On-Topic Kenosha Shooter – Kyle Rittenhouse Trial and Verdict

[fabulouslyghetto]

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Anyone actually have any proof that the dude is a White Supremacist.

Clipped where I stopped reading, if I missed pertinent information to this post I apologize.

If he isn't, he was at least doing a photoshoot with known violent racist terrorists the Proud Boys during his post-release bar-hopping. Sidebar: illegal firearm, underage drinking, how many laws does he have to break to be called a thug? Thay word gets thrown around caelses where it hasnt even been ascertained that a black man has even committed a crime.

Kyle Rittenhouse, out on bail, flashed white power signs at a bar, prosecutors say (NBC News; January 2021)

In his 90-minute visit to the bar, Kyle Rittenhouse, 18, was seen consuming alcohol while being serenaded by a group of adult men who sang the Proud Boys’ anthem, according to the motion.

If there were a picture of irony, it would be white people terrified that a white man isn't getting a fair trail in America. Another case of their worst nightmare being our normal everyday reality. But its not about race? A countless number of black men have served hard time for crimes they didnt commit and these same people so passionate about fairness went on with their lives, oblivious as oblivious could be. The only conceivable difference is their color.....

 

[Mariatenebre]

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The Proud Boys are not a "White Supremacist organization" In fact they have men of many races in the Proud Boys and one of their leaders was clearly Hispanic/Meztizo.

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Not to mention Kyle and others were asked to come there to protect the people and their livelihoods from the Commie terrorists and the people he killed were White abusers and pedos.

 

[Mariatenebre]

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The people there did in fact they asked for many people to come and help them when the Commie rioters were burning, looting and murdering there.

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[TX-Beau]

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The people there did in fact they asked for many people to come and help them when the Commie rioters were burning, looting and murdering there.

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NO ONE ASKED KYLE TO DO ANYTHING!

That is just a lie you are pushing to support the rest of your silliness.

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Or especially NOT in Wisconsin. From what I hear and read its the Alabama of the North.

I suspect that Wisconsin has an elected judiciary.

 

[Mariatenebre]

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NO ONE ASKED KYLE TO DO ANYTHING!

That is just a lie you are pushing to support the rest of your silliness.

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I suspect that Wisconsin has an elected judiciary.

The people in that area admitted they asked for people to come down and defend their businesses, homes etc from the Communist insurrectionists who were burning, looting and murdering all last summer. So yeah they absolutely did and they certainly weren't all white or all straight.

In fact Kyle didn't kill one POC person they were all White Communists

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

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The people in that area admitted they asked for people to come down and defend their businesses, homes etc from the Communist insurrectionists who were burning, looting and murdering all last summer. So yeah they absolutely did and they certainly weren't all white or all straight.

In fact Kyle didn't kill one POC person they were all White Communists

Protesting injustice makes you a communist?

For reference's sake: political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

That wasnt their message at all. Their message was stop killing black people. I think we can all agree cops shouldn't be able to murder *black men with impunity.

*Or anyone, but despite being a smaller portion of the population we are most often the victims of police shootings.

This is exactly what they were protesting

Number of people shot to death by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2021, by race (statista; November 1, 2021)

The rate of fatal police shootings in the United States shows large differences based on ethnicity. Among Black Americans, the rate of fatal police shootings between 2015 and October 2021 stood at 37 per million of the population, while for White Americans, the rate stood at 15 fatal police shootings per million of the population.

Wow. Not just differences, "large differences." I don't believe in taxation without representation and I don't believe patterns happen on accident. Numbers tell the whole story, they're unbiased. And these numbers tell a damning story that can't be challenged without using racist mythos about black criminality.

in case it's still unclear why we were protesting, it isn't just the violence, its corruption as a whole, of which we are almost exclusively the victims.

Prosecutor issues list of 136 officers accused of misconduct (Associated Press News; September 2020)

Boston’s top prosecutor on Friday released the names of more than 130 police officers who have been accused of discrimination, corruption or other misconduct that could undermine their credibility as court witnesses.

Even white people don't think cops treat black people fairly

10 things we know about race and policing in the U.S. (Pew Research Center; June 2020)

Majorities of both black and white Americans say black people are treated less fairly than whites in dealing with the police and by the criminal justice system as a whole.

 

[TX-Beau]

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The people in that area admitted they asked for people to come down and defend their businesses, homes etc from the Communist insurrectionists who were burning, looting and murdering all last summer. So yeah they absolutely did and they certainly weren't all white or all straight.

In fact Kyle didn't kill one POC person they were all White Communists

NO ONE ASKED KYLE TO DO ANYTHING!

That is just a lie you are pushing to support the rest of your silliness.

 

[eddielee]

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To me the case seems simple, but by now the jury has been successfully confused. Kyle traveled to the protest with a weapon that was more than needed for personal protection. He went hoping to find trouble, and hoping he would get a chance to use his gun on the evil Liberal rioters. Will he be convicted? He should be, but jurors can do inexplicable things.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

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To me the case seems simple, but by now the jury has been successfully confused. Kyle traveled to the protest with a weapon that was more than needed for personal protection. He went hoping to find trouble, and hoping he would get a chance to use his gun on the evil Liberal rioters. Will he be convicted? He should be, but jurors can do inexplicable things.

an illegal firearm, a point of contention that is so ignored Im questioning if I'm living in a simulation and theres a glitch in the programming. 17 with illegal firearm kills people sounds like a no-brainer. Color politics are so annoying.

And no one's going to convince me the prosecutor isn't a plant. Dude pointing a fucking ar15 at the jury. It doesn't even feel right typing it, is this all a hoax and they're actually filming a live action episode of South park? He's been acting bizarre this whole time but now its like he's playing a parody of incompetent prosecutors.

When I saw "prosecutor points ar15 at jury" I almost threw my phone out the window. Welp, guess I need to wash my protesting pants. Not sure why they'd even need a plant, for what, to secure his acquittal? His white skin is more than sufficient for that. What are they worried abkut, an unfaor trial? Its not like hes an innocent black man in Alabama.

 

[eddielee]

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an illegal firearm, a point of contention that is so ignored Im questioning if I'm living in a simulation and theres a glitch in the programming. 17 with illegal firearm kills people sounds like a no-brainer. Color politics are so annoying.

And no one's going to convince me the prosecutor isn't a plant. Dude pointing a fucking ar15 at the jury. It doesn't even feel right typing it, is this all a hoax and they're actually filming a live action episode of South park? He's been acting bizarre this whole time but now its like he's playing a parody of incompetent prosecutors.

When I saw "prosecutor points ar15 at jury" I almost threw my phone out the window. Welp, guess I need to wash my protesting pants. Not sure why they'd even need a plant, for what, to secure his acquittal? His white skin is more than sufficient for that. What are they worried abkut, an unfaor trial? Its not like hes an innocent black man in Alabama.

Of course it's a no brainer, and he should be guilty but, nothing ever goes the way I expect.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

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Of course it's a no brainer, and he should be guilty but, nothing ever goes the way I expect.

Ive been making amends with family and my partner. I expect an acquital and will be protesting, which always felt borderline dangerous but this case set a precedent. If you hate black people just show up at a protest with an assault rifle, doesnt evem have to be legal just be white and its ok. Ive anticipated assaults from the police and was ready to accept that fate, but knowing just anyone can show up and kill me adds an unfair dynamic to an already unfair situation. Welp, if i die at least it was for a righteous cause if kyle goes to prison he will rot having sacrificed himself for a lot that will forget him after his first year. He'll get donations to his commissary at first but racist loyalty is very thin.

 

[TX-Beau]

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Back to the topic, it appears that there is a motion for mistrial that shockingly hasn't been decided yet. What does one think might the judge do with that if the verdict goes against Kyle?

 

[gsdx]

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Also Kyle didn't murder anyone. Killing violent rioters who are trying to kill you and destroying a city isn't murder.

Exactly how was the man who got shot in the back trying to kill him? Lethal Farts?

 

[TX-Beau]

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Exactly how was the man who got shot in the back trying to kill him? Lethal Farts?

Just saw on the TV that one of the murderers in the Aubry case decided to pull a Kyle and blubber on the stand about how very, very, very, terrified he was.

We all must understand - and you as a White guy should implicitly know, that when you are armed, or in superior numbers, or even chasing Negros in vehicles, you are always in danger of being violently overwhelmed at any time by anyone, and therefore must immediately (and quite justifiably, in a legally relevant manner) kill anyone you don't like.

Sure, that sounds about right.

If some other kind of person disputes that, I will get on the stand and publicly CRY about it!

Frankly the grounds for appeal for both parties are painfully apparent with this judge, who himself did a pouty white guy whine FROM THE BENCH! Apparently the mean reporters are picking on him.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

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Back to the topic, it appears that there is a motion for mistrial that shockingly hasn't been decided yet. What does one think might the judge do with that if the verdict goes against Kyle?

At this point I'm wondering if the judge is in love with kyle. Hes stopped just shy of risking his career on coddling this psychopath.

 

[TX-Beau]

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At this point I'm wondering if the judge is in love with kyle. Hes stopped just shy of risking his career on coddling this psychopath.

I'm not familiar with Wisconsin, but even with general ethical standards there are a whole bunch of things that are completely dodgy. One of the talking heads on the TV played his meandering and frankly confusing instructions, the whine fest about the media, and his incoherent attempts to justify his behavior and the only thing jumped to mind was ELECTED judiciary.

I know there are unqualified judges and especially lawyers, but you only seem to get the worst loons in places with open elections for judges. Texas does that also, and look at the clown fest on the bench here.

Plus no one seems to want to just say outright on the TV that the appearance of bias is GLARING.

 

[Cormac135]

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Can't say i've kept up with the case too much, there's only so much CNN even i can stomach.

Is he in prison now, remand etc. ?

 

[TX-Beau]

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Can't say i've kept up with the case too much, there's only so much CNN even i can stomach.

Is he in prison now, remand etc. ?

The jury is out, the crowds are gathering, the National Guard is on standby. The Jury is allowed to consider less severe charges now, so there is a marginally better chance he'll be convicted of something, but then it was always a longshot. The judge appears to have hamstrung the prosecution as much as he can without obvious bias, so we'll see.

I bet the jury attempts a quibble, guilty of something, but not guilty of murder.

 

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[TX-Beau]

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The defense filed another motion for mistrial, the judge said that if there is a guilty verdict, he'll decide.

That is a fucking statement of intent.