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My take on relationship advice

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Here is just what common sense (and personal experience) tells me about relationships and asking for relationship advice:

If you already have to ask another person, no matter what it is, about somebody else, then that innately proves that they are just not the right one for you. This could change, granted. But at the time, you are giving up your personal power on how to relate to that other person- you are not working things out yourself with that person, you are surrendering your personal power over to another by even asking for help in the first place. So you're not being a real man (or woman) about things.

They could give you wise, sage advice but they're ultimately NOT you, so the only thing they could really do to help you would for you to get you to realize what YOU really want to do here. If you don't know yet, then they don't know yet. They have to be a match to what you really wanted deep down otherwise things aren't going to go well.

I have a good gay male friend, let's just call him... Steve. ( not his real name) And I know that Steve really likes me as a friend, because I don't have to ask for anybody else's advice on how to handle Steve. I just accept him 100% selflessly as how he really is, and he does the same with me. I don't ask for anybody's opinion on how to handle him because I have such natural self-confidence on how to handle him myself that it's just completely unnecessary. I trust my own guidance system with him, and that's why I have such a good, eager feeling whenever we communicate with each other.

In fact, I only ask for advice on how to handle people that I don't like I found out. People that have been irritating me or boys that I thought I loved, but it was just a thing where they helped heal some psychological neurosis in my childhood, but it wasn't true love. They didn't ever accept me as how I really was, they tried to change me. =/ See in real love there is no condescending 'help' or playing fixer upper, or acting like you're in a need of a lot of help. There is only mutual support and complete acceptance.

We have a lot of chemistry together, and he makes me happy- even in just a friendship way, and he could possibly be a potential lover but who knows. I'm not concerning myself with that, cause he's such a great friend. Sometimes I forgot how good I have it, because he's such a great person.

So there's your answer. Anytime you have to ask a third party for help in a relationship with somebody, than it ceases to actually be a relationship. You have really just abandoning all your own resources for dealing with people and that's not good. Everybody is kinda forced to figure things out with themselves and 'see how it goes' if they're into somebody. We're not you. I don't know what you want. I just want you to want to know what you want. And get it.

Have a great day.
 
Asking others helps to get a different view on things.
If you are stuck and don't see the wood for the trees, a 2nd set of eyes can offer some insight and a perspective that you have not seen before.
The other opinion does not have to be a match, and you don't need to listen to it. But it helps you to either assure you in yours, or make you re-evaluate it. You don't surrender your power - that's just bullshit. The decision is still ultimately yours. Only a very weak individual would blindly act on advice - but they have a lot of other problems, too.
For some people it works to figure out everything for themselves, but hey .. I would bet you went to school, right? Why the fuck didn't you figure out all that stuff on your own? It seems you are to stupid to do it, since you had to rely on others to learn all that stuff.
See what I did there?

Anyway, probably I am just feeding the proverbial troll.
 
Many times people aren't really "asking" for advice per say. When people write posts and talk about issues in these forums it allows them to put things in perspective for themselves by materialising what they are feeling. Also some people need to vent, or just want to talk about things that maybe they have no one else to talk about them to. Anonyminity is also a great feature especially for people who might still be closeted.
 
Well aren't we all so lucky that you're so well adjusted.

Can't figure out why you're hanging around giving others advice then.
 
Well aren't we all so lucky that you're so well adjusted.

Can't figure out why you're hanging around giving others advice then.

Yeah. I seem to recall a very crazy thread by slnattack not too long ago... Something about queerness and inversion? And how all gay men are feminine? Great guy to get advice from. Thanks, Steve.
 
I don't recall ever having asked advice for any of the people I've had relationships with.

OMG they're all the one for me!! :luv2:
 
There's a couple of bad assumptions underlying the OP.

The first bad assumption is that the point of posting details about the problem is solely to seek advice or that everyone has someone that they can talk about gay/bi issues with.

Slickery is correct in that the point of people posting their problems in the forums is not only to ask for advice... sometimes the very process of putting the problem into writing changes the perspective of the situation for the person describing their problem.

And it helps them to tell someone- even if it's just to get the issue off their chest.


The second bad assumption is that there is a definitive answer to every problem.

There isn't.

Sometimes there aren't any great options and certainly not a perfect option. So, the point of seeking counsel and advice is to come up with the least imperfect solution to a bad situation.

It helps to get different perspectives, whether the advice is reassurance that you're doing the right thing or whether it be an unpleasant reality check.

Either way, you can only read the advice given and make up your own mind.
 
Well, I don't have to ask anybody about you. Does that mean you're the right one for me?

Lex
 
This is a no flame zone and I feel like I'm being flamed.

What I said was 100% true. It's not a matter of perspective or outlook. It's simply a fact.

If you ever have to ask for advice or help on anything, that simply shows your own insecurity.

I'm sorry that most of you lack the balls or moral fortitude to understand that. =/ I really am. I feel sorry for you that you can't see the simple truth.

I wish the best in life for you and hope that most of you get over your depression and whatever it is that is making you upset. =/
 
you just come on here with this holier than thou attitude like you have it all figured out in life and it's all bullshit.. sorry no one is buying it!
 
If you state your opinion as a fact - you are already wrong
 
What I said was 100% true. It's not a matter of perspective or outlook. It's simply a fact.

No, it's 100% your opinion. And opinion should not be mistaken for fact.


This is a no flame zone and I feel like I'm being flamed.

No, you're getting the attention that you so desperately are seeking.
 
This is a no flame zone and I feel like I'm being flamed.

Oh, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the heat from flames and the heat from sunlight.

I think you just have too many people here who don't buy what you're selling anymore. You've posted way too many threads and comments that just had to come back and bite you in the ass one day.

The sanctimonious and substantially incorrect hypothesis of your OP and follow-up response may help you justify to yourself why you would never ask for an objective opinion or for others' experiences, but it really isn't anything more than an emotionally and intellectually immature opinion on the complex issue of why people request assistance from others.

The greatest contribution that can be made when someone asks for advice is to have different perspectives offered. Through these, the person with a dilemma will hopefully gain better self-understanding and objectivity in determining their course of action.

I'm sorry that most of you lack the balls or moral fortitude to understand that. =/ I really am. I feel sorry for you that you can't see the simple truth.

But it is statements like these that expose the interior of your mind and soul and have me asking again,

'Why do you hang around in this forum giving people 'advice', when it is so apparent that you have nothing but naked contempt for the guys who post about their issues?'
 
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