John McCain - One Brave Buck

[chance1]

not many would advocate what he is

He wants to be President

He is backing a position that is not popular with Americans who are sick of being in Iraq. Of a position that has been attacked by the Dems and the media. Every day the drumbeat says "get out of Iraq" - the details and aftermath are conveniently skipped. The aftermath of a pullout would be devastating to Iraq, to the Middle East, to the free world. Terrorists would be emboldened, Iran would be emboldened .................... We would not have credibility

Back to McCain

I don't agree with him on everything but unlike most all modern day politicians he is putting his beliefs/principles ahead of his wants.

I love the guy

He is very much like Joe Lieberman who got torpedoed by special interest groups in the CT primary but DID NOT change his views. He got re-elected

McCain is to be commended for his stance - whether u agree with him or not.

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

I used to really admire John McCain, because he spoke his mind, whether anyone agreed with him or not. Then, he became Bush's lap dog, so that he could get the nomination. He has become a Republican ass kisser, so he can go on down the road.

 

[chance1]

I used to really admire John McCain, because he spoke his mind, whether anyone agreed with him or not. Then, he became Bush's lap dog, so that he could get the nomination. He has become a Republican ass kisser, so he can go on down the road.

do you think his stand on the war is an accomodation to Bush?

Or he believes in it?

An ass kisser would do the Dem thing and criticize everything about the war, while offering no solutions

That would be ass kissing the american public which has been brainwashed into "we gotta get out of Iraq"

McCain is a lot of things

ass kisser is not one of them

 

[Just_Believe18]

I used to like McCain. However, now I feel like he has given up his Maverick days...

 

[chance1]

What about him making nice with the evangelicals? You think he had a legitimate change of heart?

can't argue with you on that one

I believe that was politics - and not a good move

 

[tonyboy]

Senator John McCain would make an excellent President of the United States. He is principled and speaks his mind. He is against the pork spending that seems to have consumed Congress since the early 90's.
He doesn't always have his temper under control which is not always a bad thing.

There is no current Democratic candidate that I think would make better President than McCain.

Mitt Romney is another guy that I'm taking a look at. And former NYC Mayor Rudy G. is worth a look too.

Always interesting to read what you write Chance1. You are a jub treasure far as I'm concerned.

 

[jockboy01]

I haven't kept up with McCain recently, but I used to really like him. And I agree with his stance and that he should be commended for following what he believes to be true (of course, Bush does this too and most of the time I disagree... so it depends on the person, a smart person doing what IS right vs a dumb one doing what he THINKS is right).

I'd probably vote for McCain for president. I think he is middle of the road enough to win it and do a good job. The hard part for him will be getting the republican nomination b/c he isn't as far right as so many.

And I'm very anti the war in Iraq... but now you can't just leave and leave it a mess. It'll be worse than it was before we went in and probably more of a breeding ground for Al Queda (which wouldn't take much since they didn't used to be there...but I digress)

 

[lancelva]

The failure of this escalation--which McCain was the first to advocate--will equal the failure of his presidential campaign.

 

[Andreus]

The failure of this escalation--which McCain was the first to advocate--will equal the failure of his presidential campaign.

absolutely

giulliani will make hamburger meat of him in the primary season

the republicans wont even get the chance on that one

has anyone noticed he has been uncharacteristically silent on this troop surge?

 

[herewego]

He is the worst one out there. He speaks everyday at Bob Jones university, changes his position every five seconds on the war, voted for torture, calls Jerry Falwell a messenger of peace, told Bush it was okay that they smeared his family. He's out of his mind. He'll be 72, he's had multiple bouts with cancer, and he's a lunatic. More of the neocon agenda.

 

[Homoerectus]

He is trying to appeal to the Republican right wingers. He can't win the nomination unless he gets the right wing voters.

 

[Kulindahr]

He's gutsy to take this stand? Yes.
Is he a great man?

Well, let's see: he's shown he's against free speech when it might keep his friends in Congress from being re-elected, he shilly-shallies around with televangelists and religious reactionaries, he tells the voters of his state one thing and does another on several issues, after Bush beat him out back when, he became almost a Bush lapdog...

Not a great man -- an opportunist who loves his power and perks.

 

[glo-unit]

He's gutsy to take this stand? Yes.
Is he a great man?

Well, let's see: he's shown he's against free speech when it might keep his friends in Congress from being re-elected, he shilly-shallies around with televangelists and religious reactionaries, he tells the voters of his state one thing and does another on several issues, after Bush beat him out back when, he became almost a Bush lapdog...

Not a great man -- an opportunist who loves his power and perks.

As someone from Arizona I agree with everything you said. His days of being a maverick are long over, and I still don't understand how he is still so popular.

 

[Kulindahr]

As someone from Arizona I agree with everything you said. His days of being a maverick are long over, and I still don't understand how he is still so popular.

He's a Republican the media can like. Really -- who else have they got?

 

[glo-unit]

He's a Republican the media can like. Really -- who else have they got?

That's true, but I'm surprised just how many people still buy into the whole maverick BS stll. I can't remember the last time I thought something he did was anything but a political move.

 

[NickCole]

McCain is unstable. He proved that when he started hugging George Bush and politically crawled into his lap.

There is no way the American people will elect him President.

I only hope he doesn't humiliate himself too much more.

He served our country honorably, both in Viet Nam and for years in Congress. And he deserves respect for that. But we need, more than ever, someone who's fully competent in the Oval Office, and that's not John McCain.

 

[NW007]

absolutely

giulliani will make hamburger meat of him in the primary season

the republicans wont even get the chance on that one

has anyone noticed he has been uncharacteristically silent on this troop surge?

Read the article I mentioned yesterday in the Washingtonpost.com about "The War within McCain" It gives a good picture of his situation and explains why he appears silent. He is in kind of a no win situation. Yes he has been for more troops from the very beginning to fight the situation properly. Now, that the President is talking about just 20,0000 more troops that may not be enough.

Unfortunately, I think both Giulliani and McCain will have a hard time getting through a Republican primary. As, I have said before, it is unfortunate that the extreme elements of both parties often make it hard if not impossible for some of the best candidates to make it through the primary season.

 

[chance1]

I love u guys - I really do

Here are some of the pearls from the JUB Smear Squad

1) McCain is unstable

nice one - **deleted by SteveNavy2003**


2) Guiliani is a Nazi too

**deleted by SteveNavy2003** thanks for marginalizing Hitler's deeds

3) He speaks everyday at Bob Jones university, changes his position every five seconds on the war, voted for torture

**deleted by SteveNavy2003** he fought the Pres on the Geneva convention/torture issue - and "everyday" at Bob Jones - ah no.

4) He has become a Republican ass kisser

Tx - I'm confused - JM is a Republican - how is he kissing Republican ass?

Real simple concept - he's out there by himself really on this position - front and center - it is brave - it is to be commended - it is what u want from your elected leaders - compare that to John Kerry or other flippy flop boys who check YOUR temperature and then decide their position

What we have here is as GWB fades into the sunset, another Republican will become the attack-eee for the Republicans. Nice

 

[Kulindahr]

I love u guys - I really do

Here are some of the pearls from the JUB Smear Squad

1) McCain is unstable

nice one - **deleted by SteveNavy2003**


2) Guiliani is a Nazi too

**deleted by SteveNavy2003** thanks for marginalizing Hitler's deeds

3) He speaks everyday at Bob Jones university, changes his position every five seconds on the war, voted for torture

**deleted by SteveNavy2003** he fought the Pres on the Geneva convention/torture issue - and "everyday" at Bob Jones - ah no.

4) He has become a Republican ass kisser

Tx - I'm confused - JM is a Republican - how is he kissing Republican ass?

Real simple concept - he's out there by himself really on this position - front and center - it is brave - it is to be commended - it is what u want from your elected leaders - compare that to John Kerry or other flippy flop boys who check YOUR temperature and then decide their position

What we have here is as GWB fades into the sunset, another Republican will become the attack-eee for the Republicans. Nice

First: I like that editing job, O Mod! It leaves us the substance instead of just killing the post.

Chance, as I said, he's to be admired for one thing -- but he has so many other flaws he's a very good argument for term limits. I can remember admiring him all the way 'round, but that was... ... ... back when the other Bush was president.

I agree with your statement about Kerry, but on numerous issues McCain has become a flip-flop clone. He's tip-toed farther and farther from integrity, and from being a Republican; the McCain-Feingold legislation proved that what he really is, is a member of the great "ReElect Us!" party, interested in staying in Washington, stifling efforts to dislodge incumbents so he and all the familiar faces can do business as usual. He kisses (real) Republican ass so it looks like he still is one.
So he hasn't "become" the target of Republican attacks, he's been one.

 

[BoSoxFanVa]

Two years ago I respected McCain and thought that I could actually, one day vote for this guy for President. Boy has that changed.

No better example of his hypocrisy was on display last month when he was on the Hardball College Tour with Chris Mathews. Mathews asked him about the gay marriage issue. First he was for it, but during a commercial break one of his advisors told him he made a mistake and when they came back on the air, he said he was against it.

The discussion of that miscue is on the following YouTube clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxV_850LSkU&mode=related&search=

It's not just the gay marriage issue that bothers me. It's his support of the Iraq war and the surge and his hard turn to the right just to appease the social conservatives and the christian fundamentalists.

He doesn't deserve that Republican "Maverick" label anymore. It now belongs to Chuck Hagel.