Is there a point to life?

[BabiGayPimp]

Well, you can always die. But you have only one opportunity to stick around to witness the moment that your life's purpose, at last, reveals itself. Perhaps your sole pupose for being alive is to save the life of some unknown person in the year 2037. And that person may be the one who discovers a cure for cancer. You never know. If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.

 

[liam88]

Take this from someone who has attempted suicide twice (in a serious manner).

Is suicide bad?
No, I don't see a reason why.

If for every tinge of mirth, comes a tinge of grief, would suicide be justified?
I guess so. But quoting alpha "I'd hate to think I was reaching for neutral." The reason why some of us are happily living is because we would never expect life to just be neutral... Yes, there are some downs and troughs, but these downs and troughs often bring forth at least 2 folds of joy!

Some say they can never be rich, some say they can never find a loving partner, and some say that they just don't see the purpose in life.

To the first category,

"A group of rich men and a group of poor students wanted to travel from Toronto to Vancouver. The group of rich men decided to go with their respective jet planes, flaunting endlessly, feeling proud of the wealth they have. Among the rich men, chances are, only 1 would be proud, while the others dwell in envy or contempt. Even more likely, all would dwell in dissatisfaction as none were contented with their wealth.

The group of students however decided to take a road trip to vancouvre. Though tough and strenuous, all could enjoy the journey. Friendships get developed, memories get forged, and love gets felt.

It is so much more meaningful to attain happiness from a journey than from a particular object or material. Materials and objects can be stripped from you, but nobody, even God, can take away the happiness you have gained from a journey. "

To the second category,

You know that Cinderella story? The ending we all knew of wasn't really the happy ending. Let me continue the story. The prince's parents vehemently objected to the marriage due to her inferior background. Though the prince really loved Cinderella and was willing to give up all fortune for her. He abdicated and decided to live with Cinderella in squalor. Cinderella was of course used to this, but the Prince found it hard to get used to. Although he does not complain aloud, he disliked the stench in his house, the rats and the bland food. Cinderella would often feel like she has brought forth more misery than happiness to the prince. She then left the prince and went back to her Stepsisters, hoping that the Prince's parents would take him back. The Prince decided not to go back to his parents, and continued leaving in poverty in order to get used to it. He hoped that if he could show Cinderella that he can be happy living in poverty, Cinderella would come back. The Prince's parents saw that the Prince indeed was truly in love and did not just choose the beautiful Cinderella out of a whim. They decided to allow the prince to live in poverty while still providing him with love as good parents. Cinderella finally understood that The Prince would not be any happier with all the wealth if she were absent, and went back to the prince. From then on, the prince, cinderella, and the loving king and queen, lived happily ever after.

Those love stories that you see on the media, or those lovely couples you see hugging and kissing, you don't exactly see the whole story. True love forms when people share tears and laughter, when they provide emotional support, when they want each other to be happy, even if it means not possessing them. And most of us already have this kind of love, with our parents, and our friends... Perhaps one day, you'd find someone else too whom you'd share this love with, but for now, be grateful for the love with parents or friends, you already have.

To the third category

You would never find out if you die would you?

 

[LoveIsNow]

No, there isn't. That's what makes it so awesome.

 

[ixthrock]

there is no point to my life except for the one I inflict upon it.
when all meaning gets stripped from my life, it is incumbent upon me to forge a new meaning of it. it gets pretty hairy sometimes, and I get pretty self-righteous about it, like..."



so stfu..."

The point, i guess, to me, is to juggle everything that life throws at me and see how long I can keep it all up in the air. If I off myself, it just defeats the purpose of the whole game.

 

[Gin&Tonic]

I love your question... i think about death a lot. if i didn't have my family, i would most likely do something that would end my existence; but i live for them. I should live life for me - - but that's something i am working on.
i don't know if there is any point to life.
I hope that there is something after we die. I would love it if there is an afterlife.
And in regards to that boy who asked the dumb ass question if your post relates to your weight... fuck him. he is a jerk off.

 

[Gin&Tonic]

Answer my question first. On second thought, with that kind of an attitude, don't even bother.

god, yur a bitch.

 

[Ekim23]

Like I already said before

Stop bitching and complaining...

 

[TickTockMan]

1) Sorry Travisevian, I have been in a pissy mood for the last few years. And with people insinuating I am a child rapist in another of my threads, it didn’t help my mood. I am quite aware I am a fat ass, I get told every time I go where other queer people are, but no this was not about my weight.

2) Too Phierce; You say I post stuff like this quite a bit, show me. Not counting my “Within Death Lies Immortality” thread nothing I have wrote on here really even gets close. Even my “Within Death Lies Immortality” thread doesn’t, it was about a tattoo I am going to get.

3) This thread was questions. If I wanted to kill myself enough I would just blow my brains out - not post about it. I am not foolish enough to believe people give a damn. I know the world is full of apathy. Any more it is what makes it run.

4) Unclean; I know those were several different questions, I wrote them and put a question mark behind them. Too answer your question though logically everything has to have some point. If not why do anything?

5) Matter of The Splatter; I agree with what you wrote. A few on here remind me of the people they show on the news yelling at a bridge jumper to jump. Others almost just seem they want another post under their belt which would be fine, but they don’t come off as having read the thread. As for me saying I am not suicidal, that’s a gray area. I have wanted to be dead for years. I think of it all the time. I think it would be peaceful. In that time I have attempted suicide zero times. Because I see it as within a gray area, I use the word suicidal as both wanting to die and have attempted or have thought about attempting suicide as the same. I do know there is a difference though. I just get tired of proving it to others that seem to think anyone that has ever thought about death is suicidal.

42) I wondered if anyone’s inner nerd would reply with that.

43) I would have posted sooner, but my internet connection sucks right now.

44) I tend to write very literal. My main meaning is almost always exactly what I write. Because of my sense of humor though if you get subtle humor you may find my non-serious posts have two or more meanings. Sometimes it may be a joke anyone can get, but some of the time it is a joke for the few I talk to in PMs. As a clue though if I put on-topic or post in pretty much any of the other sub forums I am being literal with my writing.

45) I don’t have anything to write here, but I didn’t want to end with 44.

 

[TickTockMan]

Life Was So Much Easier Without Emotions

Pride, Guilt and Doing the Right Thing

My Family

Just to name a few. But that's what I'm talking about.

You ask questions and then you pull attitude when you don't like the answers.

I'm done trying. You don't want my help. I won't give it.

None of those have anything to do with suicide or the point of life. Its not my fault you assume too much and it is wrong. Those threads were about emotions in general or the shit I was dealing with at the time. Also this thread was not asking for help, just answers.

 

[TickTockMan]

I am a fat ass though. Its not a put down its the truth.

 

[RationalLunacy]

Why live it, its just going to end. Leaving religion out of it why is suicide bad? People say it gets better, but what if it doesn’t? Why not end it?

Why gamble? You know what you have here. The "other side" might suck rotten ass and you'd wish you were back.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Yes, there is:

Utter utter humiliation.

 

[rareboy]

I think that anyone who is having an existential crisis needs to get their meds checked and once you've done that, then look for others that want to live and help them.

Then you'll find purpose.

If you are in such a dark place that you can't imagine why humans should exist at all, then you should seek crisis intervention.

 

[TriBi]

^ Agreed.

...and, from a personal perspective, life is far too much fun to throw away - and the alternative is not in the least bit attractive (to me).

BTW - I have experienced depression - and it is not fun at all. But - I did come out of it - and even tho' I felt very down for a while I don't think I could have ever seriously contemplated suicide. That said, I did achieve an understanding of how people could begin to feel that level of hopelessness.

It is a hackneyed phrase - but it is very true:
"Suicide is a permanent solution to to temporary problem".

 

[metta]

1. You create your own point/meaning in life. Find something that you are passionate about and focus on that. That may involve taking your focus off yourself and focusing it on other people or other issues that may need more help than yourself.

2. This is obviously a cry for help. You really need professional counseling. You need to make the call. We cannot do it for you. The services are Free.

You need to call: 1-888-843-4564

http://www.glnh.org/hotline/index.html

3. Consider moving to a location with more sunlight.

4. Eat healthier

5. Join a gym and workout regularly. Include cardio: start with 15 minutes at a time and work yourself up to 40-60 minutes.

6. All people experience pain and suffering (aka dukkah). There is also wonderful beatuiful things to experience in life. Many of them are very simple...but still wonderful

 

[spooger]

You can't be disappointed with your life, and everything unless

- You are sick to death
- You are homeless
- Your are starving
- You live in a third world country


Millions of people arr dying everyday because they don't have food, they don't have a roof, they are sick...

so I guess Life doesnt suck that much for "Us"

OMG ... you touched my nerve!

i have worked as a medical volunteer in lower Mexico and Haiti for 30 years, and i've seen firsthand the misery you refer to....and it changed my life in very substantial ways ...

once i wake with a pulse and with breath in my lungs ... THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS ... most of us have no reference to the magnitude of problems most humas face simply with every day existence ... most of our problems are related to what happens in that "extra time" in our lives and relationships not concerned with the rigors of survival on this planet ...

and it is a GOOD THING that we in developed societies ... for the most part ... do not have those basic survival concerns ... but seeing that reality does change one's manner of thinking and priorities of "problem" solving

having said that, i wish in no way to diminish anyone's feelings or the problems they experience... but for me i have found that THE WAY TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF IS TO HELP OTHERS ... i think less of my own problems, accomplish good for someone else, and contribute to the benefit of humanity

i guess it is my own "point to life" ... and diminishes my own misery factor ...

 

[briefboy86]

Life is about the unknow and all what can come from it. you can reach neutral by meditating and becoming one with yourself.

 

[Ekim23]

spooger... That was my point exactly

 

[TickTockMan]

Everything has to have a point? Does it now?
Where is that written?

You are declaring an axiomatic proposition.
I suggest you re-consider your position.

Call it what you want, but if there was no reason to do something most would not do it. There is always a cause and effect.



As for the rest you guys, you should read all of the posts. This was never about me wanting to kill myself as I have said before. Those of you that can’t get that thought out your minds should try harder. I am not the lost soul you are wanting. As for those insinuating I turn to faith/religion/spirituality to help me through this I am one and atheist and two as I have said I would just do it.

It is quite funny even after I clarify what I mean people still tell me its about something else. (Odd how I can’t know what I meant, but others can.) I don’t expect any of you to care about me and I don’t want you too anyways. There is only two people on the site that I really talk to, but to be honest I have no emotional attachment to either. This thread was questions. You many made it about me having a crisis. I am not your project. I am not your good deed. Some of you seem offend that I don’t just give in and take you for your word. I prefer to make up my own mind, but even if I didn’t I can’t take your advice when it is advising me about something that is not going on.

I don’t know how to say it anymore plainly than that.

 

[Kurn]

There is no perdurant meaning maintainable by an individual and there is none maintainable by the mass. It is only in the tension between the two that there is any meaning at all.
The moral-ethical quality of charity must be present for there to be meaning; even for meanings that we don't like. If you are a feeling person, even if your feelings hurt, that means that there is an energy of charity there to interact with and to be interacted with.

Become strong by doing good and then don't let the fuggers get you down.