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just venting, airing out, talking shit, personal beefs, problems, anger management, and etc thread

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Our climate is broken. It is almost April and I feel like it's still November/December x_x...there was one beautiful 70F+ weekend here and then it all went downhill.

*pushes Spring out of bed*

I'm used to "harsh" Marches in MA but I am just ready for it to be over. I would be content with the temp in the 50s. This low 40s shit has to go.
 
It's only love refuji.

dunno what that's supposed to mean

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I never understood the point of these endless debates and arguments. At some point people are just not adding anything new to the arguments. They just start repeating themselves. Ultimately, don't you have to agree that you are never going to agree? I've yet to see a lightbulb go on in one side's brain and they exclaim "OMG! You're right and I am wrong."
 
Arguing for pages on end means nothing. It's all about substance. Giancarlo's a case of the emperor having no clothes. He's not ideologically consistent - you saw how he just defended genocidal statements and had to backpedal.

Buzzer's wicked smart and could out-argue me most of the time, but I've had discussions with him where I feel like I could win a formal debate on the subject at hand. I mostly made that post to see if I could bait him into posting last night. XD

He also keeps his cool, most of the time. He's able to hang in there and wait patiently for the other person to wear down and have a melt down - then he moves in for the kill !!!

It's terrifying to watch, but also extremely erotic/hot. :D
 
The best part of any argument is when you just walk away and leave the other person frothing at the mouth waiting for a reply. My grandmother told me as a child "You should avoid arguing with idiots, you can't win, and people won't be able to tell who's who". Gram was a smart ole bird.
 
Guess I'm still old school.

In my day, discussion and debate were a time for sharing...

ideas, thoughts, concepts or even dreams and aspirations.

Now it seems more like

grind down, browbeat, belittle and/or defame...

 
I'm hugely irritated that the new I-9 form is now (technically) 9... yes... NINE Pages (5 if printed front and back).

6 pages of instructions, and 3 pages of the actual I-9 Form.
 
I'm more keen on posting Teddy Roosevelt speeches (there are only a few out there...
I'm assuming you're talking about Teddy Roosevelt speeches on Youtube.

It's as though something doesn't exist in history unless it was filmed and uploaded to Youtube. I was trying to have a sensible conversation about an important playwright* with JUB's pugnacious Bulgarian but his view had been irretrievably skewed/prejudiced by a chance atypical recording on Youtube. :##:

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw
 
Was supposed to do some video shooting today but wasted half of the day waiting due to my friend dealing with his sibling rivalry. Apparently his supposed closeted gay brother hate his elder brother so much so that he cause a huge scene in front of his parents (for years now). Kinda feel bad for him. Thank god my siblings don't hate me so much to make my every day a living hell. Just kinda sucks that since we are always helping each other and shooting videos together, he has to be dragged down or badly affected by this kinds of things :(
 
well, it looks like sooner or later, i'm going to have to get my own spot to crash in. had a talk with my mom about being gay and i asked her when i get a boyfriend, if i could bring him instead my house. she said that she wouldn't mind if i brought him in here but she wouldn't be able to tolerate me kissing him or anything else. :( she also said that she doesn't agree with gay people and gay rights, basically had a homophobic approach and etc.

you know, i think the thing that upsets me is basically being alone when everything is said and done in terms of coming out. you know, basically having to worry about straight people that are homophobic that don't want to have shit to do with you for being gay. then not being accepted by other gay people. you know, i feel that it's harder to make gay friends and basically being able to lean onto other gay people than it is towards straight people. as much as gay people say that we're a community, i feel that gay people in general are a bit selfish in terms of bonding with other gays friendwise and etc. folks are like "if we can't date you, then we're not messing with you if you're a guy". i don't want to be alone just for being who i am because people are worrying over things that don't matter. having straight people refuse to associate with me because i'm gay and then having gay people refusing to associate with me because i'm not attractive or dateable in their eyes. :( i understand people are people BUT it sucks when people basically demean and devalue you as a human being or person over the little fucking things that aren't even affecting them or are hurting them.
 
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Refuji... FYI - the reason people get jobs and move out IS so they can have a place to make out/have sex that isn't under their mother's house/rule, and get on with their life.

...Unless you're this guy...
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Refuji... FYI - the reason people get jobs and move out IS so they can have a place to make out/have sex that isn't under their mother's house/rule, and get on with their life.

...Unless you're this guy...
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don't get me wrong. moving out and having my own spot is what i want and need, not only that it gives me my indepedence where i can do whatever i want, helps my confidence and gets me away from this sea of negativity that i'm surrounded by. i most definitely don't want to be living in this place forever and as soon as i'm able to find a spot, i'm on out of here. it sucks that my mother just doesn't understand where she thinks that gay people shouldn't have their rights or all this homophobia propaganda outthere where we should be discriminated against. i know that she loves me because i'm her son and all but i just wish she accepted me for who i am and showed me support knowing that the world out here is not on gay people's side.

i feel that she's holding back how she really feels and that shes just waiting for me to go full blown gay on here where i'm going to gay bars and all for her to basically disown me. you know, almost like in order for her to still love me as a mother and for me to still view her as her son, i have to do and be what she wants or sees fit. if i decide to go off, get a boyfriend, go to gay bars and be openly gay to everybody, i wouldn't be her son anymore where i could talk to her like how i am now. that would hurt but at the same time, i'm tired of having to cater to other people to make them happy and etc. it's time that i do what makes me happy and not what makes other people happy.

i guess it comes back to my fear of being alone and having to deal with shit all by myself because i don't think i can make it.
 
don't get me wrong. moving out and having my own spot is what i want to do. i most definitely don't want to be living in this place forever and as soon as i'm able to find a spot, i'm on out of here so i can have a life of my own. it sucks that my mother just doesn't understand where she thinks that gay people shouldn't have their rights or all this homophobia propaganda outthere where we should be discriminated against. i know that she loves me because i'm her son and all but i just wish she accepted me for who i am and showed me support knowing that the world out here is out on gay people's side.

Not that I'm siding with your mom... or maybe I am ???

When I was 18, I had a GF (didn't figure out I was gay yet). I brought her to the house, and attempted to get my mom to allow her to spend nights there. My mother refused, and told me that if I wanted to do that, get a job, my own apartment, and then I can do anything I want to... which I did.

Sure... I had some resentment at the time, but she was right. At that age (and yours), there's NO (!!!) reason why she should still be supporting me (AND her). It's her house. If you want to live there, you have to abide by HER rules. If you want freedom to do whatever you want (or with whomever) you're going to have to leave the nest and do it.

IMO making out with someone in your mother's house is disrespectful to your mother, and to whomever you're making out with. You think you got it all worked out on how it's going to be on the outside, but honestly, you don't have a clue. Granted, SOME of the stuff you worry about is possible, but it's tip of the ice burg stuff you're stressing over.

You WILL make other friends, gay or otherwise, and you WILL (eventually) find someone... unless you're hell bent on sabotaging yourself for the rest of your life - and even then, there's still going to be people who like and care about you, in spite of yourself.
 
Not that I'm siding with your mom... or maybe I am ???

When I was 18, I had a GF (didn't figure out I was gay yet). I brought her to the house, and attempted to get my mom to allow her to spend nights there. My mother refused, and told me that if I wanted to do that, get a job, my own apartment, and then I can do anything I want to... which I did.

Sure... I had some resentment at the time, but she was right. At that age (and yours), there's NO (!!!) reason why she should still be supporting me (AND her). It's her house. If you want to live there, you have to abide by HER rules. If you want freedom to do whatever you want (or with whomever) you're going to have to leave the nest and do it.

IMO making out with someone in your mother's house is disrespectful to your mother, and to whomever you're making out with. You think you got it all worked out on how it's going to be on the outside, but honestly, you don't have a clue. Granted, SOME of the stuff you worry about is possible, but it's tip of the ice burg stuff you're stressing over.

You WILL make other friends, gay or otherwise, and you WILL (eventually) find someone... unless you're hell bent on sabotaging yourself for the rest of your life - and even then, there's still going to be people who like and care about you, in spite of yourself.

you're most definitely right. being that it's my parent's house, i have to abide by their rules even if i hate them. i don't have much of a choice.

the only thing that irks me is that i don't know how or if i can make it on my own especially money wise out here in new jersey out of all places. i don't want to live in an area where i'm going to be dodging rats, worry about having my place broken into and running from bullets daily like the projects or a really bad neighborhood and i don't know if i'll be able to find a job where i can pay for my daily expenses such as a car or transportation fees, rent, gas, water, utility, food, and etc. with the way rent is, i don't even know if i could even afford a place of my own in the hood since you have places charging out the ass like 600 dollars a month. it irks me how bad the job market is where places are on some bullshit in terms of hiring and they're not even paying enough. like wtf? i guess what i'm saying is i don't want end up in a situation where i'm basically sacrificing myself just to be independent where i'm working 24/7, 2 jobs and saving every penny i get to simply get to survive on my own. it wouldn't be worth it to me. i don't want to rely on anybody anymore such as my parents and i don't want to find myself in a situation where i'm basically killing myself to manage and still falling short.

in term of having gay friends and a boyfriend. you're right about that. everything will work itself in time.
 
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