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Lord have mercy on us, 80% overweight or obese coming!

Why would anyone be surprised?

Aging population, less exercise in all age groups, less physical labour, garbage HFC and starch diets.
 
The obesity epidemic is a major cause of health problems, from diabetes, heart disease, to early onset cancers. The underlying problem is portion size. When I grew up in the 1950s/1960s a hamburger with roll and toppings was 4 oz. Now it's 12 oz. Fries 3 oz then, 6 oz now. Soda 7 oz, 30oz now. A 16 oz steak was cut up for a family of 6 for dinner. Now its a single serving.

The US government spent millions developing "food triangles" (now abandon) to promote nutrition. What a dumbass idea. Nobody followed them. What they should have been promoting is healthy portion size. Despite eating plenty of unhealthy foods in the 50s and 60s virtually no one was obese, as the portions were so reasonable.

I'm in my 70s and am only 10 lbs over an ideal body weight, and I'm comfortably in the normal weight range, despite being genetically predisposed to obesity. I am able to keep in shape by eating like its 1960. Typical dinner is 4oz meat or fish and a moderate serving of veges.
 
it's the shit companies are allowed to put in our food...they don't have this in Europe Don't worry tho, RFK Jr. is going to save us...
 
Our food portions are very large, and the junk and chemicals in our food are making people overweight and sick. I hope RFK Jr. can straighten up the mess in our foods.

I know COVID plays a huge part in it: Nobody is active anymore; nobody wants to go outside. You have people who work at home and get everything delivered to their house, and they never go outside. I know a guy he works from home and right after work plays video games and gets all his food and groceries delivered to his apartment.
 
Stop blaming it on chemicals, processed food, fast food and portion sizes. Real food is easily available and calorie for calorie less expensive than the prepackaged stuff. It comes down to proper judgement and discipline, both of which are in lamentably short supply these days. It's not the corporations and commercials, it's stupid, lazy, irresponsible people. Sick of them, their whining, and their contention some malevalent entity is responsible for their plight. But mostly I'm just sick of looking at them.
 
Stop blaming it on chemicals, processed food, fast food and portion sizes. Real food is easily available and calorie for calorie less expensive than the prepackaged stuff. It comes down to proper judgement and discipline, both of which are in lamentably short supply these days. It's not the corporations and commercials, it's stupid, lazy, irresponsible people. Sick of them, their whining, and their contention some malevalent entity is responsible for their plight. But mostly I'm just sick of looking at them.
This isn't true at all.

Processed food is cheap. It doesn't matter about calorie for calorie economics. A frozen pizza is a cheaper alternative than the equivalent in 'real food'.

And many Americans live in virtual food deserts where fresh vegetables and fruits are not stocked in nearby stores.

We know what our real food grocery bill looks like for two people with a diet that includes meat, fish, dairy, fruits and vegetables. When we make a 'real foods' dish, it isn't cheap, but we are also fortunate to have the skills and the resources and the time to stretch out the leftover ingredients and then the freezers to store the meals in.

The processed food industry got people addicted to foods that provide a dopamine hit with msg decades ago and even though they all disguise it now, still pack processed foods with it. We are also hooked on convenieince with many families having both parents working and no longer having a full day to prepare meals from scratch.

What North America, and increasingly europe and Britain, (from what I have experienced and see), really need is home economics and cooking and processing of foods to be taught from grade 1 on. With adults taking some of the same courses.
 
it's the shit companies are allowed to put in our food...they don't have this in Europe Don't worry tho, RFK Jr. is going to save us...
It's not the companies, it's still the people themselves who eat such crap. Advertising for this should be banned - and children should learn to cook 'properly' at school.
Smoking was also 'prohibited' when health care costs for lung cancer became too much.
 
This isn't true at all.

Processed food is cheap. It doesn't matter about calorie for calorie economics. A frozen pizza is a cheaper alternative than the equivalent in 'real food'.

And many Americans live in virtual food deserts where fresh vegetables and fruits are not stocked in nearby stores.

We know what our real food grocery bill looks like for two people with a diet that includes meat, fish, dairy, fruits and vegetables. When we make a 'real foods' dish, it isn't cheap, but we are also fortunate to have the skills and the resources and the time to stretch out the leftover ingredients and then the freezers to store the meals in.

The processed food industry got people addicted to foods that provide a dopamine hit with msg decades ago and even though they all disguise it now, still pack processed foods with it. We are also hooked on convenieince with many families having both parents working and no longer having a full day to prepare meals from scratch.

What North America, and increasingly europe and Britain, (from what I have experienced and see), really need is home economics and cooking and processing of foods to be taught from grade 1 on. With adults taking some of the same courses.
A few years ago I looked at the US "food stamp" allocation (now a credit card) to see if I could eat a good diet within the set amount and found that I could do so with a moderate amount of planning and avoiding splurges. I was fine.
 
A few years ago I looked at the US "food stamp" allocation (now a credit card) to see if I could eat a good diet within the set amount and found that I could do so with a moderate amount of planning and avoiding splurges. I was fine.
Good for you. Elitist wank.

Not everyone has access to the same knowledge that you do, and calling people lazy and stupid is honestly, the lazy and stupid reaction to have.
 
Preprocessed foods are a lot easier and quicker to prepare, especially for 2 income families.
 
If the large number of fat people I see in American airports studying their cellphones or laptops have enough time to surf the internet as well as have surplus money to travel, they should have the wherewithal to understand the huge number of health issues that being fat creates, and to find ways to loose weight. This is not some secret, hermetic body of knowledge available to a small elite. How condescending it is to think of fat people as children who don't know any better or innocents led astray by evil corporations and drug companies. People didn't used to be fat in the numbers they now are. In the 50s, comically "fat" actors Jackie Gleason and Lou Costello now look about average. Remember: fat people rarely start out fat, they become fat. With rare exceptions, the grossly fat couples I see with young children have sons and daughters with well-proportioned bodies.
 
People have a diet that has priorities.
1. Convenience, something quick and easy. This appeals to the single mom (or dad) after a day at work. Heat it and serve it. Most of these items are ultra processed foods. There are expensive but verry easy. Also, not at all healthy and will pack on the pounds.
2. Laziness, fast food is at the top of the list. Even worse than the convenience food when it comes to nutrition. Also, more expensive. We can add having a pizza delivered to this list as well.
3. Thriftiness, (this is my category) buying chicken in 10-pound bags for $7.90, (these are hind quarters) and separating them into storage bags for use in soups or casserole dishes. Purchasing hamburger in large quantities and dividing it up for use in chile con carne, Spanish rice, spaghetti and other cheap dishes. All of these produce enough for boundless amounts of leftovers. I budget about $1.50 per person for each meal. I give some thought to caloric intake and health, however that is not my priority.
4. The real chefs, those who buy fresh produce and would never go down the canned food isle. They make their own stock, their own chile and spaghetti sauces and have a cabinet full of spices that I have never heard of. They are acutely aware of healthy food(s) so fish is a regular on the menu. This takes effort and some studious work.

The above is not presented as an exhaustive list, I have left out the extremes such as vegetarian or vegan diets, which are ironically probably the healthiest if supplemented by proper vitamins and minerals.
So, what is the answer to the obesity problem?
1. Prevention, it is hard to lose weight. Keep kids away from junk foods. As adults stay away from junk foods. All unhealthy foods should bare vivid warnings just like cigarette packages do.
2. Exercise, a good brisk walk daily combined with keeping track of caloric intake does wonders.
3. Consistency, you didn't gain it overnight and you won't lose it overnight.
4. Real goals, forget the "washboard" abs. look. The better you feel the better you will look. Being able to breath easier, tying your shoes and walk up a flight of stairs is encouraging.

For those of us in somewhat decent shape let's not body shame others.
 
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