According to a lot of people here, James is half-way down the other side.
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And I hope there aren't any men who are in that age range who allow themselves to feel bad because of it.
I've always seen going "over the hill" as something that was determined by your looks and figure, not reaching a certain age range.
I mean, I know some guys in their late twenties who look beat, many of them simply from being big drinkers (even those that got their bodies back in better shape; their face never lost that "bloated, rough" texture). Some you would swear were over 40 just by looking at them.
And of course, some guys manage (usually through hard work) to keep themselves looking 25 when they're pushing mid-40s.
So when I use the phrase, it's when I'm talking about someone who's finally reached the point, no matter how old they are, that they've finally lost their shine.
I've never once used it based on age alone.
We don't allow ourselves to feel bad because of it. A lot of young guys here make us feel bad enough about it all by themselves. You rarely see the word 'old' in a post without seeing the words 'ugly' and 'fat' used in conjunction with it.

for what?In the Gay World I mean. Are guys who are 37 and older too old?
As opposed to going grocery shopping? Going to work? Your statements are quite vagueDo you still pay attention to them? Or should gay men who are this age just stay home?
He was never hot, but is he over the hill?I'm sure a lot of gay men (including myself) still think James Marsden is extremely hot.
They say the older you get, the faster the years go by!![]()
