most efficient poison?

[MisterMajestic]

What is the most efficient drug i can buy wich if overdosed will cause death? Im just considering it, its nothing sure yet, but id like to be ready...
I just dont want to wake up after 30 hours with damaged brain because it would only hurt my family and ill be stuck in vegetative state. I want to die or get another chance if lucky. My life was/is very bad, i dont see any realistic way of improving it, i give it a try couple more times, but if it doesnt work its over.
Perhaps you know of some better ways of doing that than drugs, point is if it takes too long/painfull i might change my mind and back out because instincts tell me to survive.

thx.

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[Snuffy]

1. Poison takes a long time to take effect and you will be in excruciating pain. Take bleach, for example. It takes DAYS.

2. Jumping off a bridge or jumping in front of a train is not always 100 per cent effective, and you could be left a mangled cripple.

3. Even with the most painless method, gas, if it's not done professionally, you could end up rescued half way after severe brain damage has taken effect. You also put the person who discovers you at risk if the gas fills the room or house. Imagine your Mom walking into the garage not realizing it's full of exhaust.

Go talk to someone. You'll feel better.

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[zoltanspawn]

I'm glad you posted here ShyOne. Welcome to JUB.

Others have offered great ideas. Another to consider...maybe you'd like to join in some of the converstions, ummm I mean arguments...that is tirades you'll find in the forums? There's lots to talk about, politics, movies, penises, games, gardening, chips, pets, sports, religion, fashion, tv, celebrities, so on and so forth. In my experience, no one here monopolizes a unique viewpoint, so don't be reticent to post. Chances are, you'll enjoy some short-order camaraderie.

 

[bankside]

Well thanks for your support, but you dont know me to help me.
I really hope that your intentions are as good as i hope, and motivations go beyond having one more tax payer living in false hopes of better tomorrow.


Ok, you interested me in anti depressant drugs, how do they work? Will i get 'high' from it, so i can let go of my problems or what. Ive tried some things in past, but none of them worked as expected - on the contrary, when i lose control im really pathetic.

I am ready to give it a try. Do i need a perscription for it, or i just can buy it in pharmacy or online? I live in uk. What would you recommend? I have rather fast metabolism so i would prefer strong ones.

I hope my problem isnt permanent, but i wasted already so much of my life that it makes me wonder, if there is still something good that can happen to me, or im just too old.
When i was younger i never wanted to live longer than 25-30 years, i considered the age after old, when all sorts of illness gets you, you start gaining weight, losing hair, hearing, sight, arthritis, all sorts of cancer, ughh...

You need a prescription, because it doesn't work as a DIY project. There are dozens of different kinds of medications that can make dozens of different adjustments to your brain chemistry. The goal is not to get you high or put you in a fog. If you have those side effects, you need to tell your doctor to adjust the prescription or try something else. The goal is to feel like you can take the next step without sucking all the energy out of you, not to put you in a walking coma. So talk to your GP, or find one.

One more thing, I'm now 16 years older than you. I've lived so much life since then that a wasted year or two doesn't matter. In the next 16 years you can waste a couple of years. Don't worry about.

 

[silosybin]

Well thanks for your support, but you dont know me to help me.
I really hope that your intentions are as good as i hope, and motivations go beyond having one more tax payer living in false hopes of better tomorrow.


Ok, you interested me in anti depressant drugs, how do they work? Will i get 'high' from it, so i can let go of my problems or what. Ive tried some things in past, but none of them worked as expected - on the contrary, when i lose control im really pathetic.

I am ready to give it a try. Do i need a perscription for it, or i just can buy it in pharmacy or online? I live in uk. What would you recommend? I have rather fast metabolism so i would prefer strong ones.

I hope my problem isnt permanent, but i wasted already so much of my life that it makes me wonder, if there is still something good that can happen to me, or im just too old.
When i was younger i never wanted to live longer than 25-30 years, i considered the age after old, when all sorts of illness gets you, you start gaining weight, losing hair, hearing, sight, arthritis, all sorts of cancer, ughh...

i have tried a couple non-prescription things, aniracetam and piracetam. they are brain supplements that improve not just mood but also memory and thought. i found that they definitely had a positive effect on my social skills. however i don't think they are as powerful as prescription anti-depressants. i haven't been on prescriptions (i might consider it at some point in my future though) but i know people who have. i really think your best bet is to talk to a professional, because everyone's brains are different, and a professional can best help you figure out what kind of treatment would be most effective for your needs. there are many different drugs with many different types of effects. some people try quite a few different ones before they decide which works best for them.

good luck. i hope you get better

 

[ShyOne89]

I will speak to my doctor about it, meanwhile i have a straightforward question - how and where do i make friends. I would like to meet someone and talk, i know from experience that people are not interested in such things, i understand that its boring. Im from uk, near chichester, do you know any places i can go?

 

[silosybin]

i don't live in the UK but you could try finding a group or something that interests you. then you can meet people with similar interests. maybe look in a local newspaper, usually in the classified section there will be listing of different social groups and something there might appeal to you. or try sites like craigslist, etc. if you can find a local LGBT group, that is a great way to meet people.

 

[LilBit]

I will speak to my doctor about it, meanwhile i have a straightforward question - how and where do i make friends. I would like to meet someone and talk, i know from experience that people are not interested in such things, i understand that its boring. Im from uk, near chichester, do you know any places i can go?

Do you have a local community center? They usually offer a variety of activities. Otherwise, you could look into a drama club, arts center, sport club, whatever kind of thing tickles your fancy. If you have an LGBT center in your area, they might offer a support group or social activities.

You could also look for volunteer activities. Volunteering is not only a great way to make friends, but it's also great for the self-esteem. Whenever I do volunteer work, it makes me feel great, even if it only takes an hour or two out of my week.

I did a quick search for community centers in the Chichester area and found this. Is that near you? If so, you may want to check out some of their activities.

 

[Officialposter]

ShyOne,
Please don't end your ONE-TIME PRECIOUS LIFE. You have loved ones who care for you, it would cripple them. You at least owe it to your parents to tell them that you are depressed and need medication. that is nothing to be assumed of , a lot of people are depressed! When you die, your ideas die, your knowledge and tenderness dies, and who knows this may cause another suicide in your family esp if you do not let them know they will blame themselves. I know every day is hard but don't put pressure on yourself and start from the basics of just being happy to wake up in the morning, LOVE YOUR SMILE, LOVE U! I stated this in my thread recently, people don't understand how important is to accept who god made you to be.

MANY PEOPLE ARE DEPRESSED, please TELL your parents!

 

[andy12]

I will speak to my doctor about it, meanwhile i have a straightforward question - how and where do i make friends. I would like to meet someone and talk, i know from experience that people are not interested in such things, i understand that its boring. Im from uk, near chichester, do you know any places i can go?

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[Telstra]

Well thanks for your support, but you dont know me to help me.
I really hope that your intentions are as good as i hope, and motivations go beyond having one more tax payer living in false hopes of better tomorrow.


Ok, you interested me in anti depressant drugs, how do they work? Will i get 'high' from it, so i can let go of my problems or what. Ive tried some things in past, but none of them worked as expected - on the contrary, when i lose control im really pathetic.

I am ready to give it a try. Do i need a perscription for it, or i just can buy it in pharmacy or online? I live in uk. What would you recommend? I have rather fast metabolism so i would prefer strong ones.

I hope my problem isnt permanent, but i wasted already so much of my life that it makes me wonder, if there is still something good that can happen to me, or im just too old.
When i was younger i never wanted to live longer than 25-30 years, i considered the age after old, when all sorts of illness gets you, you start gaining weight, losing hair, hearing, sight, arthritis, all sorts of cancer, ughh...

Your English is very good.
Are you able to go to a non-English speaking country to teach English ?

Good things may happened if you go overseas ...
You are son young. You haven't experience life yet. Wait until you are over 60 and then decide.

 

[Officialposter]

I want to feature you on my website www.OrdinarySacrifices.com

Because you are special, I want you to sacrifice being depressed alone. Tell your parents... don't leave yor life without trying every option.. Sacrifice 'giving up on life' and live.. with your permission would love for you to tell us the sacrifices you've made in your life doesn't matter how small and i want to spotlight you on my site BECAUSE ordinarypeople care REMEMBER EVERYDAY YOU ARE ALIVE IS A SUCCESS

We will spotlight you simply as Shyguy89

 

[roadtripboy]

Everyone has given really good advice.

Depression is hard. I've had the same thoughts you've had. I agree please go see your doctor.

This may sound strange but what helped was to get mad. Mad, because I'm a good person and deserve the same seemly happy life everyone else had. It helped to get mad and say "fuck all of you, I WILL have a good life".
I was tormented everyday at school from grade 6 to grade 12. Guess what all of those people turned out to be losers. Even though I'm currently unemployed, I still have a better life than any of them.

Please I'm begging you...don't do this. We will ALL be heartbroken.

 

[RonR18]

You think what kind of help will i get?
It wont fix my life, im 21 and did nothing in my life. I havent even finished school
The most painfull thing is that im alone, i dont know the reason, possibly im brain damaged and cant make a friend even if i get all the help in the world.
People just dont like me, i cant make smalltalk, cant even start conversation. There is something wrong with me, and there is no way of changing it.
Survival of the fittest, too bad im not one of them. Of course i can live like this, but whats the point. I dont have anything good from life, only constant struggle and problems.
So help is a good idea for someone with 'problems', but what is the temporary problem/crysis for one person is a way of life for me. I do not fit into this world, my existance is just wrong and unless this change by miracle i feel a need to end it. I feel like a machine, i see people around laughing, having fun, being together, and i just cant do that.
If i try and make first step, it might work, but after first step there is another and another, each of them harder as people know me better and sense im 'incompatible'. Sooner of later im rejected, ignored. Ive tried coming along with people in work places (yes, i worked in many places, cant saty on one because of reasons above) and its the same history over and over again. If i wont be rejected at start, i will be in the next few days. After a week everyone will ignore me at best, worst case scenario is they will insult me and make me feel bad.

So you see, suicide is a way of fixing this problem. Unless you know of technology wich can alter my brain, its the only viable solution.

It sounds like shyness and poor social skills is at the root of your problems. And there's plenty of excellent, free info on these issues. Just Google, "How to overcome shyness," and "How to improve social skills." Here's a good start:

http://thinksimplenow.com/happiness/20-ways-to-attack-shyness/

http://www.positivityblog.com/index...ocial-skills-8-tips-from-the-last-2500-years/

But if you lack the motivation to tackle and absorb that info, and, "Tips on how to motivate yourself" don't help," then your brain chemistry obviously needs to be altered, and you'll have to get started on some effective anti-depressant medication, as others have already pointed out.

"Knowledge is power," and it can solve virtually any problem you have.

 

[MindBlast]

happen to me, or im just too old.
When i was younger i never wanted to live longer than 25-30 years, i considered the age after old, when all sorts of illness gets you, you start gaining weight, losing hair, hearing, sight, arthritis, all sorts of cancer, ughh...

You're not too old. Not even close. People have turned their life around at twice your age.

And if you don't believe me that older men can be hot, check out www.bigmuscle.com, tons of hot guys, most over 30 or 40.

 

[Nomenclature]

Shyone: You go on talking like you MUST have some sort of brain disease. . .and yet you've never even been diagnosed with anything!

In addition to having support from us here, I highly recommend that you see a therapist. That isn't an insult; they'll greatly help you. . .and can set you on the path to having a healthy social life, among other things.


Just try it.

 

[ShyOne89]

.and yet you've never even been diagnosed with anything!

Well thats not true. I have some papers regarding my mental condition, its nothing serious or even conclusive, but still.

And to address my social life, can you give me an example what to do to improve it? I dont want to make a fool of myself doing something stupid.

 

[hotb0d]

oh nothing you do in your social life will be as stupid as killing yourself.

You're already at the bottom, nothing but up from here on out. Think like that and you'll see the brightness in your day.

 

[blackbeltninja]

And to address my social life, can you give me an example what to do to improve it? I dont want to make a fool of myself doing something stupid.

Is there no society or something you might find interesting? A film club, perhaps, or wine-tasting, or anything you enjoy where you could meet and talk with people who have similar interests. I think that would be a good start.

Otherwise perhaps something more physical - a runners' club or a social/sunday-league football team.

-d-

 

[RonR18]

Well thats not true. I have some papers regarding my mental condition, its nothing serious or even conclusive, but still.

And to address my social life, can you give me an example what to do to improve it? I dont want to make a fool of myself doing something stupid.

In order to improve your social life, you first have to improve your social skills.

8 time-tested tips on improving your social skills that have survived over the centuries:

http://www.positivityblog.com/index...ocial-skills-8-tips-from-the-last-2500-years/