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Might lose my bf

btiger

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My boyfriend is sleeping right now and I can't. I need to talk/vent so I thought I'd make a post here. This might end up being a little long but here goes:

My boyfriend and I first met over a year ago through a hook-up website. When we first met, we were just looking for sex... possibly something ongoing like a friends with benefits situation but that was it. At that time I had only been with one other guy and it was a two-time hook up. Up to the point when my boyfriend and I met, I had been struggling with my sexuality. I knew for a long time that I wasn't straight but I guess I didn't want to admit it to myself - but I've never been physically attracted to women and never dated.

When my boyfriend and I first started talking there seemed to be an instant connection. We talked online all the time and when we eventually met in person for the first time, it went really well. After about 10 months of hanging out/hooking up, I did what wasn't supposed to happen - my feelings for him grew and I fell for him. Then he told me he met a girl he was interested in. By the way - we're both not out. No one knows about us and we're both fine with that for now. I hoped eventually it might change but I'm in no hurry. Anyway, when he told me he met a girl I felt almost crushed. We eventually talked about it and we thought we had straightened things out. We were having some fun and were great friends and wanted the friendship to continue. Well, it ended up not working out with this girl and I had made a few online friends through gay.com and added them to facebook and myspace. When my boyfriend noticed it, he felt the same thing I felt about him when he met that girl. We again ended up talking and finally both admitted to each other we had feelings for each other and loved each other and wanted to try being in a relationship.

We were talking on AIM late one night about all this and when we were talking about the relationship, he said he had always wanted a wife and kids but was happy with me. He said he might still want a wife and kids one day but for now was happy with me. This threw up a flag and my gut told me I should have said something but I was so excited to be in a relationship with him that I let it go. Four months later (today)... Last night we went out with some friends and there was drinking. On the way back to the apt we were talking and somehow the subject of wife and kids came up and he said he still wanted that one day. I was crushed.

The past four months with him have been amazing. I've never felt the way I feel about him. I love him and he loves me. It just feels right. I couldn't sleep last night and almost left to go home. I wanted to talk but he passed out from drinking. After about three hours of not being able to sleep I thought it might be better if I go home. I woke him up to tell him I thought it would better if I went home and we ended up talking a little bit. I told him I didn't want to ask him to make a lifetime commitment to me - that was never my intention. But if he wants a wife and kids someday, what is the point of us continuing our relationship the way it is? He asked me if I wanted a wife and kids someday too and I said no. I like what I have. I'm thinking, if he wants a wife and kids, then why did we start dating in the first place? We decided to continue our talk in the morning.

He wanted me to stay and try and sleep so I got in bed and he held me, at which point I started to cry a little. He said he was sorry to make me sad and he really does love me.

I know that this morning when he wakes up and we talk, we both just need to lay it out on the line what we want in life. I knew that with us not being out it was going to be a long time before we were both comfortable with telling people but I was/am okay with that. I know it's my fault for assuming he might change his mind and be happy with me but I guess I just thought that for as well as things have been going, there was a real chance for us.

I'm glad this came up now because I am a teacher and he is in his last year of college. Both of us want to move away from this area and I've been wanting us to go to the same city. It might make it slightly more difficult to find a job but I was willing to make that sacrifice because I don't want to do a long distance relationship. It's important to me that we can be together when we want. But that's something else we'll need to talk about today.

I just wanted to get some of that off my chest because at this moment, I have no one to talk to. I know it all comes down to the fact that we need to talk and be 100% honest about what we want. I think we're both a little afraid to be honest about that and lose the other person because of our past and how unexpectedly strong this relationship is.

I'm just afraid that today could be the end and it rips my heart out. Thanks for listening.
 
At some point, I got the impression that your BF is with you while the girl who he'd want to marry and have kids with appears in his life. That is not good.
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You're right, and that's what finally hit me last night. I need to ask him what he expected? Was he just going to call me up one day and tell me we're over because he found a girl he wants to marry? And if that was his plan, it's so out of character for him and I can't believe he would do that. Ugh.. he needs to wake up so we can talk.
 
He tried with a girl but he realized the one he love is you. When a man wants something and u pull him back so hard, it just makes him want that thing more.

Let him try having a wife and a kid this time. If hes happy living as a straight guy. U let him go, love means bring happyness to ur beloved one. Ur heart may get broken but u have a good time with him who u love deeply.

And if hes unhappy, break up with his wife, he will come back to u, with the kid. Then u will sure have a happy family with him forever.

That may sound very crazy but anything can happen, plans crash almost everymonth. No one knows if he can live tomorrow. And u will not know what will take him away from you. Love him today and u will never regret.
 
oh man. i guess that's the catch when it comes to being with someone who's attracted to both sexes.

i guess part of it is because a lot of guys want to end up married with children and being with a guy can't give you that. i think somewhere in the future when same sex couples with children become more common we won't have this problem but until then i don't think there is much you can do.

i know that's probably not what you want to hear but i really do feel for you man. by the sounds of it he does seem to really care about you though
 
That's the thing. Originally this wasn't supposed to be long-term or a relationship other than friends with benefits. We became good friends and that was cool and the rest just kinda happened. It's still early on and a good time to talk about this. It's been brought up before but I just kinda hoped things would work out. That one is my fault and I know that. My gut was right and I didn't listen and now I might get burned. I'm prepared to accept that even though I'm not going to like it. But that's what I get. We still have to talk which will hopefully be happening soon. We'll see what happens.
 
The key to any relationship is communication. with out this thee may be trouble. you have to talk this out once and for all. Lay it all out and come up with a solution that is best for both. Unfortunenetly you may not like the out come and it may be best to move on and at least have a good friend than end up on bad terms. He may say he will stay with you but he has other thoughts for his future and those do not include you in them, so that will always be in your mind.

you guys have to talk this out...


good luck...
 
We did talk about it. Basically, he didn't realize I felt as strongly about him as I do in terms of if we were talking about long term, I could see myself with him. He said he loves me and right now he is happy and doesn't want to change our relationship. He has always had this 'plan' that one day he would be married with kids but things change. He's also worried about what would happen if he were to come out. He knows his parents are very against the gay lifestyle and he doesn't believe he would have many friends who would be supportive of him. Because he's always dated women they see him as the straight guy who could probably have anyone he wants. So he's self concious about that.

He did say he was happy with me right now but could not guarantee that someday he might not want a wife and kids. He just couldn't make that decision right now. But for now I'm the one he wants. We both agreed to stay together and see where it takes us. I just hope I didn't do something stupid. I guess I'm hoping that for where things started with us and as far as we've come, the longer we're together the stronger our relationship will grow. We both agree that there is no reason right now to separete. We're both happy with each other, we don't fight, look forward to the time we get to spend together, etc.

I just didn't want to break it off last night. It seemed like there is still a good chance for us (unless I'm just being hopeful). I told him that I don't know if I can just go back to being friends and both of us want to be in each others lives in some capacity. But I told him if we just cut it off I couldn't come up and visit anymore knowing at the end of the night I'm just going to go back home or can't kiss hello, etc.

So for now we just keep on going. I hope it's the right decision and obviously hope for the best. Thanks for listening and I appreciate the feedback.
 
Helo btiger. i know quite well what your going trough. coz i've been and still living the same situation as your's. my boyfreind is BI. his planning to get married and have kids someday.

i knew all these befor we even started to date. our love story begin the same way as your's 33 months ago. i'm GAY and his BI. I have always longed for a longterm and monogamous relationship with a Gay guy. never thought of dating a BI Guy. i hate bitching around and one night stand isn't really my cup of tea. we met on local chat room here. we chat for a month exchanged mobile numbers. we sms and called. n met after one month. it was love at first sight.

He never has hidden anything from me . told me about his intention of marring a girl and having kids. despite knowing all these i accepted to date him. i just listend to my heart. and said to myself lets give it a try cause, i've been boycotting Bi Guys since long.

I've been living and living the best two and a half years of my life up to now. loving and being loved by the same in return is the best of blessings anyone can have nah ? i'm living on a day to day basis. i don't regret my past i;m just living my present. i'm ready for evrything. i know that someday my bf would live me for a girl. it might be in comming months.

on the 19th of December last, my bf decided that we should end up everything.as his parents want him to marry a girl. we went for weekend in a bungalow when he told me. we both hugged and cried bitterly. i was so down. i wanted to leave everything and return back home. but stayed until the last day. but i decided that we should move earlier than we were expected to.

on way back home. we didn't talk. in the bus we kept texting eachother. we were sitting close on the same bench but dare not speak. He kept calling and texting me the same way as he used to before our break up. i wont call it a break up cause his calls and text were showered with his continious i love yous and so on. nothing changed.

Few weeks later i went to a Gay party and met a guy. we danced and he askd to befriend me .he asked for my number and he gave his. The Guys is called Jimmy. he confessed his love foe me . i told my bf that Jimmy is in love with me. he turned jealous. he always has been jealous and possessive. he was jealous of both guys and girls who approached me. "HOW IRRONIC NAH." He is to live me in coming days and yet his the one who's more jealous and possessive.

I met Jimmy several times on friendship basis. we went for lunch along with one of his Lisbienne friend. asked him for some more times cause i wasn't ready to date any guy. Jimmy is a real cute guy. he has everything that would make any Gay guy longing for a longterm and monongamous realationship. cause Jimmy and i have many things in common.

My bf kept calling and texting evryday along with his continious I love yous and so on. A month later he ask to come back. i didn't know what to answer him. but i told him "IF YOUR COMING BACK TO ME , DON'T COME TO MAKE ME SUFFER ..... CAUSE THIS TIME I WONT TOLERATE THAT.

I don't know whether i made a mistake by accepting to come back. but things have changed now. i cry nomore like i used to do whenever we used to fight on phone or whenver i realised that i hurt him. we had fight a lot in the past . but we never went to bed angry without asking for forgivness. Now i'm strong. I'm no more the same S Singh i used to be

I know that am gonna suffer lot when h'll be gone. but i will try to console my heart that he's gone to make his family lol. and never would forget the times we spent together as bfs.

He loves me truly, no doubt.and i love him too undoubtly . but if he wants to go i won't retain him.

Btiger, i know it's hard. and how it feels like. everyday u wake up and go to bed with this in your mind that tomorrow my bf might live me for a girl.

I think racer2438 , is right.

Best of Luck dear. and lets hope for the best. and remember life tastes good with all ups and downs. and like joy, grief as well is momentary...

Gather yourself and be strong.

Best of luck

Snehal Singh.....
 
The thing is, I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait and wonder. I don't think I'm ready to settle down and marry yet, but I would like to know if there is long term potential. I understand that he can't give me an answer right now but eventually I'm going to need an answer because I don't want to be in limbo for who knows how long. I'm fine with giving him time to figure things out for himself - but I don't want to wait around for 1, 2, 3 + years and then find out he really wants a straight life style I'm hoping that now that we've had this talk it'll get him thinking more about this and what he wants, whatever that is. I have several months before I need to worry about looking for a new job and thinking about where I want to live. By that point I'm going to want to have some idea of if there's a chance for a future for us. Otherwise, I'm going to move on my own and start looking for someone who does want a future together.
 
Did you tell him that if the issue is family that he can have a family with you? That you can adopt, have a surrogate, or do the other many options I'm sure are out there?

From the way you put it, it seems that he has an idea of family that he wants to "achieve". Stress to him that while the type of family you'll have together is not traditional, it is still quality and legitimate.
 
i honestly just think he is holding on to what he thinks is the norm, and thinks thats wat the future will hold someday, as most ppl assume and grow up to expect. but i think his heart and passion is with u. i dont think its something to break up about, i honestly think as the relationship with u and him grows, he will realise he no longer needs what he thought he did, and will find fulfillment in u.
 
but i kno the feeling of anxiously wanting for an answer and feeling as if ur on the choppin block, wen it comes to the future. u hav got to just tlk to him and see if he REALLY wants a wife and kids, or if he finds enough fulfillment in u, and enough fulfillment in the relationship, if he still feels like something is missing, i think its time to go ur own ways.
 
i honestly just think he is holding on to what he thinks is the norm, and thinks thats wat the future will hold someday, as most ppl assume and grow up to expect. but i think his heart and passion is with u. i dont think its something to break up about, i honestly think as the relationship with u and him grows, he will realise he no longer needs what he thought he did, and will find fulfillment in u.

That's what I was kind of hoping for. I was talking to another friend about it awhile ago and she said the same thing. Back when we officially started the relationship he wrote to me that he thought he always knew what he wanted but he can't help how he feels about me. I'm hoping that remains the case.
 
What I think is that he has yet to realize who is he -- Gay. I know that when most gay people are coming to terms with themselves they think that they are sort of "bi" as in the fact that they still want the "acceptable" and "classic" lifestyle of a wife and kids. But I really believe that that will change over time if he really, really, really realizes that you are the one and that the traditional way of having a wife and kids is not his way. I just think it will take some time -- don't break it up just yet because it does take a lot of time for someone to tear up their pre-existing notions and adopt new ideas.
 
bi or gay, someone who admits they might leave for another person someday is not someone I would date... but that's just me
 
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