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Michelangelo’s David is pornography..?

pornoboy said:
American tourists complaining..?
Should he have been dressed with a kilt..?

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or try the rear view next time..?
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That statue is one of the most beautiful in the world. Anybody who thinks differently is definitely a prude. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the male form. Funny how lately that people are finding fault and attacking things like different statues that have been around for decades and decades. Especially things that are a part of or history. Like everything that has to do with the south and the civil war. That really pisses me off. Don’t people have anything more constructive to do
 
lonley said:
That statue is one of the most beautiful in the world. Anybody who thinks differently is definitely a prude. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the male form. Funny how lately that people are finding fault and attacking things like different statues that have been around for decades and decades. Especially things that are a part of or history. Like everything that has to do with the south and the civil war. That really pisses me off. Don’t people have anything more constructive to do
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As you've just demonstrated, though, it doesn't take much time or energy to complain. Not even when we complain about complaining.:)
 
pat grimshaw said:
The penis can be enflamed or the mind can be enflamed.

I'm sure Kenneth Clark had something to say in his "The Nude: A Study in Ideal Form", (which I haven't looked at).

He said we must distinguishes between 'the naked and the nude. To be naked is to be deprived of our clothes, and the word implies some of the embarrassment most of us feel in that condition. The word "nude," on the other hand, carries, in educated usage, no uncomfortable overtone. The vague image it projects into the mind is not of a huddled and defenseless body, but of a balanced, prosperous, and confident body: the body re-formed".

Furthermore "the word was forced into our vocabulary by critics of the early eighteenth century to persuade the artless islanders [of the UK] that, in countries where painting and sculpture were practiced and valued as they should be, the naked human body was the central subject of art."
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You should read "The Nude". An excellent, thoughtful book. However, I rarely use the word "nude" unless describing a work of art. Even when modeling for art classes (which I did a lot of at one time) I thought of myself as modeling "naked"--with not the least sense of embarrassment--and would describe it as such, sometimes to the consternation of others, who would correct me.

One of the reasons I did so was that I suspected that the ancient Greeks did not have different words for the unclothed person and the unclothed person depicted in sculpture or painting. Last month I was in Greece for two weeks, bookended by visits to London. Visiting museums in Athens, Olympia, Delphi and London reminded me (again and again) how ubiquitous the naked male was in ancient Greek art. It really is astounding, particularly because the naked men are very often portrayed engaged in activities in which in everyday life they would have been clothed.

I recall that the British Museum's 2015 show "Defining Beauty: the nude in Ancient Greek Art" noted that in Mesopotamian and Persian art only conquered captives are represented unclothed. To be naked is to be shamed. How daring and revolutionary it therefore was for the male nude to be revived as a proper subject by the artists of the early Renaissance in Italy.

And it goes back so far: the Akrotiri frescoes from Santorini (c. 1500 B.C.) portray young naked men carrying--it seems--offerings.
 

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Fish. Fishermen I would have thought, but others more knowledgeable than I suggest they are bringing offerings to a female deity. That said, the Akrotiri paintings are quite beautiful. Take a look at the attachments. I've been intrigued by them ever since I saw a show--Eternity in a Day: Pompeii and Santorini--on them in Rome a few years ago. I saw some of them again a few weeks ago when I was in Athens.
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ Oooh, plenty of fish.


Has the Acropolis changed much since your last visit?
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Yes. Paved pathways and barriers with the intent both to protect the monuments and keep the visitors to particular routes around the site. One isn't allowed to wander about freely as I was on my first visit twenty-five years ago. (Understandable, it would seem, as I was told upwards of 20,000 visitors a day are expected this coming summer.) A fair amount of scaffolding on the monuments, but not oppressively so. There is also--as you know--a new, much heralded museum on one of the lower slopes, bright and shiny, and surprisingly large--with vast exhibit spaces (too vast, I'd venture) and an astonishing number of artifacts--primarily sculptural--handsomely displayed with good explanatory material. I quite enjoyed the three hours I spent there. I should add that my Athenian architect friends are not pleased with the building, feeling it insufficiently sensitive to the site and aggressively modern. I'm the most critical guy in the world when it comes to buildings in historic settings and, in particular, museums, but I'll reserve judgement for another visit. The food in the cafe was surpassingly good. The staff there--as well as in the entire museum--was unfailingly generous and good-natured and patient to a fault with my often hesitant tourist Greek.
 
Probably they need to colorize the David to catch today's youngsters attention.
 
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I wonder how many conservators (and others) over the years have not been able to resist and have given David a kiss on his penis?
 
/\ I'd expect the penis patina to betray the 'never kiss and tell' hopes of his many lovers. :)
 
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