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is my friend gay and closeted?

so nachocheez a mind fuck can only be allowed if you let it in, do that critical thinking and keep it out and realize the potential that could (could) occur but nahhhhhhhhhhh, need more for yourself. Do not deminish your ego by playing mind fuck with a ego dude who likes chicks and dudes noticing his beauty. In the end he gets the hard on and off and you get the rhinestones falling from the sky on a plastic beach (Gorillaz).
 
I'll invoke Lube's Law.

If you think he's gay, he's gay.
If you think he's interested, he's interested.

Lex
Yup. Totally.

Come out and find a nice loving openly gay boy. :kiss:
Definitely a smart move.

also we went to launch, he paid, and he couldnt look me in the eye during our lunchtime conversation, and was being all nervous and standoffish. maybe hes a closeted gay guy that doesnt know how to be in a relationship
Well that makes two of you. :-)
 
so nachocheez a mind fuck can only be allowed if you let it in, do that critical thinking and keep it out and realize the potential that could (could) occur but nahhhhhhhhhhh, need more for yourself. Do not deminish your ego by playing mind fuck with a ego dude who likes chicks and dudes noticing his beauty. In the end he gets the hard on and off and you get the rhinestones falling from the sky on a plastic beach (Gorillaz).
do you think he is straight then?
 
Ask him if he wants sex unless you enjoy being teased to death.
 
I haven't a clue, I think he is playing you though and you shouldn't be his puppet. He likely senses you are interested. A lot of guys like attention, they will say they are metrosexual or perhaps bi curious, maybe gay. I don't like being a puppet. It cost me dear in my younger day as you.

I had a straight friend very similar to what you describe. But he knew I was gay as I was open and I was about 22, he was a good friend. I was into him, but not as much as other guys because he would play like you describe so I tried to ignore it. He would say things like when we were drunk, you don't have to sleep on the floor get in bed but he always talked about pussy when sober.
I liked him alot, he was hot totally my type and sometime he would want to encourage putting on make up. I never wear ladies make up and never did, in bands I play in corpse pain but not drag ..LOL... not TV gay club shit. I don't know why he thought that was cool but maybe he dug it.
Finally one drunken night after we were in our late 20's and drunk he got the courage to ram his hard cock into my hand. It was awful and I lost a player friend. At the time it was awful but he had a nice cock, but it made me feel like shit, he didn't give a fuck he wanted his dick sucked. H
Fuck leave that to the older sex only gay animals from a different generation. Do you know after that night I never ever talked to him again.
Of course I moved from DC area to Florida but ..............if he was gay and he could be I would have loved to be with him, but not as he presented. I know from other friends he has been married 2 times.

Do not be a potsii...........thats all there are a shit load of fine guys who know who they are and you don't need the smell of rotten egg of your face and thats all that will be left if you can't talk straight up with him. ASK if you really want to know, have some respect he will play you and you will be the downer.
 
It really sounds like you both are waiting on the same thing. I do think that if you came out first he would totally use that to his advantage and play a different (more sinister) game with you. This dude sounds like he is controlling, manipulative,and (what I suspect is at the root of all this) insecure. Frankly, I think you play into it because you have the same issues. I'm not attacking you when I say that either.

Whether he is 'straight' or not isn't the major issue. Is he honest, trustworthy, and capable of being a good friend/person should be the question. If this is just about sex then it's a petty easy problem to solve. If you guys start talking again and he says all the provocative things, just simply turn them back on him under the guise of just fooling around. If he's genuinely straight those jokes will fade away in time. Just my two cents.
 
good advice guys. i am gonna cut him out totally. i think hes straight actually now that i think about it. he loves sports, and fishing. he also told me "i dont want to know what another man feels like", among other things. "i want you to put it in my butt" then, "i dont want to know what another man feels like". doesnt make any sense
 
He may be doing all this just for his own ego. Some straight guys like to know that a gay guy wants them. It give them more confidence with girls. But it stops there. He won't actually do anything with you. He just wants the ego boost.
 
He may be doing all this just for his own ego. Some straight guys like to know that a gay guy wants them. It give them more confidence with girls. But it stops there. He won't actually do anything with you. He just wants the ego boost.

well what about looking at me longingly and looking at my butt? he didnt know that i saw him, so he wasnt doing it on purpose
 
Not sure if your friend is gay. But I bet he does a better job making paragraphs than you do.
 
He may be doing all this just for his own ego. Some straight guys like to know that a gay guy wants them. It give them more confidence with girls. But it stops there. He won't actually do anything with you. He just wants the ego boost.

he will often stay stuff like "she totally wants me". a friend told me that in high school these 2 girls liked him but he didnt get anything going
 
also at this point i have the choice too totally cut him out of my life. i think i might. hes torturing me
 
he also said to me "i dont want you to get to attached to another dude"
 
It can go either way, but based on what you have posted thus far, you can't lose. On your former posts, you mentioned he is flirting. Based on what you posted, I believe you. He is. The latter posts say you don't want him to tease you and have agreed to cut him off. Maybe I skimmed too quickly, but I didn't see where you shared your feelings towards him. This is a win-win situation. Either flirt back and let him know you're gay. If he plays around, why can't you? If he is bothered and cuts YOU out, then you would be getting what you wanted anyway.
 
i think he already cut me off. pretty sure he did actually. i wonder why. my thought is that he didnt really like me. he said he was joking once before.
 
if he cut you out, then he cut you out and you should respect that. I agree with bw92116 sorta. It's not that he's doing this for his own ego, but maybe he was checking you to see if you're gay. He must know that he's good looking, so he was seeing if you were attracted to him, closeted guys are always the most timid because they dont know what other gay guys like.

My guess is he thought you were straight because you denied all his hitting on you. So he must've given up

So you could either lay it all out there and tell him you're gay, which could end with you two being together or him shutting you out even more because he really is straight and doesnt like you anymore. Or you could move on and find someone else whose not going to put you through all this stress and trouble

ball's in your court
 
If you want him in your life you could try asking him "Everthing alright? seems like you've been shutting me out lately, thought we were friends."
 
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