Little known facts

[belamyi]

Watch a video on burning trash to create energy. They’re not just lighting it and letting it go. They superheat the garbage to a point where there is virtually nothing left.

Exactly: SUPERheat.

That was the point behind Kul's comment: he pointed out that corpses do not have fuelling capacity, rather the contrary, you need to fuel more energy to burn them down, and you are just assuming 'oh, well, since they are already using all that energy'... and my point is, simply, as effective as it may be, how efficient and sustainable that process is...

Clearer now? I was not questioning the methods, only their applicability


You American people always seem to take for granted the availability of the resources, from time to fuel, employed to perform a task or achieve an end, and too often seem to reduce efficiency to "speed" and expediency, no matter the cost, and ignore the carried cost of that apparently efficient practice. Some people should focus more on that kind or research to avoid the danger to appear like the true fools.

 

[Vannie]

I'll be turned into cabbage fertilizer?

 

[belamyi]

Watch a video on burning trash to create energy. They’re not just lighting it and letting it go. They superheat the garbage to a point where there is virtually nothing left.

Takes more energy to burn a human body than you get from it. The better course is composting, turning corpses into soil. I think it's only legal in three states do far, though.

Exactly: SUPERheat.

That was the point behind Kul's comment: he pointed out that corpses do not have fuelling capacity, rather the contrary, you need to fuel more energy to burn them down, and you are just assuming 'oh, well, since they are already using all that energy'... and my point is, simply, as effective as it may be, how efficient and sustainable that process is...

Clearer now? I was not questioning the methods, only their applicability


You American people always seem to take for granted the availability of the resources, from time to fuel, employed to perform a task or achieve an end, and too often seem to reduce efficiency to "speed" and expediency, no matter the cost, and ignore the carried cost of that apparently efficient practice. Some people should focus more on that kind or research to avoid the danger to appear like the true fools.

Kul's comment: economy, efficiency, the energy needed to perform a task.

Al: the mere technology...

bel: of course there is technology... from the moment you can reduce whole cities, with the people in them, to ashes, you can engineer the same power in a smaller container.

But this was about the economic feasibility, not mere technological one... what sort of people you will be disposing of to burn along with trash; who would invest in a business with the technical ability to mix "your loved ones" (cats or people) with, literally, rubbish.

In any case, I was more interested, much more than the moral or prissy whims, in the cost of it all: if the Western world had the technology and, obviously the technical ability, to build microchip plants, but decide to develop a bigger plan in which logistics made everything more complicated but cheaper, what would be the use, interest or urge of technologies that would need time, energy and money to perform something that can come just naturally.
All those trash mountains in Africa or continents of filth in the Pacific could be "easily" burn down at high temperatures... along with obnoxious pests like belamo ... but then, why nobody is doing that, including or exluding the corpses?


Once one has "researched", it is useful to keep thinking... otherwise "technology" is not part of science, but a mere skill like cooking, or a subject of blind, mindless faith like The Bible.

 

[Alistair]

Exactly: SUPERheat.

That was the point behind Kul's comment: he pointed out that corpses do not have fuelling capacity, rather the contrary, you need to fuel more energy to burn them down, and you are just assuming 'oh, well, since they are already using all that energy'... and my point is, simply, as effective as it may be, how efficient and sustainable that process is...

Clearer now? I was not questioning the methods, only their applicability


You American people always seem to take for granted the availability of the resources, from time to fuel, employed to perform a task or achieve an end, and too often seem to reduce efficiency to "speed" and expediency, no matter the cost, and ignore the carried cost of that apparently efficient practice. Some people should focus more on that kind or research to avoid the danger to appear like the true fools.

OMG and my point was you wouldn’t be doing it with the bodies alone. who really gives a fuck what is done with their body when you’re gone.

 

[belamyi]

OMG and my point was you wouldn’t be doing it with the bodies alone. who really gives a fuck what is done with their body when you’re gone.

Ziilions of people do


Just like who really gives a fuck what happens to their bodies and lives when you're done with workers That's how business works everywhere, doesn't it... since Adam.

That's really rich coming from the citizen of a country making fucking parks out of cemeteries... like they make feasts out of mourning ceremonies

Compared to the European style

Actually, it is not about the corpses: cemeteries are about the living. One of those obvious things that get over people's heads.

 

[belamyi]

OMG and my point was you wouldn’t be doing it with the bodies alone.

No: your point is that you care only about the isolated process of burning down, not where does it fit in the larger one of employing that technology to maintain it and keep it economically viable, that is, make it feasible other than in mere theory or costly practice... which as my point.

 

[belamyi]

Human corpses are a huge business, and that was ultimately my point: that's the HUGE money behind the giving a fuck about bodies when people "are gone".

In Spain millions of people would be petty over cents for whatever, but they would waste thousands through their lives when thinking of themselves as future dead bodies.

 

[Alistair]

Human corpses are a huge business, and that was ultimately my point: that's the HUGE money behind the giving a fuck about bodies when people "are gone".

Actually my point as well. instead of wasting land on a burial plot or on a cremation throw the body in the garbage. People make too big of a deal over a dead body.

 

[belamyi]

Actually my point as well. instead of wasting land on a burial plot or on a cremation throw the body in the garbage. People make too big of a deal over a dead body.

That's a very European view (are you sure you are not European ), because who cares about wasting land, or anything else, in an imperial federation of almost 10 million sq km of metropolitan area, plus several millions more they can rent or negociate to use for their own needs anywhere else on the planet? Americans have been wasting resources for the past 200 years...

Zillions of people make too big a deal over a dead body which, again, is not a dead body, but their own feelings surrounding that corpse, even when they are feelings coming THROUGH social pressure, just like there are zillions who make too big a deal about alcohol, sport competitions, birthdays, love, sex, The Future, posterity or stupid cats or whatever other speechless beast or pest.

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Again, it is always ultimately about themselves... and they are alive... with economies to run with something, like they fuel whims with whatever.

 

[Alistair]

That's a very European view (are you sure you are not European ), because who cares about wasting land, or anything else, in an imperial federation of almost 10 million sq km of metropolitan area, plus several millions more they can rent or negociate to use for their own needs anywhere else on the planet?

Zillions of people make too big a deal over a dead body which, again, is not a dead body, but their own feelings surrounding that corpse, even when they are feelings coming THROUGH social pressure, just like there are zillions who make too big a deal about alcohol or stupid cats or whatever other speechless beast or pest.

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Again, it is always ultimately about themselves... and they are alive... with economies to run with something, like they fuel whims with whatever.

You completely ruin your argument by using zillions

 

[belamyi]

You completely ruin your argument by using zillions

Ok, let's just say thousands of millions

Your argument, that is, your skepticism about all those "zillions" caring for how the dead are treated, is like the people who would believe that freedom, education and the right to vote would help them make wiser in their political choices

 

[Alistair]

I'll be turned into cabbage fertilizer?

Don’t worry about that, no one eats cabbage except you

 

[belamyi]

Yes, I know Simple English is usually taken as Idiotic/1-bit English

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Don’t worry about that, no one eats cabbage except you

And me! (must be a bald thing)

The rest of you use them as dildos.

 

[Alistair]

And me! (must be a bald thing)

The rest of you use them as dildos.

I don’t know if we’re talking about the same thing

 

[gsdx]

A not-so-little-known-fact: Another thread has been commandeered and taken totally off topic.

 

[belamyi]

I don’t know if we’re talking about the same thing

Being bald and eating cabbage?

And not being bald and using them as dildos?

 

[Alistair]

Being bald and eating cabbage?

And not being bald and using them as dildos?

You do know what a cabbage looks like, right? Maybe the sloppy hos you hang with could use one as a dildo but not anyone I know!

 

[belamyi]

You do know what a cabbage looks like, right? Maybe the sloppy hos you hang with could use one as a dildo but not anyone I know!

I said using them as dildos, not be shaped like a conventional dildo.. you do know what modern Ben Wa balls look like, right?

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Maybe the sloppy hos you hang with could use one as a dildo but not anyone I know!

I just know how slutty and weird Anglos can get

 

[belamyi]

Ben Wa balls were originally egg-shaped, and had no strings.

 

[belamyi]

To a Spanish-speaker, Franklin Delano Roosevelt sounds "Franklin Oftheanus Roosevelt".


What! it's over 7 billion against barely 500 million: pretty little known.