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Landscapers - Send An E-Mail to a Homosexual - "We don't take gay customers."

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The Los Angeles Times

Landscapers: We don't take gay customers

A Houston company's rejection of a client shocks some in the city, where homosexuals have made strides.

By Lianne Hart

Times Staff Writer

November 6, 2006

HOUSTON — The co-owner of a landscaping company here called Garden Guy turned down a job last month by sending an e-mail to a man who had requested an estimate for work on his yard:

"I am appreciative of your time on the phone today and glad you contacted us," Sabrina Farber wrote. "I need to tell you that we cannot meet with you because we choose not to work with homosexuals. Best of luck in finding someone else to fill your landscaping needs. All the best."

Floored, the recipient of the e-mail, Michael Lord, and his partner forwarded the message to dozens of friends. Within days the e-mail had spread across the Internet in blogs, websites and gardening forums from Seattle to Washington, D.C.

Farber and her husband, Todd, who've owned the landscaping company since 1991, were bombarded with profane phone calls and e-mails. Their online forum flooded with outraged posts.

"It blackens my mind to think that an alternative version of the KKK is alive & kicking in the USA," read one of the milder comments.

The Farbers, declining interviews, released a statement saying they "do not hate homosexuals" and "did not refuse service with malicious intent…. We meant to uphold our right as small business owners to choose who our clients are. We are humbly sorry for the hurt that it has caused."

Lord and his partner, Gary Lackey, also declined to be interviewed.

The episode was a jolt to many in Houston, where gays and lesbians have enjoyed increasing acceptance over the years.

Despite the city's conservative reputation, there's been a significant shift in support of gay rights here, said Jack Valinski, executive director of Pride Houston, a gay-rights group.

"The e-mail was an aberration. People may want to discriminate, but they're not blatant and public about it like they were before."

Gay and lesbian activist Carol Wyatt said she's "not surprised by homophobia, but that this woman thought it was socially acceptable to write about it in an e-mail. We've come a long way in Houston in terms of tolerance and acceptance. For this to bubble up is embarrassing for a lot of people who care about this city."

There have been no threats of legal action, and both sides seem content to let the matter die. But Valinski said activists may push for an anti-discrimination ordinance that prevents businesses from rejecting customers based on sexual orientation.

The Farbers are clear about their convictions in a "Learn About Garden Guy" page of their website ( http://www.garden-guy.com ). "The God-ordained institution of marriage is under attack in courts across the nation, and your help is needed," reads a tagline that refers readers to http://www.nogaymarriage.com .:confused:

Tim Wildmon, president of the Tupelo, Miss.-based American Family Assn., defends the Farbers.

"It shouldn't come as a shock when a guy who takes his faith seriously says, 'I can't support this,' " Wildmon said. "He doesn't need to be persecuted for his actions."

A few posters on the now-defunct Garden Guy forum agreed.

"Gays, lesbians and transgendered people do plenty of picking & choosing who they work with too," wrote one. "You just had the guts to say it," wrote another.

But the Assn. of Professional Landscape Designers declared that "this conduct does not conform to the policy and practice of APLD."

In an e-mail to friends, Sabrina Farber reportedly wrote that her husband received death threats, and she was told she shouldn't have had the right to bear children. The couple delisted their home phone number, which had appeared on the Internet along with their home address.

Houston has come a long way since the 1970s, when police arrested women for wearing pants with the zipper in front, said Phyllis Frye, a transgender lawyer. She led a successful drive to overturn the ordinance that made it a crime to dress in public like a member of the opposite sex.

Fast-forward to June, when Sgt. Jack Oliver, a 24-year veteran of the Houston Police Department, held a news conference to announce he was preparing to undergo a sex change operation. Sitting alongside him in support was the president of the Houston Police Officers' Union.

The change has come slowly, in fits and starts. Voters overwhelmingly passed a state constitutional ban on gay marriage last year. Yet Houston has two openly lesbian elected officials: city controller Annise Parker, who has been elected five times to a city office, and councilwoman Sue Lovell.

In 2005, 49% of respondents surveyed in Houston believed that homosexuality was "morally wrong," down from 59% in 1997. "This is a good-ol'-boy town that has changed a lot, but not as much as we'd like," Valinski said.

In the meantime, those put off by Garden Guy's policy can protest with their wallets, longtime gay activist and former evangelical Baptist Ray Hill said. "The Garden Guy isn't the only landscape company in the Yellow Pages," he said.

lianne.hart@latimes.com

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I'm wondering how the landscapers will feel if they turned up at a hospital and were refused service by the gay triage nurse because he/she refused to treat heterosexuals

Oh yes... medical professionals are not permitted to refuse service

These people make me ill
 
My guess is these landscapers probably disapprove of lots of different kinds of people: bi-racial couples, unmarried couples living together, non-American born couples, divorced and remarried couples, couples with French poodles (oops, that one is understandable:p ). These people are just self righteous, judgmental bigots.
 
I find myself recalling an early episode of 'Soap' when the gay character (Jodie?) played by Billy Crystal pursues his wife to Texas where she has run back to her mother with their baby. Jodie rings the doorbell and his mother-in-law who answers the door keeps staring at him. Finally in exasperation he says:
'Why do you keep staring at me? Haven't you ever seen a homosexual before?'
'Nope', she replies, 'leastways, not a live one.'
 
It amazes me on how much outrage 'open minded' people have for stories like this until those same people get into the privacy of a voting booth.
 
I'm wondering how the landscapers will feel if they turned up at a hospital and were refused service by the gay triage nurse because he/she refused to treat heterosexuals

Oh yes... medical professionals are not permitted to refuse service

These people make me ill

Actually, wasn't there a law passed in Michigan (I believe) that doctors CAN refuse non-emergency care to people based on moral objections?

That's all fine and good until those asses realize it can go both ways.
 
I hope every single one of their kids grows up gay and the most bitter one gets to choose the old folk's home.
 
I hope every single one of their kids grows up gay and the most bitter one gets to choose the old folk's home.

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In seriousness, I saw this on Yahoo this afternoon. A (gay) man they interviewed had what I consider to be the best response - they aren't going to change their views on homosexuality, but they may change their business practices if people stop using them. To quote him, "There are plenty of other landscapers in the yellow pages." (or something close to that, haha).

If you live in Houston, NOT using their services and telling all of your STRAIGHT friends not to either is probably the most effective response. Though it sure is fun to bitch about it in a forum.
 
Sadly this bit says it all to me:
The Farbers are clear about their convictions in a "Learn About Garden Guy" page of their website ( http://www.garden-guy.com ). "The God-ordained institution of marriage is under attack in courts across the nation, and your help is needed," reads a tagline that refers readers to http://www.nogaymarriage.com

Yes it's that religion thing again, it's these sort of people who turned me into an agnostic and my brothers and sister too, they went to monastic school and convent respectively and fortunately could see indoctrination for what it was. You will never change these people just exercise your rights not to give them your money.
 
Actually, wasn't there a law passed in Michigan (I believe) that doctors CAN refuse non-emergency care to people based on moral objections?

That's all fine and good until those asses realize it can go both ways.
I could be wrong here, so someone please correct me if I am, but i believe this is sort of the "basis" under which the issue of giving the injection for use in the death penalty is being protested.


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