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On Topic Discussion It was a moment that stunned the world . . .

I lived In West Palm Beach, Florida in the late 1990's After being down there a year I saw on TV that the Shuttle was going to lift off at Midnight. 145 miles from West Palm. I went through my kitchen and garage 2 minutes after lift off opened the garage door and looked North not expecting to see a thing. All of a sudden what looked like the sun rising follwed by the sound I could not believe it lit the sky like day light. I had went through the garage embarrassed that some of my neighbors would get a laugh out of me waiting up to watch it. As soon as it was visible almost everyone on the block was out side applauding. If any of you get a chance to visit Cape Canaveral the tour is great. At the start they have two IMAX fills that will bklow you away then a bus take you to a hanger where a Saturn Rocket i laying on its side. You then go in a room where the news reports from back then tell you how the capsul is on the darks side.You move into this room and the see a model full size land etc. Worth it better than a ride at disney
 
Fortunately, for the most part, those who would venture out to colonize know the importance of being good stewards of limited resources. At least I hope they would.

Times are changing, albeit slowly.
 
We have to ask ourselves the question of priorities. Whether the moon race was worth it is a valid question if a moot point.

Learning about Mars has been advanced by the landings we have already made. The necessity of sending a human is a good question to raise.

More fundamentally, we should ask how realistic human colonization of space actually is. It is one thing to risk the lives of test pilots and astronauts for science and military objectives. It is another thing to imagine hundreds or thousands of colonists instantly snuffed out by a failure of an atmospheric generator or an electrical fire. The whole concept of a life envelope being required anywhere but Earth is a huge factor, and one we treat too casually after decades of watching fiction that takes it for granted in a future imagined time.

Then there is the ethical question of expanding to other orbs when we have not proven we can keep from ruining this one. Is it right to exploit other planets when we have refused to take stewardship of this one? I have to believe there is some degree of escapism in the lure of space, the idea that we can get a divorce from our first wife/planet and start over with a new and exciting mistress out there who is yet virginal.

You're scared of heights, aren't you?
 
...When Armstrong landed on the moon, she told us "I only thought that would be something I'd see in comic books". She passed away in 1972......I was always glad that she lived to see the moon landings.

My grandma is dieing to see the mars landings.
 
You're scared of heights, aren't you?

Maybe he just doesn't want to draw attention to us because he's afraid of being assimilated.

Interestingly, while I have a "great appreciation" for heights, Flying doesn't bother me at all.
The movies like "Tower Heist" with their sheer building side panoramic shots, on the other hand . . .
 
I watched it live on TV, but was too young to appreciate the significance until much later. I just thought it was super cool. My great uncle and the old local preacher always claimed it was fake. As a matter of fact, a lot of old folks from that time didn't think it was real. One woman claimed that you can't stand on the moon because you would slide off, and there wasn't room to stand on that little ball.
 
You're scared of heights, aren't you?

Maybe he just doesn't want to draw attention to us because he's afraid of being assimilated.

Interestingly, while I have a "great appreciation" for heights, Flying doesn't bother me at all.
The movies like "Tower Heist" with their sheer building side panoramic shots, on the other hand . . .

I've grown accustomed to his usually eternally optimistic Mary Sunshine outlook on life and hope for mankind, but lately he's been pissing on my shoe with a pessimism I could get from my mirror. ;)
 
It's been a particularly stressful couple of months, near and far.

We all have our off days - even the most ardent of optimists.

I look in the mirror, too.
 
One woman claimed that you can't stand on the moon because you would slide off, and there wasn't room to stand on that little ball.

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I've grown accustomed to his usually eternally optimistic Mary Sunshine outlook on life and hope for mankind, but lately he's been pissing on my shoe with a pessimism I could get from my mirror. ;)

I'm an optimistic guy but I still judge myself, mirror or not. It's more so realism and not pessimism ;)
 
Sadly, I predict mankind will never leave the planet for colonization anywhere. The danger is very real and the potential death is ever-present in space and the other planets.

Ugh. You are such a downer.
 
Why Mars? Because it is there, it is in our make up to explore. To climb mountains, dive deep, fly high and go to another planet.

We have come to accept the mundane, the common and the ordinary. Look at the medical advances that came from going to the moon, we had to innovate and find new ways. Mars would do the same, we need goals, dreams and visions.

As for colonization, that is another story. We don't live on the mountain tops, we just like to go there, it is in our blood.
 
"We choose to go to the moon, and do these other things. Not because they are easy. But because they are Hard!."

at 8:41 into the vid
 
Fun fact: The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from Earth at a rate of about 1.5" (ugh, 3.78 centimeters) per year. Make of that what you will.
 
"We choose to go to the moon, and do these other things. Not because they are easy. But because they are Hard!."

at 8:41 into the vid

JFK gave a lovely speech at Rice University that day, but we already had the technology. The idea really energized us, but the moon mission was really planned for propaganda - to beat the Russians. Payback time for Sputnik I. :(
 
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I am tired of this so-called moment that allegedly stunned the world.

Buzzer says things that happened before his lifetime are exponentially less important than things IN his lifetime. Paul Julius von Reuter said things which happen in a different time and place to him are exponentially less newsworthy. So there!
 
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