Joe Scarborough reverses his stance on gun control

[rareboy]

So you know we love our Morning Joe up here in the frigid 'north' Canuckistan.

And today, he took me so by surprise that I've been pondering this throughout the day....

As he explains in an impassioned 10-minute monologue, he used to view the gun debate as a question of individual rights versus government control; post-Newtown, he considers it a matter of public safety.

Perhaps he can help create the balanced environment for talking about solutions that do not infringe on the enshrined rights, but recognize the disconnect between a 1789 technological realities and those of today.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/12/17/joe-scarborough-gun-control/

He left me going 'wow'. The guy gets it.

 

[JayHawk]

I was rather impressed myself. He will be ruthlessly excoriated by the rabid right.

 

[Kulindahr]

Marvelously without content except stirring emotional images. People will take it as an endorsement of authoritarianism and believe he wants all the rigorous limitations statists drool over.

The way forward is not to try to cripple the Second Amendment, but to use it.

 

[Telstra]

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I've watched the video.
Better than Obama's speech in Newtown.

 

[Kulindahr]

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I've watched the video.
Better than Obama's speech in Newtown.

That's something I didn't listen to because I knew it was going to be full of platitudes and short on reason.

 

[JayHawk]

That's something I didn't listen to because I knew it was going to be full of platitudes and short on reason.

It’s an interesting speech that’s the opposite of fire-breathing — watch the video below

He is speaking the truth you ought to listen.

 

[chance1]

Heard about it

Have not seen it yet

Good for him

It is my opinion that much like gay marriage

That change is coming or rather it is here

Guns are too dangerous to not be heavily scrutinized

This is NoT like freedom of speech as the consequences are deadly

 

[Kulindahr]

He is speaking the truth you ought to listen.

Okay.


I like that he opened with a Bible quote, but he trailed off into too many platitudes.

I'll give him credit for giving a decent sermon to hurting people.

But it doesn't help to exaggerate and say that there's a mass shooting "almost every day".

I hope that part of his "if there's anything we can do" includes arming the teachers.

I do wonder if he was deliberately referencing Crosby, Stills, & Nash with the comment about teaching our children well.

Many Democrats probably aren't happy with him ending with a prayer. Many Republicans still won't believe he's a Christian.

 

[JayHawk]

Joe Mansion the Senator from Kentucky .... also a NRA supported candidate is happily going to look at the Feinstein bill and thinks it is time for action. This terroristic act is going to change the nation like the way Oklahoma City changed the nation. Children is just too much for most.

As far as mass shootings... what do you consider mass? two three? Five? I can show you three people shot every day of the year in the united states.

 

[Kulindahr]

Joe Mansion the Senator from Kentucky .... also a NRA supported candidate is happily going to look at the Feinstein bill and thinks it is time for action. This terroristic act is going to change the nation like the way Oklahoma City changed the nation. Children is just too much for most.

As far as mass shootings... what do you consider mass? two three? Five? I can show you three people shot every day of the year in the united states.

The Feinstein bill is feel-good action to address symptoms, not problems. She bloody well knows it won't do a thing except titillate the usual gun-haters.

 

[chance1]

^ it's Manchin and it's West Virginia - other than that you're spot on

saw Joe's 10 minute bit tonight - he's spot on as well

he said that he had the highest rating from the NRA when he was in congress

so ............

 

[Spiff]

I wonder how many children's murders are required to change the minds of more hardcore conservatives. Surely they must have a price; albeit substantially higher than Joe's

 

[Kulindahr]

. . . so we may hope that he's going to be rational and not go flying off with Feinstein fantasies. What we need to address are the very specific things in common to all or most of the last two years' shootings: mental health support, and reporting dangerous people to the NICS.

Both of those should be no-brainers.

The Tea Partites will oppose both.

 

[Constantine]

So you know we love our Morning Joe up here in the frigid 'north' Canuckistan.

And today, he took me so by surprise that I've been pondering this throughout the day....



Perhaps he can help create the balanced environment for talking about solutions that do not infringe on the enshrined rights, but recognize the disconnect between a 1789 technological realities and those of today.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/12/17/joe-scarborough-gun-control/

He left me going 'wow'. The guy gets it.

So it had to hit "close to home" for him to take notice.

Whatever.

 

[chrisrobin]

I wonder how many children's murders are required to change the minds of more hardcore conservatives. Surely they must have a price; albeit substantially higher than Joe's

I wonder how many children's murders are required to change the minds of more hardcore conservatives?

When one of the murdered belongs to "a more hardcore conservative." God forbid!

 

[chance1]

The last 3 posts are part of the problem

Clearly not part of any solution

You want what you want on your terms only

Life doesn't work that way

 

[JayHawk]

Demands work that way though Chance and if you don't ask you don't receive.

 

[chance1]

Demands work that way though Chance and if you don't ask you don't receive.

Asking is great
Facts are great
Demagoguery is not
Demonization is not

I was referring to 3 posts that are fuck you scorched earth chubby nonsense

Vs. Schumer - manchin - Scarborough - Harry Reid etc.

The NRA is on its heels

 

[Kulindahr]

The last 3 posts are part of the problem

Clearly not part of any solution

You want what you want on your terms only

Life doesn't work that way

LOL

Chance, you're doing exactly what you're dissing here -- wanting it all your way.

Try reading; you'll see that there were constructive suggestions made.

 

[Kulindahr]

Asking is great
Facts are great
Demagoguery is not
Demonization is not

I was referring to 3 posts that are fuck you scorched earth chubby nonsense

Vs. Schumer - manchin - Scarborough - Harry Reid etc.

The NRA is on its heels

If Schumer, Feinstein, et al come out with their direct attacks on the Second Amendment again, touting proposals already tested and found useless, the NRA will gain half a million members in half a year.

BTW, how is making constructive suggestions "scorched earth chubby nonsense"?