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Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place for this but hey. I'm moving to Jakarta come January for a year and was wondering if anyone's been? I'll be teaching full-time but curious to know what the country is like. I've travelled a lot around Asia and lived in the Philippines for a while but never been to Indonesia. What's the best tourist attractions to go, food, health, people, all the usual stuff. Oh yes, and what's the gay scene like? Thanks everyone :)
 
@StarCrasher, yikes. That seems pretty hardcore. That article really makes you think. Guess I'll have to keep my love of guys to myself :(

@reone, I'll be teaching English as a foreign language. Can't wait :)
 
My brother-in-law currently lives in China, but may have to move to Indonesia next year as he's now the Asian-Pacific Director for his company. Rather than live in the expat gated community in Jakarta, he and my sister are going to live in Singapore, and he will spend a week in Jakarta each month - in between Australia, New Zealand, and China.

Apparently there are times when the security guards at the community gates won't let expats into the city due to potential problems.

I guess if you're going to be in the expat part you'll be fine. :)

However, my nephew has just applied to teach English out there too (maybe you got the job instead of him LOL) - and he's heard none of these kind of reports!
 
What is now Indonesia belonged to the Dutch for three and a half centuries.

Jakarta was built as "Batavia" (named after a tribe mentioned by an ancient Roman author) by the Dutch.

I don't even know where to begin to tell all the stories about everything that happened because of this.

Indonesia is also known as "The Emerald Girdle"...

 
What is now Indonesia belonged to the Dutch for three and a half centuries.

Jakarta was built as "Batavia" (named after a tribe mentioned by an ancient Roman author) by the Dutch.

I don't even know where to begin to tell all the stories about everything that happened because of this.


Don't forget Surabaya, Sukarno and Suharto.
 
Islamic country does not approve homosexual and even having oral or anal sex is consider illegal. I am not sure their gay scene is better if you stay low. Those people are quite homophobic. I am sure there's some gay bar around, you just need to ask the locals. Good luck!

By the way, I am Malaysian.
 
A friend lived before in Jakarta and loved it, not sure how into the gay life he was? But he had a great local BF.

You can always pop over to Bangkok for a weekend, not much on air asia, and great fun!
 
JA kar ta is on planet earth

got female ans male representataves of humans
but like many lands maybe be cover up in da goo

ans lot stuff

there go
 
@joswanprine, wow, thanks very much dude. That's really helpful. I'll try not to be like your Mr. Joshua and teach people how to pronounce :) the country sounds amazing. I gathered that it would be very different to our Western lifestyle so I'll keep everything you said in mind.
 
Very nice post joswanprince.
Is Freefall your boyfriend and why ? :)
 
Jos, you forgot 3,5 years whored by British Empire :lol: :p

Pretty much what Jos had mentioned. The gay society exists behind the screen; it is there but not visibly seen. You won't find too much problems here but beware that many people here have sex without the initiation of practicing safe sex, so you will have to be the one to do that all the time. Also, here homosexuals are closeted because of the thick religious aspects, so don't blabber it around :)

Jakarta itself is a rather nice city. Despite having luxurious towers and building other erected in the middle of garbage piles, it has many things to offer to you. From archaic things like museums, traditional art centres, and educational-theme parks, to modern things like luxurious up-to-date malls (there are MANY MANY of them EVERYWHERE) and theatres everywhere. The public transports are available (despite most of the vehicles are supposed to be recycled 15 years ago, no kidding :lol:) and it's easy to go anywhere. There are many food centres (albeit I don't recognise all of them) and the food is exotic. You just have to bear with the traffic jam, especially during work hours, because it's everywhere and it has been a part of Jakartanians :lol:

As for the people, just like what Jos said: Indonesians are kind of foreigner-curious, so when you arrive in Jakarta, people will stare at you, point at you, or even yell names at you (most of the time they don't mean anything rude, they're just being curious and want you attention). They also sometimes talk about you behind your back (the word 'Bule' is the key). Just say Hi or wave and most of the times you will be amused by our imperfect English :lol:

The weather is now unpredictable; it can rain in the morning and be very hot two hours later. My advice: wear thin clothes.

For the criminality rate...Jakarta is not a safe place. Every inch of the place, including malls, boutiques, 5-star hotels, and even crowdedly packed streets, are invaded by pickpockets, robbers, or tricksters, who won't hesitate to take your stuffs even when people are watching them. You are the only one who can protect yourself (not the cops; they won't give a damn unless you pay them large sums). The rule is just be careful and take your things tight (e.g. don't wear tight pants, always hold on to your backpack and dangle them on your chest, keep money in your pocket so you don't have to take your wallet out, etc). And when you eat something at the side of the street, it's better you pay first then eat rather than the other way around :)

And there are many beggars here, most of them are only deceiving you with their fake expressions and feigned handicaps. Ignore most of them.

So...when are you coming here? You can see me if you like to...and where are you teaching anyway? :D
 
I also live in Jakarta, and I think Joswan and Freefall have described it very well.

Some lecturers in my university are foreigners, and based on what they tell us in class, they basically find it very interesting to live here and enjoy it.

One thing that I think you should prepare is to learn some simple Indonesian words because people like taxi drivers, shopekeepers, waiters can't speak english well. Maybe you can start to learn numbers (for money) and say thank you :)
 
Jos, you forgot 3,5 years whored by British Empire :lol: :p

Pretty much what Jos had mentioned. The gay society exists behind the screen; it is there but not visibly seen. You won't find too much problems here but beware that many people here have sex without the initiation of practicing safe sex, so you will have to be the one to do that all the time. Also, here homosexuals are closeted because of the thick religious aspects, so don't blabber it around :)

Jakarta itself is a rather nice city. Despite having luxurious towers and building other erected in the middle of garbage piles, it has many things to offer to you. From archaic things like museums, traditional art centres, and educational-theme parks, to modern things like luxurious up-to-date malls (there are MANY MANY of them EVERYWHERE) and theatres everywhere. The public transports are available (despite most of the vehicles are supposed to be recycled 15 years ago, no kidding :lol:) and it's easy to go anywhere. There are many food centres (albeit I don't recognise all of them) and the food is exotic. You just have to bear with the traffic jam, especially during work hours, because it's everywhere and it has been a part of Jakartanians :lol:

As for the people, just like what Jos said: Indonesians are kind of foreigner-curious, so when you arrive in Jakarta, people will stare at you, point at you, or even yell names at you (most of the time they don't mean anything rude, they're just being curious and want you attention). They also sometimes talk about you behind your back (the word 'Bule' is the key). Just say Hi or wave and most of the times you will be amused by our imperfect English :lol:

The weather is now unpredictable; it can rain in the morning and be very hot two hours later. My advice: wear thin clothes.

For the criminality rate...Jakarta is not a safe place. Every inch of the place, including malls, boutiques, 5-star hotels, and even crowdedly packed streets, are invaded by pickpockets, robbers, or tricksters, who won't hesitate to take your stuffs even when people are watching them. You are the only one who can protect yourself (not the cops; they won't give a damn unless you pay them large sums). The rule is just be careful and take your things tight (e.g. don't wear tight pants, always hold on to your backpack and dangle them on your chest, keep money in your pocket so you don't have to take your wallet out, etc). And when you eat something at the side of the street, it's better you pay first then eat rather than the other way around :)

And there are many beggars here, most of them are only deceiving you with their fake expressions and feigned handicaps. Ignore most of them.

So...when are you coming here? You can see me if you like to...and where are you teaching anyway? :D

Malaysia is not much different from Indonesia. Pick pocket occurs very often, especially in the capital, even robbery rate is increasing nowadays. I advise not to give out money to those beggars, it is a well known fact that some of them are controlled by a syndicate. The money they begged will be given to their boss. The best you could do is offer them food.

Good luck mate! Educate our young minds there.
 
I was in Jakarta way back in 2002 and in 2003, but as a tourist and not for very long (around one week in total; rest of the time elsewhere in Indonesia). I liked it very much, though Jakarta is indeed a huge and a crowded city. Alot of traffic jam, huge malls, maybe things have changed? Never felt scary.

I would have no problems to spend a long time over there. Nice people, easy to make contact etc. Nice food, cheap (compared to Dutch standards). Its quite easy to pick up some simple words of Bahasa Indonesia. Be always very polite, esp to people older then you.

Q: "are you married?" (very common question to me, then around 46).

Me: 'belum' [not yet = very polite reply, & abit vague]. 'No' [rude reply].

Very easy to meet friendly guys who like to praktize their English. Easy to travel around on Java; i have been all over Java as well. Maybe now more guys who are able to speak English? Alot of gays in Yogya. Nice volcanoes.

Bonus for Dutch people: over 100 words in Bahasa Indonesia have Dutch roots.

Good luck.
 
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place for this but hey. I'm moving to Jakarta come January for a year and was wondering if anyone's been? I'll be teaching full-time but curious to know what the country is like. I've travelled a lot around Asia and lived in the Philippines for a while but never been to Indonesia. What's the best tourist attractions to go, food, health, people, all the usual stuff. Oh yes, and what's the gay scene like? Thanks everyone :)

The food is tasty from Chinese to hot local dishes. Most hostel got houseboys doing cleaning jobs but you can get them to bed. But their bodies are not well built.
To meet foreigners, they are either in youth hostels or international hotel bars
 
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