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Benvolio said:
I cannot agree openterp. Affirmative action is inherently unfair.
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This is an opinion statement from which we've spent the better part of 4 pages asking you to either show in proof or in measurements of socioeconomic status or access to education or good employment has actually 'hurt' anyone. It seems more than reasonable that since you would be completely unable to show that white males have fallen behind historically disadvantaged demographics in any pertinent area a label of "unfair" is not accurate, and that, if anything, only unfair advantages have diminished.
 
Your opinion of what constitutes proof of fairness is unreasonable.b We have some 14 to 24 million unemployed or underemployed with the government bringing in millions more each year. Any exclusion of the best qualified on the basis of irrelevant, or worse, partisan, considerations, is unfair without more.
 
Benvolio said:
Your opinion of what constitutes proof of fairness is unreasonable.b We have some 14 to 24 million unemployed or underemployed with the government bringing in millions more each year. Any exclusion of the best qualified on the basis of irrelevant, or worse, partisan, considerations, is unfair without more.
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Your statement implies that a large number or all unemployed people in the U.S. had jobs which could be filled by a just-arrived immigrant who may or may not even speak English.

Another enormously dubious claim. Booting out immigrants is not going to bring back a subprime lending job or real estate investment banker job or middle management job that evaporated sometime over the last 10 years with the economic downturn.
 
Wait, I just found out that the GOVERNMENT is bringing in millions of immigrants. Was I just a sucker for buying my own ticket when there was a government-sent boat waiting to take me to the States? O.o


Benvolio, will you answer my question?
 
Rolyo85 said:
Wait, I just found out that the GOVERNMENT is bringing in millions of immigrants. Was I just a sucker for buying my own ticket when there was a government-sent boat waiting to take me to the States? O.o


Benvolio, will you answer my question?
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When you combine an insult with a question, you should not expect an answer.
 
Benvolio said:
When you combine an insult with a question, you should not expect an answer.
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Actually, I never expect answers from you and you don't have the capacity to surprise me. And for the record, there were no insults in the posts with my questions.

And if you're just ignoring posters based on their dislike of you, why bother posting topics where you know they're the only ones who will respond?
 
So Benvolio....you claim that Obama has allowed more immigrants in America than any other president, right?

Polifact says just the opposite: According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far. Technically, that's fewer than under George W. Bush, whose cumulative total was 2 million. But Bush’s number covers eight full years, which doesn’t allow an apples-to-apples comparison.

If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents.

We wondered whether there might have been a surge of undocumented immigrants that explained the increase, but there wasn’t. During the first two years of Obama’s tenure, the Pew Hispanic Center estimated the illegal immigrant population nationwide at 11.2 million, compared to an average during Bush’s eight-year tenure of 10.6 million. And illegal immigration actually peaked late in Bush’s second term, at which point the recession hit and the numbers declined under Obama. Such patterns do not explain the 57 percent bump in monthly deportations that we found under Obama

Here's the complete article, which replies to an ad that claimed that Obama deported more immigrants than any other president:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/10/american-principles-action/has-barack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/

Of course, i'm sure someone is going to move the goalposts and claim that he shipped them in all at once on Election Day and hid them in the White House or some other lame cop-out.
 
FuryOfFirestorm said:
OMG, I'M PSYCHIC! Someone moved the goalposts! And with a citation from a radical right-wing opinion site affiliated with The John Birch Society! You didn't need precognition to see that one coming! (!)
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No, but on a subliminal level you realized the the figures were phoney. How could it be the this president who has made a major part of his strategy the pandering to Hispanics, and rushing illegals to voter status, would actually deport more? The pretended deportation statistic is inconsistent with everything we know about your President. You are more intuitive than you realized.
 
Benvolio said:
No, but on a subliminal level you realized the the figures were phoney. How could it be the this president who has made a major part of his strategy the pandering to Hispanics, and rushing illegals to voter status, would actually deport more? The pretended deportation statistic is inconsistent with everything we know about your President. You are more intuitive than you realized.
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Did you not read the article I posted, or did you spend all this time working on that "clever" retort?

According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far.

There's a reason the site is called POLIFACT, not MADE-UP BULLSHIT REPUBLICANS PULLED OUT THEIR ASS
 
FuryOfFirestorm said:
Did you not read the article I posted, or did you spend all this time working on that "clever" retort?

According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far.

There's a reason the site is called POLIFACT, not MADE-UP BULLSHIT REPUBLICANS PULLED OUT THEIR ASS
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The truth has a liberal bias. :/ Sad. ;)
 
Benvolio said:
At issue is the definition of remove. If you stop someone at the border, BO counts him as "removed".
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Perhaps you'd like to show any proof* of this?

Because obviously, Obama is standing at the US/Mexican border, stopping every immigrant, marking them as "returned" on his checklist, then hands them a voter registration card, food stamps and keys to a Cadillac Escalade and says, "Vote Democrat!".

*proof: facts or data that backs up the veracity of an argument or statement.
 
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