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LGBTQ? 3 too many letters

I only care for the G, tbh.
 
Maybe trans people's issues and agendas are different. But I think there's too much of mutual concern and benefit to drop the "T" in LGBT.

As long as trans people are being discriminated against (by executive order, yet!), in danger for their very lives, and (more humdrum but quite vital) not allowed to pee in the gender-specific restroom, I stand with trans people to have those rights.

I do believe trans people support "the gay agenda" - marriage equality, nondiscrimination in housing and the workplace. So is there a problem?
 
Let's go through a couple thing here.

This article references the LGB Alliance, with anyone familiar with TERFs, this is them and this is what JK Rowling herself has been a part of. Easy to find her shit and how it is problematic. If you are wondering how far down the shit hole she has gone:

https://twitter.com/GcRacism/status/1317515480425443334

If you don't use twitter or whatever and don't even open it. JK Rowling is responding to someone named Bethany Mandel, that she finds "comfort" in them. Someone who wrote an article about how we should befriend Neo Nazis. We know where that goes.
 
There is a lot of misunderstanding about the call letters. WLGBT isn't a very popular station.

First, it is a political caucus. That's it. It's not a subdivision, not a community, and not a subpopulation with a monolithic set of values or perspectives. What we have in common is a political goal to see full equality in the law for our constituencies.

A good parallel would be the U.S. Democratic Party. It's an alliance. The big tent encompasses feminists, racial minorities, labor unions, ecologists, gays, and others. That doesn't mean a wealthy white gay member and a black preacher from Atlanta have too much in common in their views about religion or gay rights. It just means they have more in common as a caucus than they do with other parties that have any chance of getting elected in Atlanta.

And, a wise caucus speaks on the platform issues they can speak strongly on, and saves the disagreements for non-party venues, else the caucus presents as weak.

LGBT has long been a caucus with deep divisions. Many, many lesbians and gays do not even endorse transgender surgery, although we defend the right for an individual to make that decision and to be protected in society and in law. And we have seen on this board more than a few attacks on bisexuality, condemning it as little more than closeted homosexuality, so let's not get all panty-bunched about the demand to respect everyone equally. That goes double for the vaginaphobic comments that are perennially posted.

I've lived in four corners of this nation. I've not seen any tight social community of gays and lesbians and transgendered and bisexual people. I have seen social groups where they gathered politely, but even in those selective gatherings there were obvious fractures and divisions and even antipathies. They did serve to represent, in a loose way, the larger LGBT populations.

But, be very clear. No one speaks with any authority in defining what is or isn't an LGBT value, political view, standard, etc. Representatives are nominal, and are not elected by any national poll. That means, by definition, the representation tends to be outspoken and to overreach often in the effort to shape what LGBT should be.

On this forum, many is the time when a few have posted propaganda to disown public gay figures who have not been poster children for some member's litmus tests. It mattered not a whit. Sexuality is sexuality, not an oath of political allegiance.

The call letters can be as long as a DNA strand for all I care. I don't use them, and refer to gay and gays. When I'm voting, I'll be falling into a caucus that inherently includes them all, as even combined, we constitute a very weak minority indeed, both numerically and politically.

We would do well to remember that we advanced in gay marriage not by political success as evidenced in legislatures, but by judicial actions. Just as the women's suffrage movement languished a century in the struggle, we have yet more decades to become fully equals in society.
 
I usually only use homos. Even the term 'gay' means nothing to me.

But it doesn't personally cost anything to read the letters LGBTQ if people want to use them. And if someone thinks they are 'gay', great.

The whole idea behind this isn't about 'community', it is about aggregation and support when fighting for rights and recognition. And as has been mentioned, the string of letters can be as long as people want it to be or need it to be if it indicates enough collective affinity to get something done or prevent the erasure of any group of people based on sexual or gender identity.
 
we can debate if the T should have been added---but the Q is ridiculous and there will probably be other letters added on as who and what a individual identifies as-- demands representation:rolleyes:
 
I think having it as LGBT is the way it should be
 
people who identify as "queer" are already represented by one of the LGBT letters - or they are not homosexual and don't need to be represented by our community - I will need an example of someone who is homosexual and is not represented by L- G - B- T to understand how Q is necessary...
 
^ Q represents questioning isn't it?
 
Don't mind it so much as an adjective, but resent it used as a noun.
 
^
I think you're right about +. I should have added the +. I've assumed that Q is for those too-cool-for-school types who may be any or all of the the other letters, but who think the categories sound insufficiently vanguard or hip. Not that I would actually know.
 
We just need a symbol, then we can request they say "the acronym formerly known as LGBT?".
 
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