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Mac vs PC

Mac or PC person?

  • Mac Person

    Votes: 44 55.0%
  • PC Person

    Votes: 31 38.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 6.3%

  • Total voters
    80
Mac is overpriced. And once you start it doesn't get cheaper. Apple is not interested in supporting 5 year old hardware and they assume you won't be interested in using it either.

But it just works better than anything powered by Windows.

At work, I use the "Hey wow I can configure it myself!" features of Windows to make it seem more Mac-like. And it is a pain in the arse getting it even halfway there.

Mac user here because virtually all corporations I've worked for and with use PC. ;)

Anyway, to each his own.

In some areas, yes. But, before I got my 15" Macbook Pro, I priced out similar specced systems, and all were comparably priced. (and that's with the MBP having a newer generation processor) When PCs came out with the same chipset I have now, they were also comparably priced.

Frankly, if I'm going to spend what I spent and a PC will cost the same, I'd prefer to get the Mac.
 
You seriously did not just suggest that a Mac computer is a toy did you. [-X

I know you are smarter than that.

90% of the mac users use their machine at a maximum of 10% of it's possibilities.

90% of the mac users could do the same with a $200 netbook or similar.

yep, it's a toy for them. it's more about "having" a mac, than needing one.
 
90% of the mac users use their machine at a maximum of 10% of it's possibilities.

90% of the mac users could do the same with a $200 netbook or similar.

yep, it's a toy for them. it's more about "having" a mac, than needing one.

Negative sir, and that betrays as huge amount of ignorance on your part.

Macs have a huge role in professional work, including my own.

Stop pulling statistics out of your ass.
 
90% of the statistics that I pull out of anywhere are a 100% correct ..|

I am not talking about professional users. But apart from that, the installation base of the mac systems as a whole (iOS + OS X) most likely has less than 10% of professional users.

Real statistics would be interesting, but I doubt that you will find anything reliable.
 
iOS + OS X

I think this might be some of the disconnect we are having.

iOS has nothing to do with Mac vs PC. iOS is a mobile/tablet platform.

That would be like saying let's compare Android with Windows 7. The two are not comparable as they are not for the same purpose.

This discussion is about personal computers, which if we are talking operating systems would be OSX vs Win (Desktop versions) vs Linux etc.
 
you make that difference. And I do.

now look around the mac threads and count the other people. I stopped telling people that Macs are PCs some time ago, too :roll:

But in any case .. my initial comment is valid for BOTH desktop computers and mobile devices.
 
90% of the mac users use their machine at a maximum of 10% of it's possibilities.

90% of the mac users could do the same with a $200 netbook or similar.

yep, it's a toy for them. it's more about "having" a mac, than needing one.

Surely this is true of 90% of ALL computer users. Even in corporate environments the average computer is used for what ... word processing, spreadsheets and a bit of web browsing? How are Mac users different in their usage patterns to any other computer users? If anything, Apple are constantly pushing the boundaries of media consumption and manipulation on their devices, with extraordinary tools for photo, movie and music creation supplied free with every machine.
 
^ and yet they are still lacking a paint-like tool :)

but you didn't even attack my point.
i said that for what they use it for, it's an expensive toy. your argue that there are much cheaper toys. so how is that supposed to make the expensive toy better?
 
Actually when Apple introduced the iPhone it was quite explicit about the fact that the iPhone runs Mac OS X.

They added a different interface layer and branded it as iOS because that was probably easier than saying "Well I know it doesn't look the same, you see it has a different interface layer for the mobile platform but it is still Mac OS X. No you can't plug your mouse into the phone. And no you can't use your phone as a bootable volume on your broken iMac. Yes I know; we covered that...it looks different because (&(*&(? FUCK IT. It's called iOS now, okay!!!!! It's totally different!"

Anyway the annoying part is that the trendy iOS interface which is lovely on the phone is starting to infect the desktop OS X, and I hate it. Snow Leopard for ever!
 
^ and yet they are still lacking a paint-like tool :)

but you didn't even attack my point.
i said that for what they use it for, it's an expensive toy. your argue that there are much cheaper toys. so how is that supposed to make the expensive toy better?

The expensive toy is more fun than the cheap toy. That's how a toy earns its value. It's also incidentally a hell of a good tool.
 
There has to be some way to get linux to run netflix in a program/browser with our virtualbox!
 
^ and yet they are still lacking a paint-like tool :)

but you didn't even attack my point.
i said that for what they use it for, it's an expensive toy. your argue that there are much cheaper toys. so how is that supposed to make the expensive toy better?

I don't GET your point. People buy expensive toys all the time, like sports cars and 60" TVs. There are plenty of cheaper, more efficient options for everything we buy. To you, it might seem crazy to spend an extra 20% on a computer. But to someone else, it's worth it because of little things like magnetic power cables that disconnect when you trip on the cable, magnetic cover latches that you can lift with one finger, or maybe just for the beauty of a simple but elegant aluminium frame. Or interface features, like the ability to swap between virtual desktops with the swipe of a finger, or pinch-to-zoom into a web page on your desktop browser.

As I've said many times before, considering the amount of time we all spend in front of computers these days, why is it so ridiculous that people make decisions about such tools that aren't JUST about specifications and utility?
 
I don't GET your point. People buy expensive toys all the time, like sports cars and 60" TVs. There are plenty of cheaper, more efficient options for everything we buy. To you, it might seem crazy to spend an extra 20% on a computer. But to someone else, it's worth it because of little things like magnetic power cables that disconnect when you trip on the cable, magnetic cover latches that you can lift with one finger, or maybe just for the beauty of a simple but elegant aluminium frame. Or interface features, like the ability to swap between virtual desktops with the swipe of a finger, or pinch-to-zoom into a web page on your desktop browser.

As I've said many times before, considering the amount of time we all spend in front of computers these days, why is it so ridiculous that people make decisions about such tools that aren't JUST about specifications and utility?

RE: "that aren't JUST about specifications and utility?"

Um, there's more involved than that. Such as the deceptive advertising that has led the majority of Mac users to believe they're safer online with a Mac than with a PC, which can lead to all sorts of problems for them.
 
That's a completely different topic to what I was discussing. But, for the record, in the real world, and not counting theoretical vulnerabilities, the recent MacDefender malware was the first mainstream malware to EVER hit Mac OS X, in it's ten years of existence. There has never been a real-world virus for OS X.

Anecdotally, I've never, ever had to install anti-virus software on any of the hundreds of Macs I've administered in my career, and I've never, ever had to do a clean install of OS X because of malware infection. Of those hundreds of Macs, I've seen MacDefender malware installed on one machine, ever. It was removed without trace within 30 seconds.

But I've had to do clean installs more than a dozen times on Windows machines that have become so infected as to be unusable. Symantec's database lists 1.5 million virus and malware variants for the Windows platform.

Now, I NEVER taut OS X is being invulnerable, because it isn't. But you'll note that Apple don't either. From their website:

Security Advice
The Mac is designed with built-in technologies that provide protection against malicious software and security threats right out of the box. However, since no system can be 100 percent immune from every threat, here are some other ways to help keep your information as safe as possible:

Download files only from known and trusted websites.
Use FileVault 2 to encrypt everything on your Mac.
Control access to your Mac by locking your screen after a period of inactivity.
Securely delete outdated sensitive files with the Secure Empty Trash command.

They have malware counter-measures built in to the OS, which have been expanded since MacDefender occurred. And they haven't really pushed security in their marketing for several years. The simple, real-world facts show that OS X has less security vulnerabilities, less attempted attacks, and less interest from attackers, than Windows.

So, when you say "which can lead to all sorts of problems for them.", which problems do you mean? Because, as I say, I've administered hundreds of Macs over the past ten years and have never installed anti-virus software on any of them. With the exception of one piece of nuisance-ware a few months ago, I have never ever seen any evidence of a Mac that has been compromised because of a security flaw.
 
I don't GET your point. People buy expensive toys all the time, like sports cars and 60" TVs.

I don't argue that. I don't even oppose that :) But that does not make it rational either. And you basically support my argument. It's ok that some people prefer the expensive toy. I am not one of them.
 
So if we agree that 90% of Windows users, 90% of Mac users and probably a whole lot of other product users buy things that are over and above what they need, I don't understand your original post. How are Mac users different to anyone else in that regard?
 
So if we agree that 90% of Windows users, 90% of Mac users and probably a whole lot of other product users buy things that are over and above what they need, I don't understand your original post. How are Mac users different to anyone else in that regard?
they pay at least twice as much :)
 
I prefer building a tower myself and installing whatever operating system I want. Why would I buy a prebuilt ANYTHING when I can do it myself for cheaper and I know what's going into my machine. Most computer builders skimp on something, somewhere. Whether it's shitty RAM, a low end motherboard, or something else they think people won't notice.

The other annoying thing is having stuff like proprietary screws for the drive bays and shit like that. If you're going to have a tower computer, you should build it yourself, or at the very least, buy all the parts you want and then have someone else put it together if you can't read motherboard and case manuals.

I'm personally loving my CoolerMaster HAF-X case.

I've found most proprietary (by that I mean HP, Dell, Mac, etc) cases tend to have crappy airflow or loud fans. When you want to really flog your GPU, the graphics card tends to get hot and you need the extra airflow of a big 15 cm fan. I haven't seen anything that Apple (or any other computer builder) makes that has good airflow.

Antec makes great cases too, and I've been impressed with Corsair cases lately. Honestly, the case is a big part of the computer. If your machine is too hot, then your performance decreases.
 
they pay at least twice as much :)

In some cases, yes. In many cases, what they pay is not significantly more than what a Windows user pays. And what they get for that small premium is better than anything a windows user will get.

When it was time to replace my Macbook, I did seriously consider getting a Windows 7 laptop. But none of them could match the quality of the Macbook Pro I ended up getting, and none were worth what their respective maker were charging.
 
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