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Joe Scarborough reverses his stance on gun control

Kulindahr said:
. . . so we may hope that he's going to be rational and not go flying off with Feinstein fantasies. What we need to address are the very specific things in common to all or most of the last two years' shootings: mental health support, and reporting dangerous people to the NICS.

Both of those should be no-brainers.

The Tea Partites will oppose both.
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Kuli you call Feinstein's opinions crazy but this is truly ridiculous - don't regulate how easy it is for someone to get an assault rifle - regulate CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!!

On the contrary, the tea party will be right on board with this - they think the rest of us are all crazy and will no doubt be reporting all of us to your new Gov gestapo in order to have our rights to firearms removed. Scratch that, we will all be reporting each other because I really don't think some suburban commando who's penis is in his holster is sane enough to have the fifty kabillion weapons he keeps in his den.

And there is the real thing all you gun advocates like to ignore. Most gun owners DON'T buy guns because they feel threatened - that's just the fig leaf - they buy them to feel like Rambo. (I'll excuse actual hunters, who have a lot of crossovers anyway with the aforementioned) and there are not a few of them who would gleefully welcome and excuse to "defend their homes."

Don't bother trying to say otherwise - I got a .22 put in my hand at 8, it and my three shotguns hung on the wall in my bedroom from then until I graduated from college and moved to the big city - I know gun owners, I grew up with them, and the fact is that there are far far far far more casual and careless gun owners than there are careful and knowledgeable ones.

Yeah well the beer swilling slob who's drunk in his deer blind is a crazy person - I insist he be reported, he's not capable of even handling a 12 gauge, let alone an assault rifle - but i bet you he's got something similar, or has dreams of one.

The problem is not the crazy - the problem is the ease with which the crazy can get efficient weaponry.

There is nothing wrong with regulating firearms - in fact we ALREADY DO.
 
JayHawk said:
The NRA was already on it's heals ... they spent about 100k in each of six races they provided support for in this last election... all their candidates lost.
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Not sure what your point is

My point is simply that reasonable dialogue creates reasoned outcomes

Or more likely anyway
 
chance1 said:
Not sure what your point is

My point is simply that reasonable dialogue creates reasoned outcomes

Or more likely anyway
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You make multiple points in a bulleted fashion in every post. if I have supplemental information or a disagreement then i say so.

Last post indicated NRA on heals... I even ONLY quoted that portion to remove any confusion. My supplemental information merely added the fact that the NRA was negligible and ineffective in the last race and so therefore were already on their heals. What could you possibly not comprehend?
 
JayHawk said:
You make multiple points in a bulleted fashion in every post. if I have supplemental information or a disagreement then i say so.

Last post indicated NRA on heals... I even ONLY quoted that portion to remove any confusion. My supplemental information merely added the fact that the NRA was negligible and ineffective in the last race and so therefore were already on their heals. What could you possibly not comprehend?
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Who cares sweetie if they were already on their heels

Are we keeping score ?

You're know it all thing is annoying

Can't u temper it a wee bit ?
 
As soon as you do sweetie. If you don't think you understand issues and have a position then why do you post here? That is all I do and yet you get offended when you cant read or comprehend what is written.

The reason it matters is because what you stated was incorrect in that this issue has not placed them on their heels. This knocked them to the mat. You sure do get offended easy. must be a bitch living in NYC.
 
As soon as people start calling each other "sweetie," the purse fight is official.

Demerits to Chance for swinging his Prada knockoff first.
 
:jasun: :jasun: :jasun:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I only swing the best purses... no prada knockoff for me...

I am more Dooney and Burke in a sensible brown...

DB%2Bpurse.jpg
 
^ u win

Ur really smart

I'm really dumb
 
JayHawk said:
As soon as you do sweetie. If you don't think you understand issues and have a position then why do you post here? That is all I do and yet you get offended when you cant read or comprehend what is written.

The reason it matters is because what you stated was incorrect in that this issue has not placed them on their heels. This knocked them to the mat. You sure do get offended easy. must be a bitch living in NYC.
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No

I said they're on their heels

Not this put them there

Reading is fundamental
 
JayHawk said:
:jasun: :jasun: :jasun:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I only swing the best purses... no prada knockoff for me...

I am more Dooney and Burke in a sensible brown...

DB%2Bpurse.jpg
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Well points for heft - you could do some serious damage with that, points off for style!

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JayHawk said:
net gain zero. Thanks for playing.
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And isn't that the story of political chat boards.
 
I have never seen this guy, Scarborough. I only know of his existence through this forum.

I assume he is some kind of conservative commentator, since chance seems enamored of his opinions.

I feel the same way about him as I do about Westboro Baptist Church. Why does his opinion matter? It is well if he is an American who has come to the enlightenment that we need to do something about guns in America. But, why does his opinion matter more than anyone else's? If he hasn't realized this fact before now, he strikes me as kinda stupid.

So, why do people listen to people who are generally unenlightened, and then celebrate when they finally come round to what the rest of us have known all along?
 
His opinion does matter. Scarborough is not some irrational, ranting right wing dingbat. He was in Congress and now hosts one of the smartest programs on television on MSNBC.

So his opinion may carry a lot of weight with viewers and even in government.

I recommend watching him.
 
Chuck Norris On Gun Control LOL
I didn't know he is for gun freedom ...

 
I think that Chuck Norris inhaled too much and too often and actually started to believe in the fantasy world he inhabits.

The only others out there that I can honestly say make Norris look like a baby la la when it comes to these issues are Ted Nugent and Hank Williams Jr.
 
This is loosely related to the thread's discussion of media and guns.

After the Newtown massacre made news, media magnate and Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch tweeted the following:

Terrible news today. When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy
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An Australian conservative politician, Malcolm Turnbull, who is a personal friend of Murdoch's, re-tweeted the message, and then his own reply:

@rupertmurdoch I suspect they will find the courage when Fox News enthusiastically campaigns for it
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Turnbull makes a great point. Fox News is in a powerful position to encourage change in the US. Their demographic directly correlates with gun ownership. A pipe dream, perhaps, but it would be wonderful to see some genuine balance and honesty about guns on Fox.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/turnbull-targets-murdoch-over-guns-20121217-2bii3.html
 
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