Minimum wage increase revisited

[Sausy]

My reply that you quote was about the 1% and millionaires. I don't waste time thinking about them and how unfair it is that some have so much and others have virtually nothing. I find that if I take a few moments to marvel at the universe it puts life into perspective for me. I have spent the last 4 years dealing with wheelchairs, hospitals, nursing homes and searching for doctors that would listen. Not to mention building ramps and installing hand grips. While doing these things I have had to do the shopping, cooking, cleaning, the budget, fix cars, cut the grass and clean our home.

What I battle daily is the temptation to think about how this is all a repeat of my childhood when my family seemed to lazy to wipe their ass, or take out the garbage. If I didn't do it, it didn't get done. As an adult I had my mother living in a senior apartment building. She would fake a black out and the old ladies would grab her keys and inspect her apartment. Then they called an ambulance and then call me and I would find myself at 11:00 at night cleaning her place so she wouldn't be evicted.

I would get calls at mid night that my brother was hallucinating, again. Then I would find myself at his pigpen home trying to calm him down from a combination of booze and dope.

So, I look at the stars, the same stars that my dad saw when he was alive, it gives me a connection to the one normal person that was in my family. Be it fair or not, it is what it is, as they say and I deal with it. I don't expect all to cope as well as I did or have, and some will do better then I have. We should do our best, it's all we have.

I understand where you are coming from, and from the later posts you've made here see that you're not quite where I thought you were in your thinking, though my perspective, as others, would be different to an extent. I wish everyone would reflect... ESPECIALLY those who've made it. And policies that work against those poor, working class, or we once thought comfortably middle class. I get rightfully angry when some of the comfortable and the powerful do their level best to promote their self interests at the expense of everyone else. In the end, we're all star matter, that's what we'll be when we go. Many people just don't have the time to think, because life requires their attention to their own immediate problems, they have their own responsibilities to take care of regarding themselves and families... in fact, I understand why they would say" I haven't the time for it, just deal with it". But sometimes it just isn't easy to deal at all... and their has to be those who are saying, "enough" and even when the message might understandably fail to register with those overwhelmed and somehow able to handle it, keep head above water.... we still are our brother's keeper and we have to care what happens to those struggling. We are regressing in many ways as a country, and we cannot let that continue. I might have issue with some of prescriptions progressives seem to have regarding the economy, but I wholeheartedly reject today's GOP, which cry against"socialism" but promotes everything possible that will result in the pitchforks coming out for them. And for what? The universe is not impressed by millions, or billions, one makes in life. I'd rather us have a legacy of making this planet better for whatever future generations come, and leave it at that. For one day, all this will have the universal significance of a grain of sand compared to the vastness of the heavens. Which would be quite miniscule, indeed.

 

[peeonme]

I understand where you are coming from, and from the later posts you've made here see that you're not quite where I thought you were in your thinking, though my perspective, as others, would be different to an extent. I wish everyone would reflect... ESPECIALLY those who've made it. And policies that work against those poor, working class, or we once thought comfortably middle class. I get rightfully angry when some of the comfortable and the powerful do their level best to promote their self interests at the expense of everyone else. In the end, we're all star matter, that's what we'll be when we go. Many people just don't have the time to think, because life requires their attention to their own immediate problems, they have their own responsibilities to take care of regarding themselves and families... in fact, I understand why they would say" I haven't the time for it, just deal with it". But sometimes it just isn't easy to deal at all... and their has to be those who are saying, "enough" and even when the message might understandably fail to register with those overwhelmed and somehow able to handle it, keep head above water.... we still are our brother's keeper and we have to care what happens to those struggling. We are regressing in many ways as a country, and we cannot let that continue. I might have issue with some of prescriptions progressives seem to have regarding the economy, but I wholeheartedly reject today's GOP, which cry against"socialism" but promotes everything possible that will result in the pitchforks coming out for them. And for what? The universe is not impressed by millions, or billions, one makes in life. I'd rather us have a legacy of making this planet better for whatever future generations come, and leave it at that. For one day, all this will have the universal significance of a grain of sand compared to the vastness of the heavens. Which would be quite miniscule, indeed.

The pitchforks will come, we have a two party system that has screwed over the worker since 1980. The working class in our nation is divided and needs to unite with one common goal in mind, one common cause, a better life for all. Not an equal life as far as material things go. If a person wants to live in a 5,000 sq. ft. home, then go for it. Building that home will employ the guys who live in 2,000 sq. ft homes. They will buy goods that employ people that live in apartments or mobile homes or perhaps 'starter'
homes. No one who works should be left out of the chain when it comes to life's necessities. Workers should be upwardly mobile if they choose to be and are willing to work towards that goal.

Unfortunately, the working class is fragmented. Political footballs such as race or abortion are used to divide us. The 'con'servatives dangle abortion out there and while we argue about it they pick our pockets and we don't notice, we are too busy arguing.
So called liberals think that globalization is the best idea since sliced bread and can't see past their academic fog well enough to know that the 'overpaid' (as some would suggest) blue collar jobs were an essential rung in the ladder for the worker. Too many workers and too few jobs equals stagnant low wages.

The middle class didn't appear by accident, it was planned, by FDR. The middle class hasn't disappeared by accident. It has been a diabolical planned intention plot to push the worker in to low wage jobs. So, we need to raise the minimum wage and maybe find a better term such as living wage. We have mid term elections around the corner. We will hear rhetoric about wages, healthcare, poverty and other issues. Then true to form, who ever gets elected (with a few exceptions) will report to the 1% and await their orders.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaranteed_minimum_income
The reason I specified work for it. Drop the racist bull shit. You are back on ignore, everything is not about you and your color, get over it.

Let me do you a solid, PoC will be less inclined to think you're biased if you don't harp at them [like a parent] about hard work as if it's a totally foreign concept to them. The recurring motif of your posts here is that I just wanna shove money down anybody' throat who wants it, whether they work for it or not, even the leeches who live off the govie's teat. [The poor ones, the rich ones are cool ]

Now... can we discuss this without you reminding me sixteen thousand times about work ethic? You're talking to a man who used to work two jobs, six am to three pm then four pm to midnight. I know what work is. I'm advocating better wages for people who..... wait for it..... WORK.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

The pitchforks will come, we have a two party system that has screwed over the worker since 1980.

only since nineteen eighty?

 

[Dominus]

That's what I wanted to know.

Nice quote mining.

I didn't look at the linked example, but I think cloud formations are a legitimate subject of interest.

Can you quote me where I said cloud formations aren't a legit subject of interest?

Are you trolling me?

 

[frankfrank]

umpteenquadsuperzillionbamillionquatrilliondundillion hundred thousand catillion dollars

No no it's cathillion. (Kinda letting you know I'm still here in a big cluster of activity)

Poor people are also uninformed on a lot of things, like compounded interest and checking account for free cashing of checks. This makes them perfect victims

I'll say for as long as I live (because I doubt it will ever change): THIS STUFF SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.

Parents don't always have the wherewithal to teach even the most basic essentials. A child is usually taught no better than his/her parents were. In some cases there aren't even two parents to share the load.

only since nineteen eighty?

No, but there were a lot of new tools added to wage suppression and worker exploitation at the time. Reagan fired the Air Control Workers immediately upon entering office, starting the downward spiral of the unions, and that has just alone affected a lot.