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Lost season 4

Entertaining finale as always. But not quite the "WTF" finale compared to previous finales. Most of the 2 hours felt like it was only connecting some dots; the surprises weren't really shockers. The Desmond/Penelope reunion was a bit anticlimatic. But the big question being, is she working for her father so did the Six just fall into a trap?

Michael is likely gone for good. Jin apparently is dead too, but it's more unclear. I suppose he could have jumped ship in time to save himself. But there is no more island for him to swim to as Sawyer did. They tricked us thinking that Sawyer was going to sacrifice himself. But I'm glad he will be sticking around. Locke may be dead in the future. But obviously his character on the show will live on.

The Keamy bomb device on his arm was no shock. It was obvious what he was planning when we saw him strap it on a few episodes ago.

Perhaps the freakiest part is how we saw Ben blow a hole into some other frozen location before moving the island. The island moved, he didn't. So the big question is, where the heck is he?

I think for the last two seasons I'm going to stop over analyzing the show. Alot of the answers we have been getting haven't been quite as deep as I have been digging.
 
Has anyone got a theory on Jack's father? There was weird when he showed up to tell Michael that "it's time to go."? And is there a consensus that Claire is, in fact, dead? There is hardly anyone on the island whom we know for them to show next season--there are the 3 newbies who showed up this year--Daniel, Miles and red-head lady, there is Sawyer, Juliet, Rose and Bernard, Locke and Claire (?)---am I missing anyone?
 
I think they need to get Locke back to the island so Jacob can use his body and Locke can 'become' Jacob, a la Jack's Father, Christian.
 
doctorwellington said:
even though the freighter blew up, jin didnt die. Cuz remembr a few episodes back they show him after the island trying to get a teddy panda for sun, or his boss
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No, you totally misunderstood. They were showing two DIFFERENT storylines to throw you off. One (Jin's) happened in the past. The other (Sun's) happened in the future.
 
doctorwellington said:
even though the freighter blew up, jin didnt die. Cuz remembr a few episodes back they show him after the island trying to get a teddy panda for sun, or his boss
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That was a flashback to before they were on the island. It was a tricky show where you thought Jin was buying the panda for his preganant wife, then, late in the show, we find it was for his boss. That same ep is where Jin and Hurley visited the grave.
 
I'm surprised how many people are either looking at this show only superficially, or reading too much into it. Not everything that happens can be taken at face value. On the other hand, some people are making things even more compex then they really are. Kate for all intensive purposes IS Aaron's mother. As far as she knows, there is no way of going back to the island, and she was entrusted (by the situation) to raise Aaron as her own. Ben, as mover of the island, couldn't move WITH it, so he was "transported" elsewhere when it did move. The episode earlier that showed him arriving in the desert.

Did anyone catch the fact that the redheaded woman from the freighter, was born ON the island, and had finally come "home". She might have a bigger role next season (I hope).
 
JOHNLKSGUYS said:
Ben, as mover of the island, couldn't move WITH it, so he was "transported" elsewhere when it did move. The episode earlier that showed him arriving in the desert.
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Your connection is absolutely absolutely correct. Right before moving the island he put on an eskimo coat with the orchid station emblem on it and the name Halliwax. He then fell down a ladder and cut his arm. Back in the earlier episode "The Shape of Things to Come" he suddenly appeared in the Sahara desert. He was wearing the same exact Halliwax coat and and the same cut on his arm. So he definitely was transported from somewhere under the orchid to the Sahara. Good Catch.
 
I know people want to have hope Jin is alive, as I myself would like to but the spoilers said three Losties from season 1 would be bitting the dust and at least one of the deaths would be significant. I think we saw all that. Which means, on the more hopeful side, that Claire might not be dead.

However, I doubt very much we'll find out what happened to her until season six, as my money is on her as being the female from season 1 that had some contract negotiation trouble and won't be back next season.

I love how they have yet to explain the four toed statue, why Aaron is so feared by psychics or Locke seeing taller ghost Walt (who also apparently is 'special' and still unexplained) dripping wet informing him he had work to do. I wonder if they ever will.

Someone mentioned Rose having heard the black smoke monster sound before thinking it sounded familiar and if you're a freak like me and soak up all the Lost theories, one that's been going around since season 1 but definitely more lately is the idea that everything that is happening has already happened to everyone before. The fact that Charlotte has obviously been on the island before as well as Dan and I'm starting to believe it more.

Hmmm...anyone actually think the 'him' Claire was referring to when threatening Kate not to bring him back wasn't Aaron. My money is on Locke or Ben.

I love how the other Others had duplicates of all of our Losties. The Asian couple, Rose, a Sawyer, and I suppose Richard is Jack. I wonder who their Locke is? Where the hell are the children? They said we'd see the children again. Then again, they said Greg Grunberg came back to film scenes as the pilot from the...pilot episode so eh.

I'm rambling now. I'll stop.
 
Sun wants to help Widmore find the island so that she can find her husband. So, I'm sure that Jin is still alive. Charlotte was BORN on the island, but left it (as a child?)----this is based on what she said about finding her home. John's work was to relay the message about moving the island. And maybe to become the new leader of the Others.
 
Qixote said:
Your connection is absolutely absolutely correct. Right before moving the island he put on an eskimo coat with the orchid station emblem on it and the name Halliwax. He then fell down a ladder and cut his arm. Back in the earlier episode "The Shape of Things to Come" he suddenly appeared in the Sahara desert. He was wearing the same exact Halliwax coat and and the same cut on his arm. So he definitely was transported from somewhere under the orchid to the Sahara. Good Catch.
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Also, those with an eagle eye also noticed that steam was coming off Ben when he is first shown lying on the desert ground. Obviously a hint that he had just come from a very cold place.

They didn't explain the orange liquid he threw up though. I was hoping they would show him drink something before he turned the wheel. Or if they did, I missed it.

Although I think people have read too much into the colour of his vomit and it was just normal sick, caused by the move to a different place and time.

I think (and hope) that Jin is dead. Never been a big fan of him. I never used to like Sun either but I like the change in character she's made, so I hope she doesn't jump ship and become a baddie.
 
Sorry about the double post, but I wanted to add another one of my theories.

I think Ben had a plan when he turned the wheel and knew he'd be taken off the island.

My theory is that he knows the island still needs them (obviously, as he told Jack they all need to go back together), and he's going to hitch a ride with them, because if they're all together and the island takes their plane down again, Ben will be on it and he'll be back on that island.

Also, I think it's been made clear that Locke doesn't want to leave the island, and I don't think he would ever voluntarily leave it, so another theory is that sometime in the future, he ends up having to turn the wheel as well. Maybe he messes up or something. I think that when Ben turned the wheel, it took the island BACK in time to when the island had it's original inhabitants, and they have a war or something, and the only way Locke can save the island is to move it again, meaning he MUST be taken off the island.

Then when he's teleported back to the mainland, he kills himself because he's depressed and wants to go back, but doesn't know how.
 
Everybody seem to think that moving the island back in time was meant to change what happened ON the island. No, the island was moved in space and time to keep it hidden from the people OFF the island looking for it. I have a feeling that when the Oceanic Six get back to the island, that the three years in their time were more (maybe eight?) ON the island.
 
Time traveling bunnies? Any theories about this? Somehow that portal must have been connected with the wheel down below. Don't put any metal in there, but Ben loaded it up with all the metal he could find. For what? Was that portal somehow a control to prevent random time jumps? Did it move forward and he shorted it out so it would move backward? They made a big deal of but like always never explained it.
 
cityboy-stl said:
Time traveling bunnies? Any theories about this? Somehow that portal must have been connected with the wheel down below. Don't put any metal in there, but Ben loaded it up with all the metal he could find. For what? Was that portal somehow a control to prevent random time jumps? Did it move forward and he shorted it out so it would move backward? They made a big deal of but like always never explained it.
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Once again, people are making events in the show more complex than they are. :)
Ben loaded up the portal with metal objects so that (like foil in a microwave) he could easily get to the wall behind/below the room, by blowing a hole in it. Quicker than digging. I think this show does sometimes give people headaches because it throws so much at you at once, and lets you figure out the little detail on your own without feeling the need to explain everything.
 
MadeToWreck said:
There are rumours going around that one of the cast members has had her contract 'suspended' (for story reasons) and won't be appearing in the upcoming season, but will be back for the final one. All likelihood points to it being Claire.


It was from Eko's flashback when the church sent him to interview that guy because his daughter was believed to have come back from the dead or something, and he admitted to him that he's a fraud psychic.
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Thanks for your explanation. I don't remember much about Eko's flashbacks, I don't know why.

I was a little upset about Claire not being in the season finale. I really like Emilie De Ravin since Roswell.
When she appeared in Kate's house (in Aaron's bedroom) her face seemed a bit "swollen", did anyone else notice it? :confused:
 
They still haven't really explained why the plain crashed. They gave us that excuse that Desmond failing to input the magical numbers caused it to come down. However as we've seen many times, the people on that plane are each connected to each other in some mysterious way. I feel like there is another reason that they either have yet to tell us or won't ever tell us because they think they've already explained.
 
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