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It's Never Just HIV

OMG i LOVE this. I wish our school distracts in OK would allow our health dept educators to show that!

I would love to just be able to go in, small groups at a time, and answer questions about STDs. . . .since all i'll been doing for 2.5 months is reading about STDs (all STDs... every. single. freaking. STD.) and it's all I'll be reading for the next.... 2-3 months.

I'm a science major, did lots in human phys and anatomy... been thru all the STD education things that public schools provide. . . .and they are not even scraping the tip of the iceberg.

My only wish is that they also did one w/ it's not just HIV, it's also syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, or chlamydia with HIV. It's not just HIV, it might be HIV2 which doesn't show up on rapid testing, current drugs aren't helping, and you could go years w/o any help and finally be diagnosed w/ a CD4 count of 3% when you are in the hospital.

..... you know it's sad that all i think about is STDs. My poor partner has been traumatized. He's a nurse practioner, but never learned this much about STDs.
 
that is an amazing ad. it gets the point across very realistically
 
I guess it's good in a way.. people will be educated about the risks.

The bit about dementia and brain damage hiv is a bit of a downer though.. If you already have it. This might cause a few suicides for people who test positive.
 
vidarr said:
I guess it's good in a way.. people will be educated about the risks.

The bit about dementia and brain damage hiv is a bit of a downer though.. If you already have it. This might cause a few suicides for people who test positive.
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yes, it does put people at risk for depression and suicide; however, if they are in care, they should be getting help, and most case managers are excellent about getting the help their patients' need.

I think it's for the greater good. we aren't going to reduce the infection rate by giving the idea that if you take these pills, life will be okay. Sometimes it is, they go years w/o really any problems, sometimes developing none, then you have the other side where treatment is not helping.

sometimes a little fear and knowledge is a good thing. One thing i never expected when taking this job is realizing that so many people are being infected, many who I know. . . and it's pretty sad that my coworkers automatically assumed i was positive when they first met me. I wound up taking a rapid test to prove i was negative and that i'm here b/c of my passion for HIV education and prevention while being negative.
 
Personally, I think that a lot of the willingness to take unnecessary risks has to do with self esteem/self worth issues. Societies irrational fear and hate of gay people does not help the situation either.
 
Very effective. Despite all the rosy pictures painted about new meds and longer living, the fact remains HIV WILL kill you in the end.
At the end of the day though,it is still a personal choice whether or not to use a condom. It still amazes me though that in a non-committed relationship, people would still choose the latter.
 
willilikeit said:
Unfortunately these ads don't seem to be more powerful than the urge to fuck and suck dangerously.
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All of the U.S ads for STD prevention and teen pregnancy try to scare the hell out of people, and they never seem to work. In my opinion, the European ads that tell you sex is safe, fun and OKAY as long as you use protection and get tested are FAR better. . .and they're clearly working, since their rates of STD infection and teenage pregnancy are quite a bit lower than ours.


Food for thought.
 
The first one was really disturbing. I doubt I will watch the others.
 
I don't think these type of ads do much good, in fact they never did back when there was drivers ed in school or in drivers training forced upon you after you got so many tickets to retain your license. Those films always showed mangled up bodies the result of poor or wasted people driving.
The pictures of diseases related to smoking on cigarette packs I hear do nothing to deter smoking.
Gross shit just doesn't effect people that much in 2010, in fact horror movies thrive off the fact we love to see splattered organs and headless bodies.

You know what will work? Showing people the financial wrecking bomb that HIV will cause.
Those fucking wonder drugs before you get to the side effects cost about 20 K a yr in the USA, not any 3 or 400 a month as some TV spots have you believe for generic drugs in Africa . AZT the oldest drug and dangerous wholesales,...not retail for about $325 a month. Then the cost of the other drugs needed to help possible side effects and other illness, add those cost. This is not diabetes and constant lab work isn't like testing for sugar levels in a home kit, its $$$ lab work several times at least a yr if you're lucky. Who will pay if you don't qualify for whatever social programs are there unless you have health insurance through a employer? Do not count on the health dept.

With HIV you will be in big ass trouble if you think public assistance will be there with cutting edge drugs should you not have a good health insurance plan.
There are huge waiting list in states like Florida and South Carolina for ADAP. You will remain poor to qualify for those programs if you lose your health insurance, and you will stay poor and hope that you can find access to those drugs. Companies will not hire you if you could cause long term hardship either by missing work or costing there health plan a bunch of money even if you stay healthy.
A lot of people with HIV are in the lower income brackets and have not a clue what that drug cocktail is costing. They are used to Medicaid or a case manager finding it for them. Talk about the side effect physically and long term these HIV drugs to your kidneys and liver.....

They have no choice this like many diseases is very costly, and that shangri-la feeling should be shattered about the drugs being the wonder. they are certainly good but nothing is for free. Hit these ads about the cost of having HIV to your entire life, and that would be effective.

Talk the $$$ talk and not if you take these drugs you will be okay. These drugs all have long term patents and only the insured with HIV can get the best drugs unless your nearly ready to crap out. Trust me in Florida you are not going to get Isentress as a start up HIV drug. Merck's price assures that and its one of the best drugs but you got to have deep pockets to afford it.

Show the dudes with the fat redistribution called a hump-back due to taking the protease drugs long term and how disfiguring that is.
A guy I know nearly died with a brain problem and sadly it was discovered only then he had AIDS. He has made a remarkable comeback on something called Atripula and I hadn't seen him in a long time. I did last week. The guy was always small framed and 5'7" tall. When I saw him he was huge. He told me he has put on 55 lbs in 9 months and nothing about his diet has changed other than the HIV drug. I told him I bet its that HIV drug but there is little he can do because they won't switch him off it as his viral load is under control and he is on the dole without a way to pay for other medications or a new FDA drug just approved to fight this big hard lump of weight which is bringing him down mentally because of how he looks. Seriously he was very depressed and troubled over the rapid changes in his physical appearance and his gut felt like a hard tumor of fat not just from eating to many doughnuts. Show this side effect on a ad from the wonder drugs, but his viral load and T-cells are good he just looks like a little Humpty-dumpty and that may take him lower than AIDS for a long time. This is not weight that will come off by doing sit ups or hitting the gymn this HIV drug weight wrapped around muscle, its there forever as we know in 2010.
...and no matter how painful or tragic the brain illness due to AIDS was to him and others that care about him it is nothing that concerns him like having this new baby whale of 9months rapidly grow in his torso and wondering when it will stop growing and maybe the Ryan white act which is so strapped for funding now will allow the health dept to help him reduce it before he just doesn't leave the house anymore in total despair.
 
But we are chatting on a site where we see guys barebacking everyday.
The perception by young individuals is that sex without a condom is ok, because we see it all the time on Sean Cody or Randy Blue etc.

One of my friends is the lucky one - he contracted HIV when the treatment was up to scratch, and he is hopeful of living a few years more.
My other friends died to make him live.
 
Im old enough to just remeber the grim reaper serioes of ads that shocked everyone.

Dads a doc and apparantly was one of the first to see poz men when other docs turned them away as they didnt know how it was transmitted.

I think he has been traumatised by the number of deaths in his patients,many of whom became friends as they were in so regularly. Ive seen mum, his receptionist come home in tears several times i can remember when a patient she got to know, or his bf died in the 80's and 90's.

I can imagine how hard it would be not to be able to do a thing while someone died except maybe give them vitamin sdhots and painkillers at the end.
 
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