Libya to Become Islamist State

[Kulindahr]

Isn't democracy respecting the will of the people? If so, if they want a theocracy, who are we to stand in their way?

And what of the lamb, who disagrees with the wolves' vote about dinner?

 

[Telstra]

It is up to the people really.

If they are not happy with the government they will revolt again or the country is no good in the eyes of other countries.

 

[Just_Believe18]

http://news.yahoo.com/sharia-law-declaration-raises-concerns-libya-174347939.html

The announcement that Islamic sharia law will be the basis of legislation in newly liberated Libya has raised concerns, especially among women, despite Islamists insisting moderation will prevail.
Interim leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil said on Sunday, during his speech to the nation in Benghazi to formally declare the country's liberation from the ousted regime of Moammer Kadhafi, that sharia would be Libya's principal law.
"Any law that violates sharia is null and void legally," he said, citing as an example the law on marriage passed during the slain dictator's 42-year tenure that imposed restrictions on polygamy, which is permitted in Islam.

Here's an update on the matter. The new Libyan leadership insists the new government will still follow democratic principles and freedom of expression. However, those promises are vague whereas some of the more specific examples of Sharia Law they had in mind are: re-establishing polygamy, ending the laws on divorce and marriage, etc.

 

[Kulindahr]

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The real Islamists don't mind; they're patient. They'll let the country get used to the forms of liberty while they slowly work (as the fedgov has done in the US) to take away the substance, replacing it with total submission.

I got reminded again recently of their implacable determination when a friend sent me a video about what Islam believes.

 

[cocksucker4use]

I agree with those who are not surprised at this turn of events. The Neo Cons who advised Dubya into Iraq did so with the belief that the people would embrace their liberators and form a Western-style democracy. Similarly, when you pull the plug on decades of dictatorship in Libya expecting the population to vote in a democracy, it ain't happening.

Libyan society is structured among 20 or so tribes. In modern times, Libya was under control the Ottoman Empire, 'liberated' by the Italians in 1911 as a soon to be fascist colony. The modern state of Libya is an artificial entity created after WWII, which soon became the Kingdom of Libya. The discovery of oil and wealth it provided led to the total corruption of the government, benefiting only the elites. Gadaffi leads a military coup as the "good guy" in 1969. Fast forward over decades of an erratic, brutal dictatorship to 2011. So, these are "free" people with no idea of what democracy is, or how it would work, or even feel. The one thing all Libyans have in common is that they are Sunni Moslems. A fledgling government probably identifies Islam as the common unifying element that can bring Libyans together. The alternative is more civil war.

 

[kallipolis]

The people of Libya are well educated with many having studied, or are studying in foreign countries where they absorb ideas that embrace democratic values.

It is premature to believe that Libya will embrace Islamic, theocratic practices with Iran as the example that the majority of Muslims prefer to reject; even young Iranians, when considering the enormous numbers of young Iranians fleeing Iran to settle in Europe.

 

[kallipolis]

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The real Islamists don't mind; they're patient. They'll let the country get used to the forms of liberty while they slowly work (as the fedgov has done in the US) to take away the substance, replacing it with total submission.

I got reminded again recently of their implacable determination when a friend sent me a video about what Islam believes.

In reality the one theocratic Islamic state, Iran is even now facing disintegration from within as a result of mounting pressures to introduce liberal reforms to improve the economy, and to create a more representative form of government that responds to the needs of its people.

The Tunisian people have elected a moderate Muslim party into government.

In Egypt the various Muslim parties have been very evident by their participation in the ongoing process to democratise government.

Turkey's moderate Muslim government has garnered enormous electoral support as a result of its policies creating a functioning democratic system, free from military interference, inspiring a market led economic renaissance that has boosted the economic well being of the Turkish people.

We should be acknowledging the successes, and progress of the democratic movements in many Muslim countries, rather than focusing on fears that the election of a Muslim party into government represents a retro grade step.

 

[Jack Springer]

The people of Libya are well educated with many having studied, or are studying in foreign countries where they absorb ideas that embrace democratic values.

It is premature to believe that Libya will embrace Islamic, theocratic practices with Iran as the example that the majority of Muslims prefer to reject; even young Iranians, when considering the enormous numbers of young Iranians fleeing Iran to settle in Europe.

Iran was an extremely well-educated state in 1978. Many had attended college in the USA and other countries.

Some of those foreign educated people led the rebellion to establish a strict Islamic state -- so your argument doesn't hold much water for me.

 

[kallipolis]

Iran was an extremely well-educated state in 1978. Many had attended college in the USA and other countries.

Some of those foreign educated people led the rebellion to establish a strict Islamic state -- so your argument doesn't hold much water for me.

My opinion is not based upon the perceptions that you have which have prompted you to refer to the Islamic revolution that removed the Shah over thirty years ago.

I am referring to current events, and current times which evidence a people tired of the Islamic Republic of Iran Government to where the state police apparatus is repressing the people of Iran, sufficiently to witness the mass exit of tens of thousands of young Iranian men each year, en route to Europe to escape poverty, and the repressive regime.

 

[chrisrobin]

Bottom line...they wanted him gone and [STRIKE]as we've seen in the past,[/STRIKE] supporting tyrants [STRIKE]has often[/STRIKE] comes back to bite us in the butt.

We would never support tyrants unless they were the enemy of our enemy.
1. The Shah of Iran
2. Batista
3. Diem
4. The Duvaliers (father and son)
5. Tito
6. Saddam Hussein (see photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with him) during Iran-Iraq War.)
7. Noreiga

I was gracious enough to omit George W. Bush from the list.