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MTV's RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins

I don't remember him bullying anynone on the Duel.

While he was less confrontational than normal he still taunted Casey at a couple points, made a few moments to talk about how awesome he was and of course got all up in CT's face (figuratively only. He didn't go near him physically) only after CT had been eliminated by Brad.
 
Well CT is a douche so bonus points for Wes to stand up for himself and Csey is a bitch who should have left over Brianna. Anything Wes did to her, she deserved :)
 
the people that are greatly missed are


Mike(The Mizz)
Theo
Melissa
Chadwick
Yes
Eric Nies
Alton
Irene
Beth
Coral
Rachael
Katie
the gay guy that is from new orleans that was having a relationship with the miliary guy, i think his name is Jason??



I want a freakin Duel 3 with teams Old School vs New School. With New school/old school hosts Jonny Moseley & TJ Lavin. Actually mix it up with people who we don't see every season (I guess my own fantasy team bias). That would be awesome & the best part would be old school kicking new school's ass (besides Svetlana)!!!!!

Team Old School

Eric (RW NY)
Mark (RR 1)
Miz (RW B2NY)
Brad (RW SD)
Laterrian (RR Max Velosity)
Shane (RR Campus Crawl)
Adam (RR Quest)
Steven (RW LV)
Abe (RR S Pac)
Alton (RW LV)
Syrus (RW Boston)
Jamie (RW NO)
David (RW Seattle)
Theo (RR Max Velosity)
Yes (RR Semester @ Sea)
Beth (RW LA)
Robin (RW SD)
Jisela (RR Quest)
Aneesa (RW Chi)
Tonya (RW Chi)
Trishelle (RW LV)
Tina (RR S Pac)
Julie (RW NO)
Coral (B2NY)
Lori (RW B2NY)
Katie (RR Quest)
Veronica (RR Semester @ Sea)
Ruthie (RW HI)
Susie (RR Down Under)
Melissa (RW NO)



Team New School

Kenny (Fresh meat)
Derrick (RR Xtreme)
Danny (RW Austin)
Johnny (RW KW)
Joey (RW Hollywood)
Nick (RW Hollywood)
CJ (RW Cancun)
Bronne (RW Cancun)
Derek (RW Cancun)
Dave (RW Hollywood)
Evan (Fresh meat)
Scott (RW BK)
Chet (RW BK)
Dunbar (RW Sydney)
Kina (RR Xtreme)
Diem (Fresh meat)
Ev (Fresh meat)
Paula (RW KW)
KellyAnne (RW Sydney)
Shauvon (RW Sydney)
Tori (RR Viewers Revenge)
Kim (RW Hollywood)
Bri (RW Hollywood)
Brooke (RW Denver)
Jen (RW Denver)
Svetlana (RW KW)
Johanna (RW Austin)
Jonna (RW Cancun)
Jasmine (RW Cancun)
Ryan (Fresh meat)
 
Well CT is a douche so bonus points for Wes to stand up for himself and Csey is a bitch who should have left over Brianna. Anything Wes did to her, she deserved :)

This happened LONG before anyhting that had to do with Brianna and Casey. Casey is not the best competitor but she seems like a nice enough girl. Wes was BRUTAL to her in Fresh Meat... which is marginally understandable as he was tethered to her (BY HIS CHOICE. Before the show started the Veterans picked their rookies and Shane said Wes, who was with the supposed love of his life Johanna ON THE SHOW, chose Casey because he thought she was hot). But there was no reason for him to continue to taunt and make fun of her in the duel but he did, because he's a bully. Because he knew she was weak and he COULD.

Just like the incident with CT. CT has ALWAYS been a douche but Wes wasn't "standing up for himself" in any way shape or form. Brad beat CT in "Push it" through a technicality. CT was moaning as he walked out the door and Wes suddenly grew some balls because CT was down and he had the opportunity to kick him. The reality was very clear. Wes got VERY lucky that CT ripped the flag rather than unhooked it and knew he'd be going into the final duel with Brad instead of CT, who had the second best record that season (behind already eliminated Evan). Then and ONLY then, after becoming top dog did Wes decide to start verbally berating CT for no real reason about somethign that didn't involve him.

He's a bitch who screams at people who are positions of insecurity and weakness while pounding his chest. He's no better than the rest of them. In fact I think he's worse because they seem to do it in the name of the game and Wes just seems to view life that way.
 
This episode was so awesome and it was because of true challenge godesses (Tonya, Veronica and Katie) I love me some Tonya but she was in the wrong, she brought up old old shit that happened years ago so hell yea I'm on Team Veronica<3

Tonya needs to stop trying to get folks to feel sorry for her, stop drinking and they will lol. That said this whole shit started because of Evan and Kenny. Seriously these guys have been getting away with shit like this for years. The challenges are not fun because of them, they suck! GAG@Evan after the whole Tonya/Veronica incident. Did he seriously blame Veronica? Did he suddenly act like he cared for Tonya? Fake ass motherfucker

Katie Vs Sarah was fun lol... The challenge was so intense lol. Sidenote I really hate both Casey and Susie, useless bitches for real.
 
This episode was so awesome and it was because of true challenge godesses (Tonya, Veronica and Katie) I love me some Tonya but she was in the wrong, she brought up old old shit that happened years ago so hell yea I'm on Team Veronica<3

Tonya needs to stop trying to get folks to feel sorry for her, stop drinking and they will lol. That said this whole shit started because of Evan and Kenny. Seriously these guys have been getting away with shit like this for years. The challenges are not fun because of them, they suck! GAG@Evan after the whole Tonya/Veronica incident. Did he seriously blame Veronica? Did he suddenly act like he cared for Tonya? Fake ass motherfucker

Katie Vs Sarah was fun lol... The challenge was so intense lol. Sidenote I really hate both Casey and Susie, useless bitches for real.

lol, ditto on everything
except sometimes, i DO feel sorry for tonya :(
 
While he was less confrontational than normal he still taunted Casey at a couple points, made a few moments to talk about how awesome he was and of course got all up in CT's face (figuratively only. He didn't go near him physically) only after CT had been eliminated by Brad.

Yes, and I do recall him calling Casey "A Stupid Bitch".
 
Danny was looking hotter than ever in his interviews. God I wanted to fuck that boy!

I don't blame Sarah for laughing at all. I like Katie and I was bursting out laughing the whole time even before they showed Sarah laughing. How can you not laugh at her crazy voice.

Tonya is the same thing at first then you feel sorry for her because she's not as tough and you know her pain and anger will laugh. The part where she's talking to Wes and then midconversation just captures and eats a fly out of no where was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on these challenges. She needs help for the drinking problem and therapy because she has a whole lot of scars that haven't gone a way.

The challengers are so stupid and might've missed their only chance to get rid of Casey. They finally won a challenge in the last episode just because Derrick screwed up and they didn't send Casey in. The Champions aren't champions for no reason, they're smart and know how to play the game. They're not stupid enough to get rid of Casey.
 
Just like the incident with CT. CT has ALWAYS been a douche but Wes wasn't "standing up for himself" in any way shape or form. Brad beat CT in "Push it" through a technicality. CT was moaning as he walked out the door and Wes suddenly grew some balls because CT was down and he had the opportunity to kick him. The reality was very clear. Wes got VERY lucky that CT ripped the flag rather than unhooked it and knew he'd be going into the final duel with Brad instead of CT, who had the second best record that season (behind already eliminated Evan). Then and ONLY then, after becoming top dog did Wes decide to start verbally berating CT for no real reason about somethign that didn't involve him.

Maybe Wes was wrong in yelling at Casey but CT deserved it. He already saw Beth lose to Svetlana just because she ripped the flag and he went and did the same thing then exploaded on Brad just because he lost. He was a complete poorsport who was going crazy and needed to be told to shut up.
 
Sorry but I'm on Team Tonya here. We all know she's not playing with a full deck of cards and I think the time just came to where she snapped. Veronica is an awful little skank (has been for years)...she got what she deserved.

Now all we need is for Kenny and Evan to get what's coming to them.
 
I like Tonya and feel somewhat sorry for her. Hopefully she gets it together. i miss seeing CT this season!
 
This episode was so awesome and it was because of true challenge godesses (Tonya, Veronica and Katie) I love me some Tonya but she was in the wrong, she brought up old old shit that happened years ago so hell yea I'm on Team Veronica<3

Tonya needs to stop trying to get folks to feel sorry for her, stop drinking and they will lol. That said this whole shit started because of Evan and Kenny. Seriously these guys have been getting away with shit like this for years. The challenges are not fun because of them, they suck! GAG@Evan after the whole Tonya/Veronica incident. Did he seriously blame Veronica? Did he suddenly act like he cared for Tonya? Fake ass motherfucker

Katie Vs Sarah was fun lol... The challenge was so intense lol. Sidenote I really hate both Casey and Susie, useless bitches for real.


Of course we all knew the blow up was going to come via so many ads for the slap down. It was hard to watch simply because so many of these people are pathetic. Kenny and Evan egging everything on until it blows completely out of hand. The show's producers allow too much to go forward when they know someone like Tonya is losing it. No one who is that much of a drop down drunk should be allowed to participate. They are risking lives. Then Kenny and Evan going all good guys and woeful over Tonya afterwards. Slime doesn't get any more vile that they are.

Katie is gone and that is a good thing. Tonya is gone and that is by far the best thing for her. She needs to get into rehab and stay there until her system can handle her misfortunes.

The producers of these shows are enablers to drunks like Tonya, Katie, Veronica and CT.

What is going to bring about my man Brad getting knocked down? Is that going to be a drunken rage too?

It was such an unpleasant show to watch last night because seeing people's lives torn asunder is a hard thing to look upon.
 
Maybe Wes was wrong in yelling at Casey but CT deserved it. He already saw Beth lose to Svetlana just because she ripped the flag and he went and did the same thing then exploaded on Brad just because he lost. He was a complete poorsport who was going crazy and needed to be told to shut up.

Yes because clearly the way to deal with an unstable and violent person who's at this point not even acknowledging you is to insert yourself into the conflict by taunting them from the sidelines. Right?

No. He's just a prick. When CT went home he knew he had the competition won so he decided to start shit that didn't involve him. I mean CT is a douche and so is Johny and so is Evan and so is Kenny but so is Wes. They all are. And the fact they are against each other at different points doesn't mean I have to side with anyone. They're all jack asses.
 
This was a great episode though I'm sad to see Katie go, perhaps for good. I love her crazy ass. He anger for Sarah was totally irrational so I really can't hold anything against Sarah and I probably wouldn't even like Katie if I hadn't loved her already. I wish she'd won but in the end she went out with a bang, as Gauntlet/Inferno Katie made an appearance.

I loathe Veronica and love that Tonya beat her ass though I really don't care that Tonya herself is no longer there. Now that Veronica is out of the fold with Evan she might actually be doing some super bitch strategizing to break up the douche trio and I'm confident that the evil powers of Veronica could accomplish as much. She's one of the last players before the onslaught of the douchebags who actually played the game. I may find myself on team Veronica, even though I'll still hate her ass, if this materializes.

All and all I don't understand why the Challangers are upset when they lose people. I've never seen a final challenge where you actually benefit from having more people. Most the time they're just races.

Also was anyone else disappointed in Danny's physique during the swimming challenge? He looks like he would be ripped with his shirt on but no such luck.
 
God, I LOVED seeing Tonya smack the fuck out of Veronica. My only thing is, why didn't she do more??? She knows violence gets you sent home. If she were going to do something, she should've gone all the way and beat the everliving shit out of her.
 
That episode was kind of uncomfortable to watch, it is obvious Tonya has some issues, but to see Johnny, Kenny, and Evan mess with her the way they did was wrong. They are the biggest douches to come on these challenges and I hope they go home soon.

I don't like Darell at all on this challenge, it seems some the Johnny, Kenny, and Evans douchiness is rubbing off on him, he used to seem like a nice guy.

I loved the battle between Sarah and Katie and the trash talking it was funny, I really like Sarah I hope she does well.
 
MTV's really gonna get themselves in some shit sooner or later. absolutely no argument that Veronica's been BEGGING for an asswhoopin', but Tonya's just a mess. they had to know that sooner or later she was gonna lose her friggin' mind and jump a bitch.

gotta agree with the comment on Darrell's personality shift. he used to be a super chill guy, but it seems he's spent a little too much time with the douche crew. brotha's still fine though;)

lost a bit of respect for Katie after she blew up at Sarah. don't even like Sarah, but Katie's attitude towards her was ridiculous. still, i hope she's bullshitting about this being her last challenge. usually she's one of the few worth watching.

might catch some hell for this, but i gotta say that Wes is lookin' HOT this season. he's still an ass, but he's nice to look at. don't even trip, Falcon.....
 
I just want to say this about the majority of these competitors. They are not kids anymore, most have been around a long time and most seem not to have learned a damn thing about life and compassion. Tonya was someone they could all laugh at when she was turbulent and/or a falling down drunk. Evan and Kenny and Johnny aided by Veronica and Susie and Katie all baited her when she was at her weakest and most vulnerable. To me that is inexcusable.

It is inexcusable for MTV to aid and abet such behavior even as it might make for sleazy good entertainment. The show has become a show about the people and not about the challenges or the people doing the challenges. It has become a cheesy soap opera and these loons (save Brad and a minute few) revel in their own stupidity.
 
Now that Veronica is out of the fold with Evan she might actually be doing some super bitch strategizing to break up the douche trio and I'm confident that the evil powers of Veronica could accomplish as much.
I hope you're right. The problem with all the others is that while they may be distasteful people, they're also petty. Veronica is more in the Medea/Clytemnestra league; that's evil I can root for. :)

As far as Tonya goes, can therapy even help? Every time she's been on, she's been in some sort of counseling or rehab; I get the feeling that she's already heard everything she could possibly hear. She should be taken to some desert island and forced to dry out for at least a year -- we already know Walla Walla isn't remote enough. :)

Evan et al. and their retroactive concern was ridiculous, and it pains me to say it, but Wes was right. Tonya got fired up over something Veronica said five years ago. The fact that Tonya remembered at all is remarkable enough, but that she's still holding a grudge after so long is truly astounding. So, according to the Evan axis, Veronica should have anticipated Tonya's reaction to that, but their own actions were just good clean fun. Nonsense.
All and all I don't understand why the Challangers are upset when they lose people. I've never seen a final challenge where you actually benefit from having more people. Most the time they're just races.
Right again. And this time, when they win challenges, they get more money when there are fewer divvying up the pie. I think people like Brad, Danny, and Cohutta are unoriginal to the point that they simply spout sports clichés without stopping to think whether or not they apply.

Although, in this swimming challenge, I think the Champions did get an advantage in that they didn't have anyone who had to swim more than once. Is this right?
 
God, I LOVED seeing Tonya smack the fuck out of Veronica. My only thing is, why didn't she do more??? She knows violence gets you sent home. If she were going to do something, she should've gone all the way and beat the everliving shit out of her.

She was trying to but Evan, Wes, and Johnny got in there and seperated them. If they didn't do anything then the fight would've gone on longer.
 
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