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Movie Review - Ayor Studios - Buddies 2 with Screen Caps
- Thread starter Andel_mx
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Thanks a lot aj for your work, both the description and the caps. You might be right about the lack of rimming, but I'll take no rimming any day over the endless air-rimming which some producers in Prague seem to favor.
About Dominik Trojan, he can still be seen doing his thing on the ayorstudios.com website. Some nice postcards from Ibiza are being posted there, in the free section. The address is:
http://www.ayorstudios.com/buddies/index.php
Enjoy!
About Dominik Trojan, he can still be seen doing his thing on the ayorstudios.com website. Some nice postcards from Ibiza are being posted there, in the free section. The address is:
http://www.ayorstudios.com/buddies/index.php
Enjoy!
Twinkspunker
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Robert Boggs' stuff always looks great but, all too often, only offers very repetitive and boring sex scenes. The original Buddies was very good though, and thankfully Buddies 2 is well up there with it. Zebro and Trojan fans (like me!) will enjoy it particularly. Ajacobs is correct to point out the very disapointing lack of rimming and penetration shots (this is very much a Boggs trait unfortunately - several other Czech producers seem to be able to deliver this action) to which I'd add that I'd also be happier with a few more facial cumshot endings. Still, the cast is excellent (although I'd agree with ajacobs again - Joe Donovan just doesn't do anything for me either) and it's good to see Mark Zebro give a rare bottoming performance. I especially enjoyed meeting Sam Hoffman and look forward to seeing him sit on some more cock! All in all this title is one of Boggs' better releases.
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hey, thanks ajacobs!
the review was great, nice work...
i'm sure i've said it before but i'm a big dominik trojan fan... have been looking forward to buddies 2 for some time...so now i'm all the more impatient!
keep up the sterling work!
the review was great, nice work...
i'm sure i've said it before but i'm a big dominik trojan fan... have been looking forward to buddies 2 for some time...so now i'm all the more impatient!
keep up the sterling work!
Twinkspunker
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ajacobs - it's just that in so many of his movies the sex scenes are so predictable and formulaic (and that's apart from the total lack of such activities as rimming and fingering or ass play). I've seen several where EVERY scene has been A sucks B, B sucks A, A fucks B in a standing doggy postion, A & B cum on each other's chests. That use of a single fuck position (and it's usually that doggy one for some strange reason)is becoming something of a joke in Boggs' films- even in his best stuff like Buddies you'll be lucky to get more than one change of position in most of the scenes. Just very unimaginative, and rarely allows us a good look at the guys' bodies. It's not even as though he uses those fixed positions for some creative camera work - the guys just grind away in their predetermined stance for ten minues or so and we get to observe it from two or three camera locations. And if I see that standing doggy stlye fucking in another scene I think I'll scream - how dull was that episode with super hot Dominik and Patrik V. in Buddies 2 for example? What a waste of talent - I've watched paint dry more interestingly!
I challenge you to give me one title that has as you say EVERY scene following the EXACT pattern you mention.
Twinkspunker
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I'm not falling for that old trick!! I name a title and you find a couple of examples of deviation from his general formula thereby demolishing my finely crafted argument in one dismissive repost? No, why don't you name a title where he uses more than one position for the fucking in MOST (you see I've relaxed the conditions for you!) one-on-one scenes and he doesn't use that damn standing doggy fuck in several of them. I'll let you off also having that title include any rimming, fingering or indeed penetration shots as that would just make the task too difficult....
Asking you to speak accurately is an old trick ? Hmmm. Not where I come from.
Robert Boggs never has a film with only one-on-one scenes like Jan Novak's Night Eyes, which you enjoyed so much (speak of formulaic and boring!!). He never in a ten years' career has made a film with NO VERSATILITY WHATSOEVER like Jan Novak just did. He never has a scene with prolonged fake rimming like in the first scene of that other film you enjoyed so much, that masterpiece of gay porn, Dreams Come True. (He never has a 3way where #3 mysteriously leaves when fucking is about to start and is never seen again, as Hammer now has in EVERY film.)
There is rimming when the models feel like doing it and enjoy it. Sebastian Stone always does it, I believe, and Mark Zebro does it in the film you hated so much you couldn't even watch it, the misnamed Summer Sex Camp. And Buddies 1 has in most scenes, actually all scenes save the one outdoor scene, more than one fuck position, simply because it's mostly bed scenes (or indoor scenes, like the first fuck in the club), and this is a natural thing to do. When Boggs does outdoor scenes, he does indeed have relatively brief fuck sequences in one position, because he is trying to keep the rhythm of the film and save some sense of a story. Just like Cadinot always does. But I guess you prefer Novak and Hammerschmidt to Cadinot too. But again in the latest Blöc film, the opening and closing 3ways have all the variety one can wish.
As to penetration shots, I suppose you mean a sequence where we're supposed to witness the first insertion, with accompanying winces on the part of the bottom? A la Vlado Iresch? Indeed that's not what turns him on and the fucking is usually shown already in midflight. But the scene of Adam Kubick and Mark Zebro in Buddies 1 however, to name just one recent example, had lots of insertions, reinsertions, etc...you name it. Because these are two of the best performers there ever was and they can do it, they work perfectly together and show they enjoy it. That's really the only test of a good scene for him, not how much pain the bottom shows and/or experiences, not some laundry list of must haves, which are just fetishes. I was rewatching last weekend a great classic of "twink porn", Larry Bronco's Camp YMAC, from the early 80s. I don't know anyone who doesn't think that's a scorcher of a film, in spite of technical shortcomings. Just five models, under 60 minutes, I believe, but they just keep going. Well, everyone in it fucks and gets fucked, and a lot, 2ways morph into 3ways, and more, the fuck segments never go on forever, no one segment is like another, and there is not ONE, not ONE SINGLE "penetration shot" in the whole film. If that makes it a bad movie for you, you really don't know what you're missing.
Robert Boggs never has a film with only one-on-one scenes like Jan Novak's Night Eyes, which you enjoyed so much (speak of formulaic and boring!!). He never in a ten years' career has made a film with NO VERSATILITY WHATSOEVER like Jan Novak just did. He never has a scene with prolonged fake rimming like in the first scene of that other film you enjoyed so much, that masterpiece of gay porn, Dreams Come True. (He never has a 3way where #3 mysteriously leaves when fucking is about to start and is never seen again, as Hammer now has in EVERY film.)
There is rimming when the models feel like doing it and enjoy it. Sebastian Stone always does it, I believe, and Mark Zebro does it in the film you hated so much you couldn't even watch it, the misnamed Summer Sex Camp. And Buddies 1 has in most scenes, actually all scenes save the one outdoor scene, more than one fuck position, simply because it's mostly bed scenes (or indoor scenes, like the first fuck in the club), and this is a natural thing to do. When Boggs does outdoor scenes, he does indeed have relatively brief fuck sequences in one position, because he is trying to keep the rhythm of the film and save some sense of a story. Just like Cadinot always does. But I guess you prefer Novak and Hammerschmidt to Cadinot too. But again in the latest Blöc film, the opening and closing 3ways have all the variety one can wish.
As to penetration shots, I suppose you mean a sequence where we're supposed to witness the first insertion, with accompanying winces on the part of the bottom? A la Vlado Iresch? Indeed that's not what turns him on and the fucking is usually shown already in midflight. But the scene of Adam Kubick and Mark Zebro in Buddies 1 however, to name just one recent example, had lots of insertions, reinsertions, etc...you name it. Because these are two of the best performers there ever was and they can do it, they work perfectly together and show they enjoy it. That's really the only test of a good scene for him, not how much pain the bottom shows and/or experiences, not some laundry list of must haves, which are just fetishes. I was rewatching last weekend a great classic of "twink porn", Larry Bronco's Camp YMAC, from the early 80s. I don't know anyone who doesn't think that's a scorcher of a film, in spite of technical shortcomings. Just five models, under 60 minutes, I believe, but they just keep going. Well, everyone in it fucks and gets fucked, and a lot, 2ways morph into 3ways, and more, the fuck segments never go on forever, no one segment is like another, and there is not ONE, not ONE SINGLE "penetration shot" in the whole film. If that makes it a bad movie for you, you really don't know what you're missing.
Twinkspunker
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Sorry Jerome, I thought by my liberal use of smilies you might recognise that I was being just a bit tongue in cheek.
You must realise it is my role to provide the world with the occassional, tiny counterbalance to your weighty championing of Boggs' genius! (I see it as similar to the position once held by the centurion in ancient Rome who stood behind the ceasars, as they were paraded triumphantly through the city receiving the adulation of the populous, whispering "remember you are but mortal"!)
You are however being a little presumptive in thinking you know what I like - I wouldn't suggest for a moment that because Novak has made one or two enjoyable films (which he has, and haven't you praised him in the past?) his model should be universally adopted (I for one would soon be bored if it was). I certainly wouldn't put Hammerschmidt in the same league as Cadinot (who incidentally I've admired and collected since you could only obtain his stuff in the UK on fourth generation VHS copies in illegal back street porn shops in the UK). Methinks you take this all a bit too seriously.
You must realise it is my role to provide the world with the occassional, tiny counterbalance to your weighty championing of Boggs' genius! (I see it as similar to the position once held by the centurion in ancient Rome who stood behind the ceasars, as they were paraded triumphantly through the city receiving the adulation of the populous, whispering "remember you are but mortal"!)
You are however being a little presumptive in thinking you know what I like - I wouldn't suggest for a moment that because Novak has made one or two enjoyable films (which he has, and haven't you praised him in the past?) his model should be universally adopted (I for one would soon be bored if it was). I certainly wouldn't put Hammerschmidt in the same league as Cadinot (who incidentally I've admired and collected since you could only obtain his stuff in the UK on fourth generation VHS copies in illegal back street porn shops in the UK). Methinks you take this all a bit too seriously.
myshak
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hey boys!can't you guys just agree to disagree..?
there are enough great czech movies around to suit all tastes, i'm sure...
and while boggs, iresch, komar and now hammerschmidt mostly use the same boys
we, lucky things, get to see what we like...
by the way hierosme i agree about the scene with mark and adam. it's way hot!
Sorry for taking time before coming back to this.
Was my response harsh? Possibly. The thing is, I didn't notice any of those smilies in the posts where inaccurate things (for lack of a stronger word) were said about films I feel very strongly about. Taste is not something one should argue about. But at least, watch the damn things before passing judgment. I most certainly never used the word "genius" you seem to find so funny. What Boggs does is very simple indeed, as simple as that standing from behind position that seems to throw you into such tantrums. He just tries to represent gay sex between real (and beautiful) people in a very attractive and believable way. A quite limited ambition. And yet, he's pretty much the only one doing what he does. And it's so easy to miss it if one presses the fastforwarding button. Aj took the time and went to the trouble of writing his review and making captures to account for the effect this film had on him. Another poster just mentioned the scene of Adam and Mark in Buddies 1. Indeed it is an amazing love scene, which is also a great fuck scene, where we never forget how much loving and tenderness goes on between the two characters. I could say the same thing for the two scenes of Mark with Samuel in Buddies 2, except they are very different scenes.
I don't think I was assuming things about what you like, I was referring to two reviews you wrote. Of course, putting Hammerschmidt and Novak in the same sentence is outrageous. But, if I may venture one remark, I think a lot of what you often mock and criticize in Bel Ami is very close to what Novak does. One pet theory of mine is that the formulaic aspect of one side of Bel Ami goes back to the time Novak was their General Manager and comes from his influence. I may be unduly severe and critical of Novak, but how come that now he is his own master he puts out such lukewarm and bland films? We'll see what the (near) future holds, now that Bel Ami is open to other, less "American" influences.
Was my response harsh? Possibly. The thing is, I didn't notice any of those smilies in the posts where inaccurate things (for lack of a stronger word) were said about films I feel very strongly about. Taste is not something one should argue about. But at least, watch the damn things before passing judgment. I most certainly never used the word "genius" you seem to find so funny. What Boggs does is very simple indeed, as simple as that standing from behind position that seems to throw you into such tantrums. He just tries to represent gay sex between real (and beautiful) people in a very attractive and believable way. A quite limited ambition. And yet, he's pretty much the only one doing what he does. And it's so easy to miss it if one presses the fastforwarding button. Aj took the time and went to the trouble of writing his review and making captures to account for the effect this film had on him. Another poster just mentioned the scene of Adam and Mark in Buddies 1. Indeed it is an amazing love scene, which is also a great fuck scene, where we never forget how much loving and tenderness goes on between the two characters. I could say the same thing for the two scenes of Mark with Samuel in Buddies 2, except they are very different scenes.
I don't think I was assuming things about what you like, I was referring to two reviews you wrote. Of course, putting Hammerschmidt and Novak in the same sentence is outrageous. But, if I may venture one remark, I think a lot of what you often mock and criticize in Bel Ami is very close to what Novak does. One pet theory of mine is that the formulaic aspect of one side of Bel Ami goes back to the time Novak was their General Manager and comes from his influence. I may be unduly severe and critical of Novak, but how come that now he is his own master he puts out such lukewarm and bland films? We'll see what the (near) future holds, now that Bel Ami is open to other, less "American" influences.