McDonald's Denies Claim For Employee Shot at Work

[TX-Beau]

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I know that he injected himself into a private altercation in a public place and because of his actions a man hitting a woman escalated to gun shots that seriously wounded him and could easily have wounded others or killed people.

His action did not make the situation better.

so we're back to could have huh, well his actions could have saved everyone in the store from he same gunman who could easily have wounded others or killed people.

See how that could have works, it's like magic.

 

[TX-Beau]

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I didn't say he should be punished for his recklessness.

I said he's responsible for the consequences of his actions.

McDonald's had nothing to do with what happened or the decisions this employee made, and yet he (and others here) think McDonald's is responsible for paying for the consequences of his choices.

Same irresponsible entitled response mechanism that too many Americans keep demonstrating today.

It certainly sounds like you're trying to convict him of something.

As for entitled response, well it's nice to know you'd stand around and watch a woman get beaten.

 

[NickCole]

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so we're back to could have huh, well his actions could have saved everyone in the store from he same gunman who could easily have wounded others or killed people.

See how that could have works, it's like magic.

What happened is his actions escalated hitting into gun shots that wounded him.

And he wants McDonald's to pay for the consequent expense of those gun shots.

 

[TX-Beau]

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What happened is his actions escalated hitting into gun shots that wounded him.

And he wants McDonald's to pay for the consequent expense of those gun shots.

And that has nothing to do with your opinion of his state of mind, mythical pregnant ladies, martians with ass probes, or any other "if."

 

[naked gent]

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As for entitled response, well it's nice to know you'd stand around and watch a woman get beaten.

Hey he's not standing around he's dialing his phone as fast as his lil fingers can go.

 

[Glafna]

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While I'm thinking about that you can think about this. How about the woman was pregnant and after getting hit in the face she falls to the floor and the guy starts kicking her in the abdomen.

Do you think limiting your response to calling the police will save that baby's life and if not do you think action on your part is called for?

By that measure the courageous often act without benefit of wisdom but I wouldn't want to say they lack brain matter......although it might appear that way to a coward.

For whatever reason, you keep bringing up "kicking in the abdomen". Any specific reason for that??

Calling the police first would be the correct thing to do in any situation that involve physical altercations. THEN you get involved, in a way that will hopefully either dissolve the situation, or stop the person/people from continuing until the authorities arrive.

Now where the fuck do you get off calling anyone a coward??

 

[Glafna]

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...as long as we're makin' shit up...

So what if the guy with the gun came in an killed several pregnant women a nun and three grannies with walkers because no one chased him outside, then he tossed a baby into traffic and slapped a retarded kid, who's the hero then huh?

Hey genius, since your apparently blind, let me clarify. The employee grabbed and FORCED the gunman out of the store, he wasn't chased out, he didn't run out.

 

[Glafna]

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Hey he's not standing around he's dialing his phone as fast as his lil fingers can go.

So if you seen someone attacking someone else, you would just jump in, and start beating on the person who started it? Or is it just women who you believe need defending in this situation? Or maybe you just like to talk big while in real life your as cowardly as you are loud-mouthed on here.

 

[TX-Beau]

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Hey genius, since your apparently blind, let me clarify. The employee grabbed and FORCED the gunman out of the store, he wasn't chased out, he didn't run out.

Hey genius since you're apparently blind, we were makin' shit up.

 

[Glafna]

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And that has nothing to do with your opinion of his state of mind, mythical pregnant ladies, martians with ass probes, or any other "if."

And none of those things(except for the state of mind) have anything to do with the thread at hand.

The facts: The man hit the woman, Harken rushed in, grabbed, and forced the man outside into the parking lot, after which we don't know what happened. Then, a few minutes later, Harken comes back into the McDonald's, and collapses with gunshot wounds.

What he did do was recklessly jump into a fight that was not his, and done so without following guidelines, or considering that it might have been best to try to use his words rather then his fist to dissolve the situation.

 

[naked gent]

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For whatever reason, you keep bringing up "kicking in the abdomen". Any specific reason for that??

I use that example because imo it demands an immediate response and calling the police (although I agree someone should) would not be sufficient.

Unless they are physically present the police don't prevent violence they show up after the fact and take down names and birthdays.

Now where the fuck do you get off calling anyone a coward??

I didn't call anyone a coward I merely pointed out that to a coward the actions of the courageous could appear nutty.

Mind you I'm not claiming that I would have come to that woman's defense only that I believe I should.

 

[Glafna]

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Hey genius since you're apparently blind, we were makin' shit up.

Well I try to pay attention to relevant facts, as opposed to bullshit, So I skimmed over your most of your shit.

 

[Glafna]

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I didn't call anyone a coward I merely pointed out that to a coward the actions of the courageous could appear nutty.

Mind you I'm not claiming that I would have come to that woman's defense only that I believe I should.

The way you said it, it was easily confused as such.

The problem is, that people talk big(not just saying you), about how a situation should be handled, but they won't know what they do until they are either put in that situation or are witnessing it.

 

[TX-Beau]

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And none of those things(except for the state of mind) have anything to do with the thread at hand.

Sure they do. We were in the land of make believe.

The facts: The man hit the woman, Harken rushed in, grabbed, and forced the man outside into the parking lot, after which we don't know what happened. Then, a few minutes later, Harken comes back into the McDonald's, and collapses with gunshot wounds.

What he did do was recklessly jump into a fight that was not his, and done so without following guidelines, or considering that it might have been best to try to use his words rather then his fist to dissolve the situation.

If he violated some guideline, sure, he violated a guideline, the rest of that is your value judgment.

 

[TX-Beau]

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Well I try to pay attention to relevant facts, as opposed to bullshit, So I skimmed over your most of your shit.

And yet you felt the need to respond to something you didn't read.

 

[naked gent]

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The problem is, that people talk big(not just saying you), about how a situation should be handled, but they won't know what they do until they are either put in that situation or are witnessing it.

Gla I agree and I'd also add that some here who are advising to call the police and allow professionals to handle the situation might, in certain situations, jump in and get involved.

You just don't know.

And while I might agree that such a response is more emotional than rational more often than not that is how humans respond to various situations and revelations.....emotionally not rationally.

 

[opinterph]

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The point is, he decided to play hero …

Speaking of heroes …

UPDATE, 4pm EST, 2/25:

My highest priority is the safety and security of my customers and employees.

I stand behind Nigel Haskett. I believe he acted as a Good Samaritan. Concerning the critical matter of his medical expenses, it is important to note that the Arkansas Worker's Compensation Commission ultimately decides the outcome of his claim. As part of this process, Nigel's case will be presented to a Worker's Compensation judge, who will review all of the facts and decide on the case's merits.

McDonald's supports Nigel's claim, and fully anticipates the judge in this process will find in Nigel's favor. As a safeguard, if for some reason his claim is denied, and other insurance options are unavailable, I intend to cover the cost of his medical expenses.

I'm doing this because it's the right thing to do for Nigel.

Ray Nosler, McDonald's Owner/Operator

 

[naked gent]

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^^ As I said before in this thread its not only doing the right thing but its also basic good business as well.

Those who don't understand that don't know what its like to run a business.

 

[fjancsi80]

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Those who feel so much pity for poor rich McDonalds have no empathy for the boy whose life could have completely fucked up with the shot and the bill. That's creepy. And the lack of universal health care in a modern civilized society is creepy also.

 

[NickCole]

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It certainly sounds like you're trying to convict him of something.

Not so.

I'm saying we're responsible for the consequences of our actions, which I realize is an incomprehensible concept for some.

As for entitled response, well it's nice to know you'd stand around and watch a woman get beaten.

You "know" that, do you?

Reveals more about your thought process than about who I am.