Michigan Republicans: OK to bully gays if you're Christian

[Críostóir]

Apparently Michigan Republicans are even more assholic than elsewhere.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/04/michigan-law-its-ok-to-bully-gay-kids-if-youre-a-christian/

THIS SECTION DOES NOT ABRIDGE THE RIGHTS UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OR UNDER ARTICLE I OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION OF 1963 OF A SCHOOL EMPLOYEE, SCHOOL VOLUNTEER, PUPIL, OR A PUPIL’S PARENT OR GUARDIAN. THIS SECTION DOES NOT PROHIBIT A STATEMENT OF A SINCERELY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEF OR MORAL CONVICTION OF A SCHOOL EMPLOYEE, SCHOOL VOLUNTEER, PUPIL, OR A PUPIL’S PARENT OR GUARDIAN. (emphasis mine)

Wouldn't want to abridge someone's Constitutional right to harass and torment someone into suicide (that being what happened that the law was supposed to fix) as long as you REALLY believe they're going to hell.

Eat shit and die, Michigan Rethuglicans. No, eat cold shit and die slowly.

 

[gsdx]

Christianity (I'm not even going to broaden the field to 'religion' because there's only one religion involved) has such a strangle hold on the United States. With all the talk of freedom and equality, it applies ONLY if you are Christian. Everyone else shouldn't be there.

Things weren't always great for homosexuals in Canada, and there wasn't a lot of legislation passed FOR us, but I can't remember any that was ever passed AGAINST us as happens consistently in the US. I mean, it took a long time for Canada to pass same-sex marriage legislation, but I don't ever recall any legislation passed which prohibited it.

Why do Americans allow the governments to be ruled by Christianity? Any other country which is ruled by a single religion often faces the wrath of America, but America is equally guilty of exactly the same thing, and it isn't good when you are on the outside looking in. 'Freedom of Religion', as it appears to outsiders, means 'Freedom to be Christian', and that translates to 'Freedom to Rule the World'.

There is no separation of the church and state. The (right-wing) church IS the state.

Why don't Americans and 'normal' Christians stand up against the crap? I hate to use use the word 'normal' here, but it's the only one that applies. I can't see all Christians holding the same beliefs and feelings as the right-wing groups. Why don't they step forward and back up the rest of America?

Oh, right. It's that 'freedom of religion' thing again.

 

[rareboy]

As I've observed in another thread this morning, America seems to be built on structural hatreds nurtured and encouraged by racist, misogynist, homphobic, white fundamentalist old testamentarian 'christians'.

They do not see or appreciate that in their hearts, they are no different than the Talibani, the Ayatollahs and the Wahabists that they profees to also hate.

 

[tider39]

Christianity (as currently practiced by a very vocal group) is quickly becoming irrelevant and little more than a force for hate and injustice that it has often been portrayed as being. Time for me to consider one of the non-big-three as they all three seem to spring from the same well of hate and narrow minded bigotry.

 

[Críostóir]

The way the clause is worded, I'd be allowed to tell my students they should masturbate regularly, because I have a deeply-held religious belief that adolescents (at any rate boys) should do so, and that it's critical for their mental and spiritual development that they do so.

But I'm not allowed to talk about sex to adolescents, for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. My religion doesn't entitle me to break that law.

Religion doesn't entitle you to abuse other people, period. Otherwise a priest of Setesh could argue that involuntary human sacrifice falls under his freedom of religion!

But right-wing "Christians" (I don't think you can actually be both right-wing and Christian, since Jesus was explicitly socialist) think freedom of religion applies only to them, and that it's OK to deny it to others. Fucking asshole losers.

 

[bike10]

In there words they say " well God told me it was ok to bully."

 

[Críostóir]

is it bullying just to make a statement of "I'm a Christian and believe that homosexuality is immoral"?

If that's all they say, and they say it once EVER in the presence of any one gay person, maybe not.

If you seriously think that's what's going to happen, you're a fool.

 

[Seasoned]

As I've observed in another thread this morning, America seems to be built on structural hatreds nurtured and encouraged by racist, misogynist, homphobic, white fundamentalist old testamentarian 'christians'.[/QUORepublic

The Republican Party has pandered to these folks after seeing how effectively Nixon welcomed the old Dixiecrats into the party after their defection from the Democratic Party over civil rights. Karl Rove then put together a strategy to add all other disaffected voters and now they're bundled with the old-style and so called less government Republicans. Enlightened people wouldn't associate with bigots but apparently they are willing to pander to them and march lock step with them. Today Lincoln would be a Democrat.

 

[Críostóir]

I actually think we should dispense with the term 'bullying' entirely, because it tends to minimize the offenses that are being committed.

We should call it 'harrassment', 'intimidation', 'assault', 'battery', and 'making terroristic threats' (according to which of these has occurred), and it should be dealt with in the criminal law.

People should have exactly the same right to make Christian objections to homosexuality that they have to make Christian objections to Judaism. The law is pretty clear on where that line is.