Is there a housing crisis in your area?

[NotHardUp1]

It seems things are bad all over.

There's not a single US state where a minimum wage worker can afford a 2-bedroom rental, a report says.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/us/minimum-wage-2-bedroom-trnd/index.html

Affordable housing is always under-supplied, but the statement in the CNN video is simply not true. I'm all for $15 minimum wage due to other reasons, but it's not because one cannot find 2 bedroom apartments under $700. Here is one I found in less than five minutes searching. It's $500 per month, but that still takes the most of the paycheck of someone taking home only $800 per month after taxes.

Still, one should assume a single mom won't be even trying renting alone on minimum wage, so a two-worker household is more likely for a two bedroom apartment.

 

[Vannie]

yes


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[TickTockMan]

Yesterday in the news two of Salem's largest apartment complexs evicted everyone to build newer, higher priced housing. Because of that Salem now will have hundreds more homeless (including kids), because it is taking months to find a new place. Surrounding towns are having the same issue. This came out of nowhere with no warning.



My brother's family just found a new place 30 minutes from Salem out in the country for $600 more a month than what they were paying. They are happy because most places was $800 or more a month.

 

[Kulindahr]

I revived this because there's a new housing crisis going on: in Oregon at least, where there is a moratorium on evictions during the Covi-19 situation, a new housing crisis is happening: since more renters aren't paying because they can't be evicted, when someone does move out of an apartment or even house landlords are just not renting to anyone but are keeping places empty. So we have a decreasing number of places available to people who actually could pay rent because landlords fear people will move in and just not pay.

And meanwhile homeless people have been chased out of the campgrounds they used to stay in, and are living in cars (some of which don't even run) on streets, where the police keep issuing tickets despite the fact that the "stay put" orders mean these people aren't supposed to change their locations!

I don't know about elsewhere, but it's getting ridiculous here.

 

[Latimer]

Southern California is way overbuilt at the upper end, with thousands of units unoccupied, way underbuilt at the lower end. The state and local authorities, and the regulations and fees they have imposed make it impossible to build housing inexpensively.

And when it comes to housing the increasing number of people living on our streets, the various players who make a living off of other people's misery exact their own added toll: the average cost to build a homeless unit in Los Angeles is over $500,000--higher than the median price of a house. It's even worse in San Francisco at over $700,000.

 

[Dominus]

Indy metropolitan area. I don't know if this is an indication of housing crisis. As soon as I list a rental unit I get about a dozen inquiries within minutes and by the next day I would have about a dozen applications. Some of my houses I have a lease signed for them even before the renos are finished. The prospective tenants keep insisting on signing the lease early so they don't lose the place despite my assurance that they have it.

I've been told by my tenants that there aren't many places available and if they are they are super expensive. I charge market prices.

 

[Latimer]

And when it comes to housing the increasing number of people living on our streets, the various players who make a living off of other people's misery exact their own added toll: the average cost to build a homeless unit in Los Angeles is over $500,000--higher than the median price of a house. It's even worse in San Francisco at over $700,000.

I just checked: the median sales price (not construction cost) of a condominium or townhouse in Los Angeles is about $430,000. The median sales price of a single-family house is about $530,000.

 

[Yooper]

Denver Metro average rent as of May is $1456 for a one bedroom and $1842 for a two bedroom. Boulder is even more at $1783 and $2091, respectively. The town I live in is rated a little less than average, primarily because a raft of new apartments (about 2500 units) have been completed within the past year.

There's a very large homeless population, estimates vary, and I would hazard a guess the numbers are artificially small.

In my town with a population of around 100,000, there was a count done a few weeks ago of people living in 'vehicles,' whether that means RV's, cars, or whatever. The official number was about 140 people, with some wiggle room--the local government thought they missed about half. A lot of us locals that observe these things think it is closer to about 1000 people.

Minimum wage is $12/hour IF someone works.

Yep. Housing crisis. For sure.

 

[TickTockMan]

I revived this because there's a new housing crisis going on: in Oregon at least, where there is a moratorium on evictions during the Covi-19 situation, a new housing crisis is happening: since more renters aren't paying because they can't be evicted, when someone does move out of an apartment or even house landlords are just not renting to anyone but are keeping places empty. So we have a decreasing number of places available to people who actually could pay rent because landlords fear people will move in and just not pay.

And meanwhile homeless people have been chased out of the campgrounds they used to stay in, and are living in cars (some of which don't even run) on streets, where the police keep issuing tickets despite the fact that the "stay put" orders mean these people aren't supposed to change their locations!

I don't know about elsewhere, but it's getting ridiculous here.

Yeah my area is way worse than when I made the thread. Everyone in power is just ignoring the issues. Some their only solution is to bus the homeless to other towns in other states. While ignoring some of those other towns and state are bussing their homeless to us. Some have even said just take the homeless to Keizer which it right nest to Salem as if the homeless just won't come back.

There was talk of building affordable apartments but they wanted to put them in a far out area and it will take years to build. Then COVID happened. Now they seem to be ignoring things even more.


As soon as rents and house payments are allowed to be collected I have a feeling homelessness is going to go sky high.

 

[USEDCAR]

New Jersey is the no 1 state in foreclosure way before the covid virus was created. We have high taxes and they take so much out of our checks for taxes. Most jobs pay 11-15 an hour and then a decent apartment costs 1k and up.

Buying a house is cheaper but the property taxes here will kill you.

 

[ass eater]

Yes, it's 1975 all over again!

 

[Kulindahr]

... the regulations and fees they have imposed make it impossible to build housing inexpensively.

I was one of a group who tried to get it through the thick skulls of "progressive" leaders that requiring every new house or apartment to have all the latest possible tech was not the way to "provide good housing for all" for this very reason. They really had no clue what costs were like for ordinary people who weren't earning $120k/yr (this was back in the 1990s).

 

[Kulindahr]

Yeah my area is way worse than when I made the thread. Everyone in power is just ignoring the issues. Some their only solution is to bus the homeless to other towns in other states. While ignoring some of those other towns and state are bussing their homeless to us. Some have even said just take the homeless to Keizer which it right nest to Salem as if the homeless just won't come back.

There was talk of building affordable apartments but they wanted to put them in a far out area and it will take years to build. Then COVID happened. Now they seem to be ignoring things even more.

To a large extent I think that "everyone in power" is ignoring the issue because they don't understand anything about it, and thinking is hard work! They don't understand how building codes always raise housing costs (even when they make codes apply to any house or apartment that is sold, so no one can sell a house without completely upgrading everything!), and haven't the slightest clue about what living on anything less than three times minimum wage is like. It's why I advocate that all elected officials and non-elected department heads should be required to spend two months each year living on minimum wage in the area for which they're responsible.

 

[ShadowCat]

First property taxes are exorbitantly high! Second all the pieces of shit are moving out of their neighborhoods and coming my was you have your ghetto stay the fuck in it! Don't be bringing that gun violence and drug paraphernalia this way we don't want that shit in out neighborhood!