Know what I don't understand...

[james1200]

i'm not flaming you...it's just frustrating cause i've been a member since january and i love it here but it's the same argument about bisexuals from exactly the same people and they don't even have anything original to attack you with...their basic argument is "you guys are not capable of being monogamous" when the entire gay community is mostly unable to be monogamous. so again, why are we held to a higher standard? how are we somehow more sneaky and backhanded when all gays are screwing around on each other???

 

[bma1983]

I wouldn’t want to date a bi man for basically the reasons Soilwork listed. Also, I generally don’t find bisexual men attractive. Why? Because I don’t want to be with a man who finds women sexually attractive. For me it’s a turn off.

Also, I want to spend my life with a man who shares my sexuality. Bisexual men and gay men are not the same. Just like many str8 women and men would prefer for their mates to be str8 also, I would prefer for my mate to be gay.

Maybe I should just say I'm gay to guys, since they dislike being with a bisexual

You wouldn’t be the first bi man to say he’s gay. But hiding the fact that your bi from gay men isn’t a good way to get their trust.

 

[ahotjock71]

It makes him a hypocrite for painting all bi guys with the same brush when I'm sure he doesn't like to be generalised either.

I think both of you need to look up the definition of "hypocrite."

I am alot of things, but a hypocrite is not one of them.

And I answered both of you above, if you care to read my replies.

And no, it does not all have to do with the argument of cheating. It's their personal ethics. Period.

 

[Auburn]

i'm not flaming you...it's just frustrating cause i've been a member since january and i love it here but it's the same argument about bisexuals from exactly the same people and they don't even have anything original to attack you with...their basic argument is "you guys are not capable of being monogamous" when the entire gay community is mostly unable to be monogamous. so again, why are we held to a higher standard? how are we somehow more sneaky and backhanded when all gays are screwing around on each other???

Hey, i think you have offended alot of peoplel here!!!! You shouldn't say "the entire gay community is mostly unable to be monogamous". First, of all that statement does not make sense because you say "entire" and "mostly" in the same damn sentence. Not all gay men are cheaters....that's just a bullshit stereotype people use to discriminate against gays. If you think gay men are ALL cheaters, then why do you date men? I just don't get it.

 

[james1200]

while i have sex with men i don't date them and this is a large part of the reason why...the bitchiness shown by a lot of them. it's a turn off like you wouldn't believe. i'm perfectly content dating girls...i gotta say, and i never thought this could be true, but they seem to be less work than guys.

 

[ahotjock71]

I think alot of the problem here is alot of bi men don't want to be painted with the wide brush, then they rush to defend themselves when percieved generalized.

If it does not apply to you, then why not say, "That does not apply to me" and be done with it? Why defend a community that by and large are admitedly the way they are generally percieved?

James, I think you are an ok bloke from most of the posts I have read of yours, as well as several other bi men here. While I do not agree with bisexual behavior in general, you shouldn't take these posts personally, unless they are directed at you.

 

[Kurn]

I treat every man I meet as a unique individual and appreciate him for all that he is. I am fairly demanding when it comes to respecting and being respected. I go deep with people. Every time I'm with someone I make the encounter one in which we both come out more relaxed and in touch with our own best natures. The issues being debated are interesting but they are completely foreign to me.

In the "normal" world men try to kill each other. That's not what we do. Right???

 

[james1200]

I think alot of the problem here is alot of bi men don't want to be painted with the wide brush, then they rush to defend themselves when percieved generalized.

If it does not apply to you, then why not say, "That does not apply to me" and be done with it? Why defend a community that by and large are admitedly the way they are generally percieved?

James, I think you are an ok bloke from most of the posts I have read of yours, as well as several other bi men here. While I do not agree with bisexual behavior in general, you shouldn't take these posts personally, unless they are directed at you.

because your know-it-allism boggles my fucking mind..."a community that by and large are admittedly the way they are generally percieved", "while i do not agree with bisexual behaviour in general"...LMFAO...your hostility is hidden, barely, under this weird faux scientific sounding bullshit you're spouting. again, what study are you getting your info from my friend?? because you've known 3 bisexual men, doesn't make you an expert. i realize everyone has their one issue that pushes their buttons so they can't be objective about it, it's human nature, but you just make yourself sound sooooo foolish.

 

[ahotjock71]

because your know-it-allism boggles my fucking mind..."a community that by and large are admittedly the way they are generally percieved", "while i do not agree with bisexual behaviour in general"...LMFAO...your hostility is hidden, barely, under this weird faux scientific sounding bullshit you're spouting. again, what study are you getting your info from my friend?? because you've known 3 bisexual men, doesn't make you an expert. i realize everyone has their one issue that pushes their buttons so they can't be objective about it, it's human nature, but you just make yourself sound sooooo foolish.

The inability for you to open your mind to another point of view, maybe? Scientific what? Spewing who?

I barely understood what you said James. Now, you have never spoken to me outside of the threads we have participated in, so how can you "claim" to know me? I give YOU, as an individual the benefit of the doubt, yet you spit in my face? And YOU accuse ME of hate? I don't get it....

How do you know how many bi men I have known? (again you have never spoken to me outside of threads & I KNOW I have never given any specific number of bi men I have known in my life, but if you read my posts again you will see I have irreterated SEVERAL times that I have known MANY, MANY bi men, I would guesstimate maybe 50 to 75, AT LEAST, in my life of 34 years.) How can those encouters & experiences NOT be valid as part of my theories & background?

Are you simply bitter because I don't like bi men? Well, Darlin, that's a personal problem.

As far as my "know-it-all-ism," all I post here are MY OPINIONS, and experiences. We can agree to disagree, or....well, I don't know what you're gonna do, but me, I get over it.

I really don't know what else to say.....

 

[Centexfarmer]

i'm not flaming you...it's just frustrating cause i've been a member since january and i love it here but it's the same argument about bisexuals from exactly the same people and they don't even have anything original to attack you with...their basic argument is "you guys are not capable of being monogamous" when the entire gay community is mostly unable to be monogamous. so again, why are we held to a higher standard? how are we somehow more sneaky and backhanded when all gays are screwing around on each other???

What in THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Sounds to me like you're going off on a little rant of your own.

Talk about "generalities."

So you don't "date" gay guys, but you'll fuck the shit out of them, or let them fuck you?

WTFE!

You're EXACTLY the type of "bisexual" that I would NEVER date/sleep with unless I was stoned and had no self-respect.

I like the majority of your posts, and find humor in a lot of the same things that you find humorous.

Sex wise, I perceive you...based upon your posts to cupofjohn's thread...which btw is HIS thread...which means that it's all about cupofjohn and NOT you, that supports my first post to this thread.

YOU'VE never "come out" except to admitting that you like to suck cock, but I'm willing to bet that when "push comes to shove," you'll say..."I was stoned!" Sorry honey!

So spare us "gay guys" YOUR "bisexual" sanctimonious bullshit.

Provided that's not too much to ask.









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[Xavier_Holland]

I'm bi and instead of writing an entire page I will only write a few paragraphs.

They feel sexually inadequate to either one, enter a relationship with you because they are gay and or two they cannot see themselves holding your interest because all they think about is being with another guy and you see things differently. Noone can ever rephrase that because it's the truth. Gay means you're homosexual-end. Bisexual means you can have heterosexual and homosexual partners. In essence, they think that's all you're about and personally feel threatened by a female's presence in your life. I'm bi and lean towards guys now however if a gay man is rude with you or immediately discontinues the conversation it's not your fault. It's his because he's a child and thinks about things that don't involve him.


If you break up with a man, and date a female this does not mean it's not your freedom to do so anyways. You still broke up with them and that's that, and they need to grow up and deal with it. If you or anyone you know have been,"burned," by a bi guy. You should really think about that, is it just because he's with a girl now you suddenly have a grudge? How would you like it if he was with another guy and he's hotter than you? Same affect. It's called jealousy.


Be an adult and endure a relationship regardless of whose in it and small mindless details in the shadows if you're in love. Act mature and quit bitching. Lol

 

[james1200]

What in THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Sounds to me like you're going off on a little rant of your own.

Talk about "generalities."

So you don't "date" gay guys, but you'll fuck the shit out of them, or let them fuck you?

WTFE!

You're EXACTLY the type of "bisexual" that I would NEVER date/sleep with unless I was stoned and had no self-respect.

I like the majority of your posts, and find humor in a lot of the same things that you find humorous.

Sex wise, I perceive you...based upon your posts to cupofjohn's thread...which btw is HIS thread...which means that it's all about cupofjohn and NOT you, that supports my first post to this thread.

YOU'VE never "come out" except to admitting that you like to suck cock, but I'm willing to bet that when "push comes to shove," you'll say..."I was stoned!" Sorry honey!

So spare us "gay guys" YOUR "bisexual" sanctimonious bullshit.

Provided that's not too much to ask.









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i was responding to ahotjock and his endless posts here and elsewhere about bisexuals whom he thinks he has figured out so i don't really know what the fuck you're talking about or why you're so angry when it wasn't directed at your nosy ass. what the fuck business is it of yours if i respond to ahotjock instead of the original poster? you're not his mommy. are you?

 

[Xavier_Holland]

Whoa easy there James. I get your point too man but relax man. It's cool dude, just a message board.

 

[james1200]

i'm half irish...unless i'm drunk, i get angry easily. wait...i get angry when i'm drunk too.

 

[blackbeltninja]

Why defend a community that by and large are admitedly the way they are generally percieved?

Because this is where it all falls flat! That statement alone carries as much ignorance and vitriol as someone saying "all black people are stupid." It is a gross overstatement and is completely out of line.

You cannot paint everyone with the same brush - that's the whole point.

The other problem here is the use of the word "admittedly." Us bi guys here have never admitted to any of the stereotypes which have been hurled at us. We've defended ourselves and our honour individually, collectively and immediately every single time.

"Admittedly" would mean we agree with you.

We most definitely do not.

-d-

 

[Centexfarmer]

i was responding to ahotjock and his endless posts here and elsewhere about bisexuals whom he thinks he has figured out so i don't really know what the fuck you're talking about or why you're so angry when it wasn't directed at your nosy ass. what the fuck business is it of yours if i respond to ahotjock instead of the original poster? you're not his mommy. are you?

LOL I see that you got your "Irish up" too.

 

[ahotjock71]

Because this is where it all falls flat! That statement alone carries as much ignorance and vitriol as someone saying "all black people are stupid." It is a gross overstatement and is completely out of line.

You cannot paint everyone with the same brush - that's the whole point.

The other problem here is the use of the word "admittedly." Us bi guys here have never admitted to any of the stereotypes which have been hurled at us. We've defended ourselves and our honour individually, collectively and immediately every single time.

"Admittedly" would mean we agree with you.

We most definitely do not.

-d-

Apparently you are so blind to not have seen the many posts where some of the bi men have posted "I'm bi and most bi men DO act they way you say."

Hello! That's why you CANNOT argue or defend a point UNLESS you read ALL the posts in a thread, or series of threads.

And as far as painting everyone with the wide brush, if the paint fits....

Again, READ my post that says if such a situation does not apply to you, then just say so!

Seems it's not us gays attacking you all the time, it's YOU taking offence at our talking about it.

You and James defy any discussion where poor little you feel as if you are being beat up on.

Strap on a pair!

($1 to soilwork)

 

[Soilwork]

Strap on a pair!

($1 to soilwork)

oh, my licensing fee went up.

it's now $1 and a blowjob.

 

[james1200]

You and James defy any discussion where poor little you feel as if you are being beat up on.

Strap on a pair!

($1 to soilwork)

see...you just don't say things like that to a person raised in south boston unless you're looking for trouble.

 

[blackbeltninja]

Apparently you are so blind to not have seen the many posts where some of the bi men have posted "I'm bi and most bi men DO act they way you say."

Hello! That's why you CANNOT argue or defend a point UNLESS you read ALL the posts in a thread, or series of threads.

Again, READ my post that says if such a situation does not apply to you, then just say so!

Seems it's not us gays attacking you all the time, it's YOU taking offence at our talking about it.

You and James defy any discussion where poor little you feel as if you are being beat up on.

Strap on a pair!

($1 to soilwork)

Well, to make absolutely sure I didn't miss anything this time, I just reread the whole thread. And I still don't see anything which says "yes, us bi guys are as bad as you all make us out be. It's true. I don't know why we ever disagreed with you." Now I'm not sure that none of the 100000 members on JUB has ever posted such a comment, but I'm not sure exactly how to feed that into the search engine of the more than 1 million posts made thus far in the history of the boards. So I didn't before reacting to comments made in THIS thread.

Still, please be gracious with your infinite wisdom to point me and all of us to the thread/s where all the bi guys admit to this strange behaviour you seem to find simultaneously lurking under every rock and standing prominently in the window display of every one of your favourite stores.

Nevertheless, why should we have to pipe up to say "That may be true of the general population, but it's not true of me" every single time one of you decides to make a sweeping generalisation? For fuck's sake, we'd have 100 million blonde women replying to every single blonde joke saying "That may be true of the general population, but it's not true of me" every time someobdy cracked a joke, we'd have billions of women saying the same thing every time anyone mentioned that women can't parallel park a car properly.

Here's a thought... how about you just don't issue sweeping generalisations like you're some kind of fucking expert on it? I'm not saying things like "Hey - a southerner from Alabama. He must be an inbred racist, routinely have had sex with his sister and enjoy nothing more than eating possum while going on a Klan march on a daily basis. They all do down there, you know" am I? I can if you'd prefer it, but I'm sure the other Southerners might take issue with it.

So you've known 50 or 75 bi guys - well done. 10 out of 10 for effort. If you can get through a few more hundred million, you may well reach a stage where you can actually say, without fear of contradiction, that the majority act like you say they do. Once you can say so for 50%+1 individual, you're able to say that and nobody can take issue with you. But until then... your experience is unfortunately rather limited on a grander scale of things.

Incidentally, I should wager that addressing all your misconceptions calmly, rationally and politely in the public forum where anyone else could respond in kind IS strapping on a pair.

-d-