NBC gives Isaiah a "second chance"...

[theFallenGod]

once again ...ignorant racist pisces ken makes another ignorant racist thread...

 

[falconfan]

^ ummm, that was tongue in cheek from Lex (I think)

ironically, I can see it happening fairly easily

lol that's what I thought at first and then the more I read it the more probably it sounded so I was unsure.

 

[unclaimedblessing]

I wonder if everyone would have the same reactions if NBC had hired Michael Richards or Don Imus?.
One bigotted asshole is just as bad as anyother.

 

[pisces_ken02]

I wonder if everyone would have the same reactions if NBC had hired Michael Richards or Don Imus?.
One bigotted asshole is just as bad as anyother.

Totally two different situations. Both of these acts were caught on CAMERA/or RADIO!

Don't get this wrong.. I am not DEFENDING ISAIAH(for one he is ugly as hell)! But I just don't want someone fired because of their race. If Isaiah did any of this.. his ass deserved to be fired. All I hear from everyone is "hearsay".. show me the damn proof. I also don't want his "race" to be the deciding factor. If race is entered into the equation, that means someone who is white would not have had the same type punishment.

Also Hollywood does provide a limited supply of black actors, and it is very hard for them to find work. So if one is going to be fired or dismiss I want to make sure it was for all the right reasons.

 

[luminum]

Exactly. They all suck equally no matter what race they are.

In fact, I probably wouldn't have had much disdain for Washington if he hadn't made the entire stink about it after. Sometimes you say things and you let slip. Fine, happens to even the nicest people. But then he lied about it and later refused to really own up to it after he was fired blaming everyone else. Not to mention his history of being an asshole on the set coming to light.

Pisces, you have three co-actors on the set who can confirm he said it, not to mention the fact that he admitted to doing it...if self incrimination and the aligned testimonies of three other cast mates doesn't do it, then I don't know what else will. Unless of course three white actors somehow convinced a strong black man to also lie against himself.

 

[falconfan]

Totally two different situations. Both of these acts were caught on CAMERA/or RADIO!

Don't get this wrong.. I am not DEFENDING ISAIAH(for one he is ugly as hell)! But I just don't want someone fired because of their race. If Isaiah did any of this.. his ass deserved to be fired. All I hear from everyone is "hearsay".. show me the damn proof. I also don't want his "race" to be the deciding factor. If race is entered into the equation, that means someone who is white would not have had the same type punishment.

Also Hollywood does provide a limited supply of black actors, and it is very hard for them to find work. So if one is going to be fired or dismiss I want to make sure it was for all the right reasons.

Hearsay!!! Oh for God's sake why is the massive coverage of the incident "hearsay" but Isaiah's claims of racism (or did he even claim racism or is that just you inferring because he happens to be black?) are not hearsay?!?! wtf kinda logic is that? Dude he's an ass. You can see that in any interview he gives. Are you just physically incapable of understanding race was not the factor. I mean look at the God damn Emmys!! Obviously Issah refused to get past the incident then and I'm sure he refused to move on since judging by his attitude. The man told Dempsey that he couldn't act, physically assualted him, used a hateful slur, apparently couldn't let things go, proclaimed himself the 'leader' of the cast on Larry King which says to me him and his inflated ego mistreated or at least tried to order around the cast. That type of personality obviously causes tensions on a set and it's best to just cut him loose.

And before you claim maybe Issiah is the one telling the truth you watch the tape at the Emmy's and watch everyone's face when he says that and try to tell me they weren't all shocked and pissed. He's a liar and a bad one at that. I literally laughed when he tried to summon crocodile tears mentioning Sandra Oh's e-mail.

And if you really were concerned about oppurtunities for blacks on prime-time TV you should be pissed that a self-destructive back-sliding ass like Washington is taking a spot from some black actor that could use that role to launch a career.

 

[orton86]

Is Pisces, Al Sharpton? Since he has his picture in his avatar and he ALWAYS brings up race in each thread he visits. It just makes me wonder... I hate when people who say that they are not racist, but they always have to bring the race card in everything! Sorry, but this makes me angry!

 

[Soilwork]

that's too bad.

I was kinda looking forward to that show.

The original was a favorite of mine, and Jamie Sommers was a gay icon. Hiring a notoriously homophobic actor (who's also a liar, a whiner and a brat) isn't really what I'd call a "clever move."

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

Yeah; I had such high hopes for that show...But to find that that Washington is part of the cast...Wonder how many viewers that they lost...

As for the limited pool of black action heroes: It just seems that they can't stay on the air (such as Blade) unless they aren't the only one on the screen (Christopher Judge as Teal'c). They seem to worry about being black (or being a halfbreed or some other racial issue) than they do about the villain. And if they don't deal with black issues (like Taye Digg's Kevin Hill) then they get slammed by the black community (bad example, considering it did win an Image Award (which has recently lost it shine), but the general example stands).

Read: Color of skin doesn't matter; it's the baggage that slows the show down...

RG

 

[bodmodkub]

I'm betting they are doing it as a stunt, since it's a sci-fi show on a regular network. I'm not thinking the show will last very long to begin with. I love Battlestar Galactica (Eick's other current show), and I love Kattee Sackhoff (Battlestar actress thats going to be in the Bionic woman as the original bionic woman), but the show sounds like a dud.

We shall see.

Hopefully them hiring Isaiah won't affect the ratings in a poor way. Maybe this time he'll keep his biggotted, worthless mouth shut. If this show doesn't make it, his carreer will be pretty much over, unless he wants to be a sci-fi actor.

 

[josher]

T. R. Knight was nominated for an Emmy today.

 

[dr_beat]

Jamie Sommers was a gay icon.

Really? Did I miss something? Or maybe I just didn't interpret those fembot episodes in the right way...

 

[evandrosoldati]

Totally two different situations. Both of these acts were caught on CAMERA/or RADIO!

Don't get this wrong.. I am not DEFENDING ISAIAH(for one he is ugly as hell)! But I just don't want someone fired because of their race. If Isaiah did any of this.. his ass deserved to be fired. All I hear from everyone is "hearsay".. show me the damn proof. I also don't want his "race" to be the deciding factor. If race is entered into the equation, that means someone who is white would not have had the same type punishment.

Also Hollywood does provide a limited supply of black actors, and it is very hard for them to find work. So if one is going to be fired or dismiss I want to make sure it was for all the right reasons.

heres the proof: http://www.afterelton.com/people/2007/1/isaiahwashingtonfired

just imagine if the one he's calling fag is you how'd you feel, besides since larry king, it just made him seem so defensive, he's just trying to cover up his ass and lie about all the incident.

He said that the "F-word" was not meant as an anti-gay slur, but implied "somebody who is being weak."

honestly we all know what the f-word means.

 

[DoctorGiggles25]

His character was killed off anyway... LoL.

If he'd just shut the fuck up and act, he skills would over shadow his personal remarks and he'll be able to salvage his career.

Only if... LoL.

 

[doctorsun]

I just wonder what the OP would think if someone gave Michael Richards a second chance.

 

[Ares]

If Washington was white, I'd dislike him all the same. His arrogance is what originally turned me off, the slur was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Not a fan of Davis either though. I can't say why Al Sharpton didn't go after him. Probably not a big enough case to provide him with enough self-publicity, but who knows.

 

[davy]

... but as I recall people were disgusted on this message board.

nevertheless, he stayed on the show and his offense was recorded.

washington's gone from the show, and his offense was only rumor.

god help him if it were actually recorded.

 

[Ares]

I wonder if Davis's other cast members hadn't forgiven him, if he would have been allowed to stay. If they put up enough protest, he probably would have been booted.

From what was reported, Washington had many issues with different cast members. By the end, he had few people on his side. Maybe if he hadn't burned so many bridges previously, more of the cast would have stood up for him and he would still have his job. The Grey's cast had become so dysfunctional with him on set that something needed to be done.

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

Like Washington, Davis was given the chance to apologize, and so far hasn't done like Washington and denied that it happened. That alone makes the two situations vastly different; I'm not saying that it shouldn't have been said, but that it was dealt with to the satisfaction of all involved. [It may bot have been dealt with to the satisfaction of the audience and others, but it was dealt with.] Of course, I do it find it interesting that the Rev. Al didn't voice an opinion...

Also, with Washington, what exacerbated the situation was that he was given an award where he was supposed to one of the shining lights of the community; he should have been disqualified from it rather than winning it. Also, he claimed racism for getting fired.

People wanted to lynch Washington because of his basic stupidity and that he apparently liked to burn bridges, and not so much Davis because it was apparently a lapse in judgment (Washington had a reputation for that kind of behavior, whereas Davis didn't). Each case was judged on its own merits, rather than as related to the other (especially as they, well, weren't). Both were given a second chance, and Washington decided to burn all the way through his fourth one...

RG

 

[Homoaffectional]

He couldn't have. His hurling of a racial slur was shown on TV unedited. It wasn't just backstage word that got out. The TV viewers saw it.

Whereas the exact opposite was true for Washington. It was still a case of he said-he said. He was not in the slightest bit punished for whatever he might have said the first time. He could easily have ridden out the wave of publicity with no cost to his career... it was he who repeated the word and gave his critics (many of which were actually justified) another opportunity to make him look foolish.

Some people on this and other threads keep repeating this claim that people wanted to go after Washington and gave Davis a pass... forget about Washington's alleged homophobia, arrogance and even "ugliness" (WTF? What does that have to do with anything? So if Don Imus was attractive it would have made what he said OK?)... it was Washington's own stupidity that cost him his job. All he needed to do was not say anything at the Golden Globes (or at least if he had to, not actually give the cameras an opportunity to tape him actually using the full "f" word, an opportunity Davis never had because the cameras were rolling during his confrontation with Tyree) and he would still have his role as Dr. Burke on Grey's Anatomy today.

As for Davis, it should be noted that Tyree himself went out of his way to stand up for him in an episode that aired shortly after the one where he dropped the n-bomb. Clearly Tyree himself forgave him, so not sure why Davis' critics are trying to say justice wasn't done.

BTW, I personally thought Washington was just as attractive (on the outside) as Davis was, at least until his personality totally ruined it for me, for those people who say Davis' looks contributed to why he was given a pass.