonderful bonds between many of them. Hell, I'm around hundreds of them a day, so I see a lot of different kinds of interactions.

My point to Stacy wasn't that women are worse than men, but that they're not all that different if she's feeling like we guys mistreat each other on here. Which pretty much agrees with your last sentence.

 

[StlKj]

This is one of my major problems.

On two levels.

On the one level, women hate on me because I can hold a conversation with a man about any topic without a problem.

On another level, I become "one of the guys."

Frustrating is putting it mildly

And something I'd like to point out, the women here are not very unlike many of the men here. And the women here are not like the women you know outside of here in some ways. That is not to say you don't have a point, but I can tell you that I have had strong words with two of the women here both of whom posted in this thread and we have not had any problems smoothing that stuff out.

I think that logical minds prevail over gender in the long run.

And I do honestly understand what you are saying. And I am trying to learn to deal with how it all works. I don't like it but I am dealing with it anyway.

Two of the snarliest little scrapes i've had on here were with two very cynical male posters. I made the effort to reach out to both of them, and both were very warm in repairing any rifts. I've come to appreciate and enjoy them both, and at least one of them seems to be enjoying my posts as well.

There's hope for everyone.

 

[Alpha1851]

I consume 30 cans of cola a day. I have about a $8 a day habit. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[StlKj]

And something I'd like to point out, the women here are not very unlike many of the men here in the fact that we enjoy being "pigs" just as much as ya'll. And the women here are not like the women you know outside of here in some ways. That is not to say you don't have a point, but I can tell you that I have had strong words with two of the women here both of whom posted in this thread and we have not had any problems smoothing that stuff out.

And perhaps the fact that you all have that ability to hang is what makes it more possible for you to smooth that stuff out.

I think the flip side of the loneliness one can often feel when one can hang in another group without completely fitting in is that you also grow stronger in the ability to adapt. It can be frustrating, but it also hopefully makes one more well-rounded to be a part of such different experiences.

 

[StlKj]

I consume 30 cans of cola a day. I have about a $8 a day habit. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Hostess is my god.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[Alpha1851]

How do you stay skinny?

That's amazing. I had to give up soda to lose weight. I used to miss it but I got over it

I consume around 4,000-5,000 calories a day. I'm 5'6 and weight around 100 lbs. I look like a malnourished kid. It sucks.

My whole fam is thin. I've been to the doc and there's nothing wrong w/ me. I'm just lucky as he put it. I wanted to tell him to go to hell. I mean, can a girl get some steroids or something? Let's help this skinny bitch out.

I guess the grass is always greener.

I want more coke, but Jas has cut me off. I didn't realize I was drinking that much until we did our recycling. Oops!

Wow, I feel better after getting that off my chest. I wonder if this is what therapy feels like.

My name's Alpha and I'm addicted to cola.