Its time to dump the Democratic Party, let Hillary Clinton burn it to the ground

[TX-Beau]

It's time people who aren't Democrats stop complaining because they don't get to tell the party what to do.

 

[offthewall14420]

Ben isn't gay.

He must be here to combat the homosexual agenda. A warrior of Gawd!

 

[TX-Beau]

He must be here to combat the homosexual agenda. A warrior of Gawd!

He's probably a plant, and not like a houseplant, or maybe exactly like a houseplant.

 

[hotatlboi]

The title of this thread should be ..........

It's time to hold the Democratic Party Establishment to a platform that provides for the 99%

That's what the party is supposed to be about - not protecting the current but forging the right future for so many people who have been left out

Evanrick - off the deep end bombs don't get it done and if you truly are a Bernie supporter not just a Hillary hater you'd know the difference between fair and reasonable Hillary/Dem Establishment criticism

and this

Finally some perspective. Thank you.

 

[evanrick]

Wow. so let me explain how voting for the war in Iraq does not give you foreign policy experience. neither does benghazi or pushing the invasion in libya. none of these things worked out for America, and its like saying john kerry had foreign policy experience for fighting in vietnam, he had just as bad judgement as hillary did on Iraq. Kerry lost because of his Iraq war vote. McCain lost because of his Iraq war vote, his Iraq war support and Palin.

The biggest issue with democrats is all here, they think Hillary has 'experience' when shes shown nothing but incompetence in foreign affairs. The only reason she seems "competent" is that shes Bill Clinton's wife and #2 shes never been held accountable, she was never held accountable for the things she said and did against Obama in 2008, where she attacked Obama's message of hope as 'unrealistic', sound familiar?

John McCain had the decency to stand up for Barack when people attacked him for seeming 'un-American', Hillary never.
people have been writing about Clinton's cynicism for 10+ years that Hillary plays off of democrats deep cynicism about their personal lives, the same people who voted for Clinton in 2008 didnt 'believe' then and they do not 'believe' now, they have no great aspirations, just a sense of helplessness that the Clintons enable.

In 2008, Barack Obama believed that Hillary was responsible for circulating emails that he is a Muslim. She accused Bernie of suggesting a primary challenge against Obama, what happened between 2008 when she undermined the president to 2012 where she was suddenly loyal, or was she a slimebag the whole time and was she being a slimebag for accusing Bernie for something she actually did? Slime. Bag.

im also amazed that people think that voting for Bernie is a vote for trump, if people support trump they vote for trump, then they vote for bernie, but they wont vote for hillary and neither will I.

 

[evanrick]

It's time people who aren't Democrats stop complaining because they don't get to tell the party what to do.

this. i love this idea. run bernie run. joe biden regrets not running, i think biden would have been honest about his iraq war vote and said he was wrong, hillary never talks about it like it never happened.
bernie will definitely regret not running as a 3rd party candidate.

 

[evanrick]

I hope you are right...I really do...but I won't believe it until I hear him actually do just that. I have never been confident that he will do this.

I don't trust his ego....and his penchant for absolutes suggest to me an OCD level of "principle".

we understand in Clinton-world being principled means your undeserving of serving in public office.

Bernie Sanders is the most liked person in congress, and Hillary Clinton is the 2nd most disliked person to ever run for president.

 

[offthewall14420]

Lol. Democrats like Bernie about as much as Republicans like Ted Cruz.

 

[eastofeden]

we understand in Clinton-world being principled means your undeserving of serving in public office.

Bernie Sanders is the most liked person in congress, and Hillary Clinton is the 2nd most disliked person to ever run for president.

Right...that is why almost every Democrat in Congress has endorsed Hillary Clinton...including the second most Liberal Senator and my favorite Senator....Barbara Boxer..

 

[BenDan]

Right...that is why almost every Democrat in Congress has endorsed Hillary Clinton...including the second most Liberal Senator and my favorite Senator....Barbara Boxer..

yeah well gay rights wasn't very popular

being pushed outside your comfort level is hard - Dem establishment types have an easy gig - they look great compared to Repubs

so instead of pushing for REAL change and helping people ......

they emulate Repubs - take contributions from big biz, set up the rules so that agents of change can't get past the bullshit

The Dem establishment are a bunch of lemmings

You think Liz Warren agrees with Hills on Wall St. and foreign policy ?

You think Joe Bide agrees with Hills or Bernie

save your "every Dem in Congress" for someone who doesn't know the deal

your liberalism is not real

 

[TX-Beau]

Oh fucking please, you don't get to decide who's liberalism is "real." You are supporting a man who has no chance of giving you any liberalism at all, maybe your liberalism is not real.

 

[eastofeden]

yeah well gay rights wasn't very popular

being pushed outside your comfort level is hard - Dem establishment types have an easy gig - they look great compared to Repubs

so instead of pushing for REAL change and helping people ......

they emulate Repubs - take contributions from big biz, set up the rules so that agents of change can't get past the bullshit

The Dem establishment are a bunch of lemmings

You think Liz Warren agrees with Hills on Wall St. and foreign policy ?

You think Joe Bide agrees with Hills or Bernie

save your "every Dem in Congress" for someone who doesn't know the deal

your liberalism is not real

The MOST LIBERAL SENATORS in the 113th Congress

http://thatsmycongress.com/senate/

Let's see....
Ron Wyden: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Barbara Boxer: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Richard Blumenthal: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Al Franken: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Patrick Leahy: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Jeff Merkley: ENDORSED BERNIE SANDERS

BTW...you may notice that Elizabeth Warren isn't in the MOST LIBERAL group! You also might notice that THE MOST LIBERAL SENATORS overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton

...and then the rest of them...uh....I guess they aren't "real Liberals" either..eh? Go ahead and define me or them or anyone who supports Hillary Clinton...it says a lot about your candidate....more than you know....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Oh yeah...I don't know what Joe Biden thinks..and neither do you. When he makes an endorsement... I will know. Period.

 

[BenDan]

The MOST LIBERAL SENATORS in the 113th Congress

http://thatsmycongress.com/senate/

Let's see....
Ron Wyden: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Barbara Boxer: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Richard Blumenthal: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Al Franken: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Patrick Leahy: ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON

Jeff Merkley: ENDORSED BERNIE SANDERS

BTW...you may notice that Elizabeth Warren isn't in the MOST LIBERAL group! You also might notice that THE MOST LIBERAL SENATORS overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton

...and then the rest of them...uh....I guess they aren't "real Liberals" either..eh? Go ahead and define me or them or anyone who supports Hillary Clinton...it says a lot about your candidate....more than you know....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Oh yeah...I don't know what Joe Biden thinks..and neither do you. When he makes an endorsement... I will know. Period.

You can label if you like

But EVERYONE knows that the Dem establishment which left to their own devices will do jack for the 99%

is not endorsing based on conscience or principles but on the marching orders provided to them

IF they were to endorse Bernie, President Clinton would fuck them

Bernie is the queer in the group - and getting treated as such

what's your excuse

 

[eastofeden]

You can label if you like

But EVERYONE knows that the Dem establishment which left to their own devices will do jack for the 99%

is not endorsing based on conscience or principles but on the marching orders provided to them

IF they were to endorse Bernie, President Clinton would fuck them

Bernie is the queer in the group - and getting treated as such

what's your excuse

YOU were the one who decided who was and wasn't liberal enough...

I would trust the people in the link who rate the Senators more than I trust you....or Bernie....

...and the endorsements speak for themselves.

They don't like Bernie as their candidate. They don't want Bernie as their candidate. The most Liberal Senators in the Senate support Hillary Clinton for a reason.

I support Hillary Clinton for many reasons.....

 

[Kabluey]

Well that didn't take long.
Thought you sounded like a tea party drinker in drag.
What else are you pretending to be?

 

[offthewall14420]

Bernie's revolution has quickly devolved into a temper-tantrum. That's how he'll be remembered. A carpet baggin' socialist/sore loser. Second rate at that.

Time to pull out when you're supporters become violent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-supporters-nevada.html?smid=tw-share&referer=

 

[eastofeden]

Bernie's revolution has quickly devolved into a temper-tantrum. That's how he'll be remembered. A carpet baggin' socialist/sore loser. Second rate at that.

Time to pull out when you're supporters become violent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-supporters-nevada.html?smid=tw-share&referer=

Yeah..threatening her kids and grandkids..death threats....

The ones here in California..they can go fuck themselves...seriously....they remind me of the Tea Party

 

[BenDan]

YOU were the one who decided who was and wasn't liberal enough...

I would trust the people in the link who rate the Senators more than I trust you....or Bernie....

...and the endorsements speak for themselves.

They don't like Bernie as their candidate. They don't want Bernie as their candidate. The most Liberal Senators in the Senate support Hillary Clinton for a reason.

I support Hillary Clinton for many reasons.....

Hillary wasn't for $15 minimum wage
Hillary voted for the war in Iraq
Hillary was the force behind our Libyan escapade which ended in civil war, increase of ISIS and the deaths of Embassy workers
Hillary is for NAFTA
Hillary takes ungodly sums of cash for speeches and campaign contributions from the very people who deny the 99% an honest living

yeah she's a liberal

or is she a moderate ?

what a joke

 

[eastofeden]

Hillary wasn't for $15 minimum wage
Hillary voted for the war in Iraq
Hillary was the force behind our Libyan escapade which ended in civil war, increase of ISIS and the deaths of Embassy workers
Hillary is for NAFTA
Hillary takes ungodly sums of cash for speeches and campaign contributions from the very people who deny the 99% an honest living

yeah she's a liberal

or is she a moderate ?

what a joke

You forgot Benghazi...and the emails.....

 

[BenDan]

You forgot Benghazi...and the emails.....

thanks for proving my point

maybe you should enlist when Hills gets us into another war

you're such a believer