Lyndon B. Johnson's tapes reveal Richard Nixon's treasonous act

[White Eagle]

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I'm waiting to see if page 2 is any better.

 

[Benvolio]

The real question is, what evidence is their that Nixon encouraged the South to withdraw from the talks. So far it is only an assertion by BBC.

 

[chrisrobin]

The real question is, what evidence is their that Nixon encouraged the South to withdraw from the talks. So far it is only an assertion by BBC.

The real question? Due to the Freedom of Information Act, the conversation between Nixon and Everett McKinley Dirksen (R. Illinois) tape has been released, expressing the above "Republicon Dirty Tricks".... more than only an assertion by the BBC. The real question is your inability to provide actual facts here.

Nice try.

 

[CoolBlue71]

Richard Nixon's successor, Gerald Ford, one said something to this effect: "Any man who needs an enemies list, to keep track of his enemies, has too many enemies."

Nixon was paranoid and he was corrupt.

Turning points in the Republican party, in the ruthlessness, were with Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. 1968 and 1980 were Republican pickup years with the presidency, but part of what sank the incumbent Democratic party of those elections were Vietnam and the Iran Hostage Crisis. Nixon and Reagan didn't want them resolved before Election Day because it would not have otherwise been beneficial; though I do think it wouldn't have mattered. The Democrats blew up in 1968; Jimmy Carter, who was unpopular in his party (like Lyndon Johnson), had inflation having sunk his presidency before the hostage situation.

I recommend viewing The Presidents, which was a special (it gets rebroadcast occasionally) from the A&E/History Channel programmer. It's available on DVD and does a good job, in part, with covering what sank Nixon's presidency. He was re-elected in 1972 with 49 states and 521 electoral votes (a faithless elector made it 520) despite Watergate. Shortly after re-election, Nixon was on his way to impeachment. (The Watergate plane crash, Flight 553 in Chicago on 12.08.1972, showed that assassination wasn't above this Nixon White House.) His vice-presidential running mate in both elections, former Maryland Gov. Spiro Agnew, resigned in 1973 (charges) and was replaced by the former minority leader of the House of Representatives, Gerald Ford. And, in 1974, Nixon was so far gone ("I'm not a crook!") that Arizona U.S. Sen. and 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry "Mr. Conservative" Goldwater told Nixon he had needed to resign the presidency.

The tapes aren't terribly surprising.

 

[Benvolio]

You guys are making the assertions, the burden is upon you to produce facts first.

 

[chrisrobin]

You guys are making the assertions, the burden is upon you to produce facts first.

I don't even know why I'm doing this. What you read are not assertions. Richard M. Nixon resigned from the presidency on August 8, 1974. This is not an assertion. The burden of proof is not mine because we are not in open court. Nixon's dead. Your defense is not required. If you would like to visit his shrine, it is located in Yorba Linda, California. Please Google assertion.

 

[Benvolio]

Evidence would consist of actual quotations of testimony of persons who witnessed the conversations, or admissions by Nixon. Assertions by the newspaper are not evidence.
Nixon was not impeached for talking to the Vietnamese, so that is not evidence.

 

[chrisrobin]

Evidence would consist of actual quotations of testimony of persons who witnessed the conversations, or admissions by Nixon. Assertions by the newspaper are not evidence*.
Nixon was not impeached for talking to the Vietnamese, so that is not evidence.

Niixon was not impeached.

*Would you find the actual conversation between Johnson and Dirksen acceptable, or do we need to hold a seance?

 

[Benvolio]

Now I see the problem. You think that conclusions in newspapers are evidence.

 

[CowboyBob]

Now I see the problem. You think that conclusions in newspapers are evidence.

Were you even around when Nixon was committing his crimes or is something you learned in history class? You've got it all wrong.

 

[Benvolio]

Were you even around when Nixon was committing his crimes or is something you learned in history class? You've got it all wrong.

There has never been proof of the Democrat claim that he interfered with negotiations. Newspaper conclusions are not proof.

 

[CowboyBob]

There has never been proof of the Democrat claim that he interfered with negotiations. Newspaper conclusions are not proof.

You didn't answer my question... do you remember this firsthand or did you read about this in some book you were handed.

 

[TX-Beau]

There has never been proof of the Democrat claim that he interfered with negotiations. Newspaper conclusions are not proof.

LOL

...there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room...

 

[chrisrobin]

There has never been proof of the [STRIKE]Democrat[/STRIKE] Democratic claim that he interfered with negotiations. Newspaper conclusions are not proof.

There has never been proof that you exist.

The tapes are in his briefcase.

 

[Benvolio]

You didn't answer my question... do you remember this firsthand or did you read about this in some book you were handed.

I was around. I would not consider media reports to be first hand.

 

[TX-Beau]

I wasn't, and even I can see you're just trying to hide from the facts.

 

[Benvolio]

I wasn't, and even I can see you're just trying to hide from the facts.

If you had been around you would know that this claim of negotiating with the Vietnamese was not part of the impeachment, and has never been more than a rumor.

 

[TX-Beau]

I wasn't around and even I know that Nixon wasn't impeached, he resigned. Of course this wasn't part of something that didn't happen.

...there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room......there is no Gorilla in the room...


LOL

 

[rareboy]

Oh Springer.

And Benvolio....

I for one am so glad that you have found one another.

 

[chrisrobin]

Oh Springer.

And Benvolio....

I for one am so glad that you have found one another.

Me too! But they can never have children.