My Father in his corduroys and t shirt

[RACERX71]

Hey ever here of free speech ? its a forum for commenting buddy if you cant stand the heat get out of the fucking kitchen !!!!

 

[eric55]

Hey ever here of free speech ? its a forum for commenting buddy if you cant stand the heat get out of the fucking kitchen !!!!

Actually, this is a forum for people to explore their interests and fantasies. The thread in particular involves sexual feelings about this guys dad. It's TOTALLY clear from the onset what the topic is. The thread is NOT called, "why don't you open up and tell me what you think of my fantasy", or "I'm feeling sexy, why don't you piss on my parade".

Yes, being that it's a free country, you're free to air your opinions all you want. Perhaps you would consider opening a thread of your own and call it "come see why I'm morally superior to others" and we can all avoid it and your free ranging judgmental bull shit.

Ever hear of "treat others the way you expect them to treat you"? How would you enjoy it if every twink forum was peppered with comments about skinny teenagers and the morality of sexually objectifying boys half the average viewer's age.....

The point remains. Keep your opinions to yourself, and if you can't, post them elsewhere. Your freedoms end where they prevent others from enjoying theirs.

 

[snapcat]

To be clear, Incest, and particularly father-son incest, has been a legitimate fetish for ages. And since this is the fetish forum, this would be the place to talk about it. Nifty.org has a whole category of stories devoted to just this topic.

 

[RACERX71]

Ok ok point well taken . however Twinks in there 20s are a little more acceptable behavior for guys to ogle than ogleing ones own father . I guess if you pole people some might feel homosexuality is just as bad as incest ! Its just our society ! so with that said you are right and do have my deepest apologies i have always said do what ever floats your boat as long as it does not involve animals or children ! they do not have a choice ! I leave you guys to get on with your fatherly thoughts

 

[hermanding]

that protesting indicates problems within the protester. usually a defense mechanism against the very desires being deplored
ding

 

[snapcat]

Given that this is a Forum devoted to fetish and fantasy, can the Mods give out warnings\points\expulsions to guys with nothing better to do than rain on other people's parades?

And can the Mods delete the posts that just say "Ick! I'm grossed out"? They contribute nothing to the thread, the Forum, or the JUB experience

I will confer with the other mods on this. I know that we do that in the Daddies/bears Forum. We might want to consider that for here as well. We don't want to squash free speech, but it does seem disingenous to post negative comments about a fetish in the fetish forum.

I'll get back to everyone about this ...

 

[bulge]

HI, I find this all very interesting.

As a very young child I was sent to boarding school thousands of miles from home and felt isolated. When I came home on school hols I can remember being lonely at home as well, as I had no friends. Both my parents worked and on more than one occassion I can remember going into my parents bathroom and rummaging round. I can remember smelling my mothers dressing gown, her perfume and missing her so much. It was a way of being close to her. Years later when I walk passed someone who is wearing the same perfume it reminds me of her.

There is nothing sexual in my fantasy as I am gay. Smells and the way we smell are very important and control a lot of our behavior. A young man adoring his father may cross over accepted norms but was he doing anything more than I was? Most young men love their father and if the truth be told, would love to be able to express more emotion towards them. We feel that as men we had best not, due to social conditioning.

If we start to judge people for their thought then we are really sliding down a very slippery path. Fantasy is just that and is a very normal part of most men's lives. Most of us never have the chance nor would we really want to act them out. Half the enjoyment it that they are just that, Fantasy.

If boys could express their feelings towards their fathers at a young age, I think there would be less hostility and aggressivity afterwards. But I am afraid as men are trained now (no feelings between men whatsoever and especially nothing that could suggest homosexuality), we have reached the point of no return.

 

[sunbuns99]

I will confer with the other mods on this. I know that we do that in the Daddies/bears Forum. We might want to consider that for here as well. We don't want to squash free speech, but it does seem disingenous to post negative comments about a fetish in the fetish forum.
I'll get back to everyone about this ...

I have brought up this issue too.. on other post in this Forum. So it's about time the Mods and JUB does something more than just decry the lack of tolerance!

However, it IS important to realize actually WHY / WHAT / WHO is really making these negative comments. People who are already see themselves as placed in the lowest ranks of society are the very ones most likely seek even lower objects of derision and subjugation.

Actually, these people who are SO 'grossed out' are actually calling out for help -- they feel so low on the totem pole of humanity that they can do nothing but ridicule/humilate/desecrate every other 'category' of human (sexual / gender or erotic persuasive) they find lower than they consider themselves. I guess we should NOT be giving them some of their own medicine. ... but I just cannot resist.
Let me try to burn a new set of holes in their already sadly flat argument.


While the moderators are busy debating this among themselves, we have to keep in mind that these poor souls (those who feel so esteem-deprived that they have to take the immoral high-ground to feel better about themselves by beating up on their fellow minority members (other gay men).

Actually, you really should feel nothing but pity for these 'nay-sayers' and just ignore them -- NOT out of lack of pride / GAY PRIDE/ human dignity but for their own good.
Without this kind of 'moral' outlet to off-set their own insecurities about being gay, sucking man dick and getting punked up the ass and loving it, these are likely to become the same sort of psychos who will go ballistic (or postal) before they reach their 30th birthday. I guess it would be any harm to let them blow off steam here - neverhtheless, they are steam-boilers of rage about their own sexual insecurities. Someday some of them might just go over the top.

I know it is HARSH to use reverse criticism - but I want the real perverts to know where they stand in our eyes. (at least mine). Only a card-carrying Nazi Queer-basher would be so low-brained and cowardly to stand there in such a guise of moral superiority and take pot shot with his empty canon (limp dick) at people's willingness (and bravey) to admit a love that dare not speak it's name.

It'S just for such reasons that the rest of the human race has not progressed very much beyond what these negativists are saying... it makes the time between now and when gay men were killed for being simple gay seem very short indeed. Are they saying the advocate the burning other gay men at the stake for daring to admit a sexual fantasy (or reality) that's not like their own cookie-cutter sex preference.

I don't mind - even may even welcome -- an honest mutual self-analysis of one's connection (or not) to a certain form of sexual fantasy or even sexual eroticism or behavior. I don't think anyone will deny that a 'fetish' by its very definition is an erotic attraction that cannot be categorized as totally 'normal' - otherwise would we bother to call it or claim as a fetish?

Neither do I mind casting doubt on a so-called 'fetish' from anybody who's reallly trying to understand why a certain set of guys and a certian type (of limited) erotic proclivities are so compelling to those guys. That's a kind of healthy exploration of other 'sexualities' and way of thinking/ achieving sexual pleasure/satifaction that will do not harm.

What IS badly unforgivable- expecially for a site that represents such a large cross-section of the gay 'online' world - is the wholesale, blatant moral condemnation of one 'fetish'. Father-son incest.... it must be the WORLD's greatest sin...

What in the HELL are those guys sticking their noses deep into this forum iF what they find is SO morally aberrant / abhorant to them? (sp?)

Get a life and go back to rutting with your pigs, arsehorles? They sound like the uneducated red-neck freaks in Deliverance (book/movie) who trapped and butt-rape some city-slicker boys and then try to kill them for trying to get away and tell somebody.

Hey, I hate to be damn self-righteous bitch ... but shish...didn't we REACH the 21st century near seven frickin' years ago?

 

[Centexfarmer]

Let your "freak flag" fly Men!

This is supposed to be a mature adult forum, where we should have the freedom to discuss our favorite (sometimes secret) fetish.

Mature being, if you don't like the fetish then move on to Hot Topics or another more suitable forum.

With that in mind I would like to get back on topic.


My Uncle Gary was a total hunk. Blonde hair, blue eyes, who bulged in all the right places.

I often wondered why I was so attracted to guys with tight 501 button fly blue jeans.

I loved it when Uncle Gary use to come over with his wife and my cousins, because I use to spy on him from my bedroom window as he unloaded the car, and I unloaded myself. I use to fantasize about getting in his pants, and what that would be like. I couldn't have been more than 11 or 12.

Everyone use to toss their coats and jackets on my bed, and I remember looking for Uncle Gary's coat just so that I could smell it.

Ummmmmm.

Of course I never acted on any of it, but just remembering back has giving me back my morning wood.

Like JNewYork who started this thread, it really didn't have so much to do with the person, but how they looked, or smelled that somehow continues to have an impact on us as adults.

I guess that's why certain clothes, body parts, and scents can evoke/inspire a fetish!

Carry on, gentleman!

 

[JNewYork]

I'm not going to have sex with my dad. And it's not a regular thing for me to be beating my meat thinking of him. But sometimes if I'm in the mood I jerk off and fantasize that he's taking complete control and we go from a Field of Dreams moment of playing ball together to hugging and kissing and just exploring each other.

I'll accept if I'm "sick" for this. But it's not anything I wish to be cured of. I'm perfectly at ease. I did enjoy someone's comment above: "get a boyfriend, PRONTO!" I do have one.

I'm not going to blow my dad but I do love him very much. We're not that close anymore. And I know he must have a very big cock because the bulge in his pants was always impressive.

To this day I'm attracted to that t-shirt look. My dad's pecs would always be tight and pushing the tshirt out. I love his hands. I love his military haircut.

You know what I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY miss the most? Besides burying my face in his work pants? LOL I miss hugging him and feeling his stubble on my face.

My dad is such an awesome man. Sorry if it grosses anybody out that I would also be sexually turned on by him. But I'm well into adulthood. And I am what I am and that's all that I am, I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.

p.s. I also fantasize of playing ball with him, then we hit the showers and soap each other up. I'd love to soap down my dad all over. Then we'd hug each other in the shower, our hard cocks joining, we'd kiss under the shower head as the soap and maybe our swapped cum slides down our bodies to the drain.

 

[cellular]

4 little words for you...does your dad know?

 

[eric55]

Hmmmm... you know, that's an interesting question. I mean, looking at it from the other side, as the dad, what would your reaction be. You have a grown son, who looks good and you discover he has some desires for you. Would it be flattering, would it be exciting..... interesting question

 

[snapcat]

I'll be making an announcement soon, but basically here is the gist of it.

Negative comments about a particular fetish are no longer going to be tolerated in the Leather/Fetish forum.

If someone cannot post about their fetish in a fetish forum without being flamed then we have a problem.

So, to answer Hazemaster's earlier question, yes, we are going to do something about the negative comments. If you don't like a thread then go elsewhere and leave the people who are interested in it to post about it.

Just give me a little time to get everything in order ...

 

[JNewYork]

nah, don't censor the naysayers!

let freedom of speech ring.

it doesn't bother me at all. let freedom ring.

so what if people disagree. hearing how people REALLY feel is enlightening to us all.

it's okay by me for people to bash me for what I've written.

 

[Centexfarmer]

nah, don't censor the naysayers!

let freedom of speech ring.

it doesn't bother me at all. let freedom ring.

so what if people disagree. hearing how people REALLY feel is enlightening to us all.

it's okay by me for people to bash me for what I've written.

I personally don't see you as being "bashed."

What I see is a bunch of school girls who feel the need to comment on things that they really don't appear to have any idea about.

If they don't like what they read in this forum there are other places for them to comment, and to play.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

 

[bulge]

Sorry double post, strangely enough.

 

[bulge]

To add my own two cents (or scents), my Dad was a major jock--a champion handball player. In the winter he'd work out at the 23rd Street Y. Way before I reached puberty, Dad and I would shower together and my "Uncle Walter," Dad's handball oartner, taught me to swim in the Y pool (mandatory nudity for all)

In the summer, Dad & Walter played handball on courts in Rockaway. Often, they drove back home together without showering (Walter lived on the next block from us). I remember inhaling their fragrant, pungent man smells--mega doses of post workout sweat seasoned with funk from unwashed jocks and gym shorts.

As a small, skinny, hairless, pre-oubescent child back in the 1950's (way before the Sexual Revolution), I had no clue that one day I too would grow body hair and mature genitals. I felt these two men--with their hairy bodies, man sized genitals, and funky aroma--were totally different beings, Gods, compared to little me.

So yes, when I was alone in the apt, I rummaged through the laundry, found Dad's ripe, pungent workout clothes, burried my nose in them, and thought I was in macho heaven.

Years later, when I reached puberty (which was never discussed at home or school), I noticed the same aromas on my own body. To my amazement, I discovered that I too smelled like a man, that I was no longer so different from Dad and Uncle Walter. It was a major revelation.

I'm 62 years old now. But those smells of sweaty men and unwashed gym clothes bring back an instant memory and instant hardon.

My father was quite hot too. However I never fanzied him although I am sure I must have, as I fanzied men from the age of 6. I surely fanzied my father before and regret I repressed and forgot it.

The men I fanzied were also gods to me. I remember my father bought a second hand child car for me at the age of 6 from one of his colleagues. I still remember the guy (he delivered the car at our home) and I fanzied him for a very long time. I especially remember his lap when he was seated next my father. Totally impressive. I would have liked to diappear in his fly for ever. Don't tell that to a Freudian, because he has a very sophisticated explanation of it. I was totally in love with my teacher at 7 and so on. My eyes were exactly at their trousers fly hight. I would have liked remaining at that hight. The streets were goldmines for me.Moreover I sometimes gave a broad smile to guys in the street. Guys are really sweet with little boys of 6 smiling at them. When I am with guys now, I still feel I am that little boy, except I am exactly like them. I still cann't believe I did grow up as a man. And yes my dick is rather big and my balls are rather heavy. And for the rest all muscles and hair. Very masculine. I still cann't believe I did grow up exactly like them. Strangely enough I become more fascinated by guys every day, although I have had my disappointments as everybody, but each guy I meet, makes the next one still more fascinating.

I sometimes would like guys in the street would treat me exactly as they treated me when I was only 6. I wouldn't mind at all. They had that instant tenderness I have to wait 6 months for when I am with a guy at present.

 

[hairylatino]

kind of true i remember getting random smiles from Grown men when I was a little boy of about 6 or 7 and yeah even straight guys seem to get very tender around little boys. But I imagine its just how children make u feel they usually bring out an innate tenderness in most people and sometimes protectiveness since they are so little and fragile looking. Once u grown up well then u just don't inspire the same feelings.

 

[lacali]

I'm with you JNewYork.. Nothing wrong with it... When I visit my folks I look for the ripest pants and shirt and blow a load bigger than usual.Your story has me ready to blow a load right now thinking of you and your dad and me and my dad.. Power to you..

 

[room5]

Eric, thank you very much. I stopped contributing to these forums because of people like RacerX71. I guess they need to feel superior to something. The problem is that they hamper serious discussions. Right now I'm writing about Racer rather than the subject of this thread. Maybe this is their object - sad.