Mitt ... again?

[Kulindahr]

ack, idk how I left Nixon off my list. he's one of my favorite Presidents... so 5 2-time candidates out of the 57 or so elections we've had, only two of whom ever won (one a former President and the other a former Vice President)

if the election was held today, I'm sure Mitt would make a credible case for foreign policy brilliance. in 2 years, who knows. if he's running against top tier Republican candidates instead of clowns like Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman, though, I don't see how he makes it through the primaries even if he does run (which he doesn't seem to be giving any indication of doing regardless)

But there's no way at all that Mitt is ever going to sound credible on the economy. Regardless of Bill Clinton's defense of Romney's record, he's still a rape-and-pillage capitalist.

 

[Alucard11]

You mean like Richard Nixon?


I could see his Russia comment being seized on as his foreign policy brilliance, and his loss will be blamed on the buzzsaw of Obama's "charisma" by Republicans who don't outright hate Mitt.

I think that Russia comment will be pulled apart. I'm not certain, but from what I've read so far his stance toward Russia is based on his belief that they are "protecting" or standing in the way of a military attack on Iran's nuclear program.

Warren or Clinton can seize on it and turn his positive into a negative.

Romney doesn't seem particularly comfortable or knowledgeable debating the direction of foreign policy unless it's got something to do with trade.

If he actually wants to win, he will have to understand that the Republican base is not going to turn out for someone who they think will be getting America involved in foreign conflicts.

 

[HenryReardon]

No, his heart was totally into it. Very few, if any candidates have put more time and resources into running for President than he has .

Look at the so-called debates. He went after the other Republican candidates with fire in his eyes. But when it can to Obama, the fire had gone out. If he'd gone after Obama with the same fervor he showed against the other Republicans, he would very likely have won.

 

[TX-Beau]

So, he lost because he didn't want to win?

Strange, I thought it was the elitism and misogyny, not to mention the cult that did him in.

 

[brokegayguy]

Yes, there is -- just not as much as the Limbaugh and Beck cohort want people to believe.

The closest liberal equivalents I can think of to those guys in terms of sheer popularity and left-ness are Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. But they're comedians while Beck and Limbaugh act like serious political pundits on a mission from God or something. So yeah, if there is a liberal media, it's virtually non-existent.

Look at the so-called debates. He went after the other Republican candidates with fire in his eyes. But when it can to Obama, the fire had gone out. If he'd gone after Obama with the same fervor he showed against the other Republicans, he would very likely have won.

Eh, I always just read that as him getting arrogant and thinking he already won

 

[TX-Beau]

The closest liberal equivalents I can think of to those guys in terms of sheer popularity and left-ness are Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. But they're comedians while Beck and Limbaugh act like serious political pundits on a mission from God or something. So yeah, if there is a liberal media, it's virtually non-existent.



Eh, I always just read that as him getting arrogant and thinking he already won

(emphasis mine)

Most of MSNBC, Mother Jones, the Progressive, etc. There are Liberal and Progressive news outlets, they're just not hiding under every right wing-nut's bed just waiting to jump out and say BOOO!

 

[JackinSea]

Anyone here feel he still buys into that "White Horse Prophecy" that he's "destined" to be president?

 

[chrisrobin]

.
Adlai Stevenson (lost to 1952)
Adlai Stevenson (lost in 1956)

Eugene V. Debs (lost in 1904)
Eugene V. Debs (lost in 1908)
Eugene V. Debs (lost in 1912)
Eugene V. Debs (lost in 1920)
Are these considered modern?
C'mon Mittens.* You can do it!

*Comedians' wet dream.

 

[evanrick]

I live in a very liberal area and see the sign for his Netflix doc. everywhere.

The liberal media is very, very busy destroying the Republican candidates for 2016 before the primary, so Mitt might be the last man standing.

Any non-Demorcat running for election has to be someone who can survive the media onslaught AND the toxic brand that is the GOP.

It could very well be that Romney is that man, but how will he stack up against the likes of Elizabeth Warren? She is much more knowledgable than Obama in talking about the economy, his weakness in the debates with Romney. So now he is going to be matched up against someone who can match his strengths? Plus she is going to be very likable and it seems like she is at least partially respected by some Republicans. She is more in line to steal votes from Romney than he is from her.

Then there is H. Clinton. She has more negatives than Warren but there are independent and Democrat voters who are going to feel it is her time.

I think Clinton will win if she doesn't get outflanked in the primary again. Maybe it will be Clinton-Warren 2016? I don't think you need a mixed sex ticket to win in 2016.

indeed, a mixed ticket might even be a drag for hillary as topics of sexim - all that stuff come up.

and yes the media is coming down a little but but rightfully so, they get as tired as we do hearing the lies being broadcast all the time.

 

[Kulindahr]

Look at the so-called debates. He went after the other Republican candidates with fire in his eyes. But when it can to Obama, the fire had gone out. If he'd gone after Obama with the same fervor he showed against the other Republicans, he would very likely have won.

Because the other Republicans were idiots -- it's easy to have fervor when you go up against people who are walking intellectual disasters.

 

[Kulindahr]

The closest liberal equivalents I can think of to those guys in terms of sheer popularity and left-ness are Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. But they're comedians while Beck and Limbaugh act like serious political pundits on a mission from God or something. So yeah, if there is a liberal media, it's virtually non-existent.

Liberal in expression, yes.

The sad thing is that liberals like Stewart are so much better at stocking to facts that even as a comedian he's more respected for telling the truth than any right-wing journalist.

 

[bike10]

It spring and time for the GOP sap to start running.