"Native Americans (North America)" Who are they?

[Apollo]

Human nature... Sadly. Probably from times when tribes 1st began to form.

mmmm, idk. When Alexander the Great (my hero) was conquering the world, he did so to their face. He didn't pass along diseased blankets to people who didn't have the immune system to fight the diseases.

 

[Apollo]

Way before him...

I don't think the Egyptians were white. Nor did they commit genocide on their slaves. They were too busy having them build their pyramids.

And I think tribes used to handle things the old fashioned way of fighting stuff out face to face.

 

[Apollo]

Forget about race, Professor Gates! Genocide isnt race specific. Only that you want to assign a race to it.

Which is beneath you. You got mad at me in HT and brought it down here.

I thought this topic was about North America and who are the original North Americans.

I told you who I thought they were.

Why are we talking about genocide through the ages around the world?

No secret the white man killed off the majority of them through backhanded tricks. Then put them on reservations in some of the most uninhabitable places.

Can you tell me Rush Limbaugh?

 

[Apollo]

Usually when I hear of people talking about this stuff it's because they think dem damn 'Injuns shouldn't get their own casinos and tribal land that they don't pay taxes on and are in charge of. After all, everybody kills and enslaves people so why should they get "special treatment" now.

"Allowing" them their own tribal land, authority, and yes even casinos exempt from taxes is the LEAST we can do. If only the poor Native Alaskans could figure out a way to market a casino as the new Vegas they'd be much better off.

Here in Minnesota so many people get up in arms over the Native Americans being able to spear fish certain fish that white people can't. They act like they are being oppressed because of it. Unreal.

God forbid dem damn 'Injuns find oil or gold on their land. They'll be pushed off that land in no time flat.

 

[Apollo]

You asked: "But I gotta wonder where they (Rwanda) got the whole idea for mass genocide from?"

Ohhhh yeah, you brought up Rwanda. Didnt know that was in North America.

 

[Apollo]

Now you know "Why are we talking about genocide through the ages around the world?"



If I can help you out again let me know

Because you just asked the question again.

 

[Kurn]

The Atlantic Migration theory has attracted reliably scientific interest.
Some "Native Americans," however, have undoubtedly arrived here through Beringia, i.e., Alaska, etc.. We can be fairly certain that the Inuits and the Aleuts are descended from such a migration. The same for the Athapaskans? And the rest? Well, actually judging by things like blood types, all Native Americans seem to have their closest Old World relatives in Northeastern Asia.
There are more details to these speculations but, to answer the question that is implied, Native Americans may be said to be those Americans who arrived here by the direct use of their own muscle power, that is, by walking here or by paddling a canoe or raft along continental peripheries, whether from the East or from the West.

It's worth noting that these types of discussions are related to the oft-used insistences by many "conservatives" in favor of a "color-blind" society. You see, if we can all be color blind, thus giving, in their minds, the black people a break, there would be nothing to stop us from abolishing the Reservations and completely assimilating the Native Americans -- and buying up the rest of their lands by the white folk who are now just as equal as they are, since we're all color blind.
[I'm not color blind. I rejoice in people's differences. Whatever that brings with them is up to them, but they are certainly free in a land of freedom to do so, to be who they are.]

 

[daohua]

Re: "Native Americans (North America)" Who are the

I have read this before. It is believed that asians crossed the land-ice bridge at Bering Strait. The Eskimo's have some asian features. Then look at the ancestors of Inca and Aztec. They have some asian features, to me anyway.
I don't know where I've read this but it was probably some show on Discovery channel. I used to watch that quite regularly.

yes i am from the nahuaca pohuaquez nation in the yucatan. we do have asiantic features. in one of the Mayan tumbs there lies a coffin of a mayan king and one of the glyphs on the coffin is the image of an astronaut wearing a space helmet

 

[BINOWGAYLATER]

Hawaii is part of Polynesia (hundreds, probably more than a thousand islands in the south Pacific), so native Hawaiians are Polynesian. The Polynesian Islands were, I believe, populated by people migrating by sea out of Southeast Asia.

WHOA NELLIE !!
hold the phone!
Please get a new Geography book ---- HAWAII is part of the HAWAIIAN ARCHIPELAGO - also called the SANDWICH ISLANDS for the Earl of SANDWICH..

iT IS in the NORTH PACIFIC - NOT SOUTH -- It is 23 degrees NORTH of the EQUATOR..

AND IT WAS MOST LIKELY POPULATED BY VOYAGERS FROM BORA BORA and or TONGA..
and if you call a native Hawaiian Polynesian -you will most likely go home with a black eye.. they very much insist on a separate identify from the Figians and samoans, etc.

The Hawaiian Islands are an archipelago of 19 [1] islands and atolls, numerous smaller islets, and undersea seamounts in the North Pacific Ocean, extending some 1,500 miles (2,400 km) from the island of Hawaiʻi in the south to northernmost Kure Atoll. Excluding Midway, which is an unincorporated territory of the United States, the Hawaiian Islands form the U.S. state of Hawaiʻi. Once known as the Sandwich Islands, the archipelago takes its name from the largest island in the group.

This archipelago represents the exposed peaks of a great undersea mountain range known as the Hawaiian-Emperor seamount chain, formed by volcanic activity over a hotspot in the Earth's mantle. At about 1,860 miles (3,000 km) from the nearest continent, the Hawaiian Island archipelago is the most isolated grouping of islands on Earth.[2]

see also the reconstructed voyage of the Hokulea (Rediscovery) 1976..

 

[01solara]

Genetic studies ought to easily confirm or disprove these theories. The only one I know of actually has to do with lactose intolerance, which increases as you move East in the world. Native Americans are nearly 100% lactose intolerant. I think that's credible enough to say they are descendants of Asian migrants. Wouldn't be surprised if some genetic study came through and really nailed the migration question once and for all. Wouldn't be surprised if all three theories came about to be true, Bering Strait, from France, and by Polynesians.

I have gotten so sick from eating icecream that I literally fainted from the cramps and pain. So I am definitely on board with the lactose intolerance. Alcoholism runs rampant in my family. The two strongest influences in my heritage are American Indian and french. My great grandmother on my mom's side was half Cherokee and in her pictures she looks like the Indians from television. My dad's birth mother was listed as native American on her death certificate she was Choctaw and lived in Choctaw county Oklahoma. I am diabetic and that runs strongly on both sides of my family as well. I think both of these are prevalent because Europeans eat very differently than the way Indians did and our bodies did not build up the tolerance for the western diet. That's just my theory may be bull shit. The sickness I get if I don't watch my dairy input or eat too much refined food is very real though.

 

[NickCole]

WHOA NELLIE !!
hold the phone!
Please get a new Geography book ---- HAWAII is part of the HAWAIIAN ARCHIPELAGO - also called the SANDWICH ISLANDS for the Earl of SANDWICH..

iT IS in the NORTH PACIFIC - NOT SOUTH -- It is 23 degrees NORTH of the EQUATOR..

AND IT WAS MOST LIKELY POPULATED BY VOYAGERS FROM BORA BORA and or TONGA..
and if you call a native Hawaiian Polynesian -you will most likely go home with a black eye.. they very much insist on a separate identify from the Figians and samoans, etc.

The Hawaiian Islands are an archipelago of 19 [1] islands and atolls, numerous smaller islets, and undersea seamounts in the North Pacific Ocean, extending some 1,500 miles (2,400 km) from the island of Hawaiʻi in the south to northernmost Kure Atoll. Excluding Midway, which is an unincorporated territory of the United States, the Hawaiian Islands form the U.S. state of Hawaiʻi. Once known as the Sandwich Islands, the archipelago takes its name from the largest island in the group.

This archipelago represents the exposed peaks of a great undersea mountain range known as the Hawaiian-Emperor seamount chain, formed by volcanic activity over a hotspot in the Earth's mantle. At about 1,860 miles (3,000 km) from the nearest continent, the Hawaiian Island archipelago is the most isolated grouping of islands on Earth.[2]

see also the reconstructed voyage of the Hokulea (Rediscovery) 1976..

Thank you for your private message and all the CAPS.

And for this corresponding post as well. What you posted here that looks like a copy and paste from Wiki is true, though doesn't disagree with what I posted.

I referred specifically to Hawaii, not the Hawaiian Islands, because I knew something that could help answer that poster's question and nobody else had responded to it. Hawaii (and at least some of the Hawaiian Islands though maybe not all of them) is, indeed, part of Polynesia. Polynesia is believed to have been populated by migration from Southeast Asia.

As for a native Hawaiian giving me a black eye for saying they are Polynesian, I don't know anything about that and you might be right though I'd like to know why. They are Polynesian, that's just the word given to the islands in that section of ocean. Is "Polynesian" considered an insult? If it is, do you know why?