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Messed up. Need help.

I couldnt disagree with Lex more. I'm not saying to keep pursuing this guy but I think he is the one being manipulative. He knows what affect he has on you and has no problem engaging in emotional and sexual encounters with you when he feels it is convenient for him. Everything is on his terms. That is not a friendship. He is using you as his little bicurious experiment or whatever.

He prolly legitimate likes you as a friend but it is not an equal friendship. He knows he can have full access to you whenever he wants and see no problem with doing so. He might not be a total douche but it is up to you to point out what he is doing. If he doesnt care enough to change then you have to leave him alone. If he is a good friend like you say he should stop this teasy phase bullshit and just be your friend with nothing extra. What he is doing and what you are allowing him to do will prevent you from being a functional relationship.
 
G-Lexington said:
Your story of you and your "straight" friend are precisely the sort of thing that fuels hot jerkoff sessions and erotic fiction.

This is one of those rare occasions where I will disagree with Lex.

I don't think your story fuels erotic fiction.

I think it is erotic fiction.
 
^LOL I was sorta thinking that too. The part prior to the sex stuff sounds pretty authentic. But the sex part sounds a weird. Ill give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
 
It can really be dangerous emotional ground to bring those types of feeling into a longtime friendship even when it fits everyone's "orientation". When the pursued has said they're interested in the other sex (even if they send mixed signals) it's even harder. If you're still discovering who you are you'll make it a minefield by trying to turn a friendship into a relationship against resistance.

If you can call yourself "twentysomething", then you have time to look for something that will come more naturally and won't risk destroying a friendship. I know my share of people who carried feelings for a friend that weren't mutual from school age to middle age and severely held back their own progress doing so. I myself still sting over a lost cause that just reached it's 20th anniversary, so I know a bit about not being able to move on.

As for being a closet case, just do what you feel comfortable with. If you think of it as converting to a "lifestyle" then you're not comfortable enough with it yet. It doesn't define who you are, you define how it fits in your life.
 
>>>I don't think your story fuels erotic fiction. I think it is erotic fiction.

Yeah, I considered that, as well. And as usual, I decided to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. But it's funny. I'm not sure which scenario is the more pathetic...

Lex
 
>>>I don't think your story fuels erotic fiction. I think it is erotic fiction.

Yeah, I considered that, as well. And as usual, I decided to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. But it's funny. I'm not sure which scenario is the more pathetic...

Lex

That's pretty much what I was thinking too. Halfway through that last post it occurred to me that the OP wants us to tell him this guy is gay, at any cost. The shaving thing was way over the top. I find it hard to believe that a closeted guy who's so insecure that he's adamantly denying it and dating women, is going to be so comfortable with the fetishes, to the point where he's the instigator, and he's just peachy keen and there is no backlash.

It scans like wishful thinking.
 
Ok, flashforward to one of the best nights of my life... we need to prove test two... we're driving to the mall, which is an hour away... we're on the highway, its dark, no other cars. he tells me to drop my pants. I actually didn't feel uncomcomfortable doing so, which I thought I would have. He wants me to know what being jerked off by someone else feels like. For the past week or so before he was saying how gross it would be to do it, and that if he did it for someone he would wipe it all over thier face (which i think is kinda hot.... haha). So there it was. He was driving with his left hand and jerking me off with his right hand.. It was completely awesome. And when I came... after like 4 minutes hahaa, he was kind of disgusted by it and wiped it on my face and stuck his fingers in my mouth and made me lick it off so he could "witness" me tasting it. I definitely played dumb and pretended I didn't want any of that to happen ,but in actuality I was in heaven. I even said something like.. if you wanted that to happen I woudn't be opposed to doing it for you. But he got really short with me and said that you need to be that special someone to get in his pants. But man I was ready to slobber all over that.... I was so attracted to him for so long. After that whole incident of him jerking me off, he brought up phase 3. He wants me to know what it felt like to have something playing with/in my ass... (now this is odd to me. I never had that. I was never interested... even now it's not something i really enjoy..). But i played with the idea and teased him with no. not gonna happen. i dont care what you say. (hard to get i guess?). well he said something like "dont make me play with your ass, you know im not into the guy stuff". at this point I was willing to test his limits. I mean he said that repeatedly, yet still jerked me off? ok...

So I told him no. Then when we were out one day we stopped at target. He picked out shaving cream and a razor and after razor gel and told me to shave down there.. hahahaha... I kinda did because I was like wow... something is gonna happen. Then when we were out that weekend going to meet someone, he shows me a thing of hand sanitizor and paper towels. I knew what he was thinking but pretended i didn't. He pulled over into a dark parking lot and told me to go to his back seat... so I did. immediately. I took my pants and boxers off and started playing around. He asked me to pull my legs back, so my ass was exposed. And he definitely began playing around and fingered my ass. I told him I never felt that before and that it was all new to me. But it was pretty fun I must say. I was just frustrated because he woudln't let me do anything to him, which is what i really wanted. But phase 3 was passed.

One word for this............

But what I'll suggest instead is that you don't give up your day job.
 
It sounds to me like the "You're not gay" friend is quite the jackass. My suggestion: tell them that it hurts you when they do all these things. If they continue, fuck them. Although this may be hard, it shows you have self-respect, a trait most people dont have. Good luck!
 
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