NC Pastor Take Homophobia to the Extreme, Says Gay People Should Be "Detained in Camps" Until They Die

[hotatlboi]

The absolute BEST part of that video?

When he put his hand over his mouth to "shout" you could hear the echo in the big ass empty church.

I don't think you can really tell how full the church is from this perspective. And I don't think the number of people would change the echo characteristics of the building.

All of the empty choir seats behind him.

It's pretty standard in a lot of churches for the choir to be dismissed and join the congregation before the sermon begins.

The dwindling church congregation.

Church attendance is dwindling some in the aggregate, but again I don't really think there is any info here to judge whether that is happening to this church.

 

[hotatlboi]

Hopefully this church will suffer after their pastor's remarks get more attention though. That would be the best thing to come out of this, as it would show other pastors that hate will not advance their message anywhere.

 

[Centexfarmer]

I don't think you can really tell how full the church is from this perspective. And I don't think the number of people would change the echo characteristics of the building.


It's pretty standard in a lot of churches for the choir to be dismissed and join the congregation before the sermon begins.


Church attendance is dwindling some in the aggregate, but again I don't really think there is any info here to judge whether that is happening to this church.

I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Personal Savior, and was Baptized at a First United Pentecostal Church.

I took Vocational Drafting when I was in High School, and worked as a Draftsman at an Engineering Firm after I graduated.

I studied acoustics, seating per square foot, and the BTU requirements for the Central HVAC units for a structure of this size, and I'm telling you that there were less than 100 people in a "worship space" that probably had the seating capacity for more than 1,000.

Most choirs at best represent no more than 10% of their Congregation, and based upon the number of choir chairs visible in that video there weren't enough people present to even fill those seats.

That church, its congregation, and it's pastor are wasting some prime tax generating real estate.

My Gawd!

Now y'all are defending this guy?

 

[Telstra]

I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Personal Savior, and was Baptized at a First United Pentecostal Church.

I took Vocational Drafting when I was in High School, and worked as a Draftsman at an Engineering Firm after I graduated.

I studied acoustics, seating per square foot, and the BTU requirements for the Central HVAC units for a structure of this size, and I'm telling you that there were less than 100 people in a "worship space" that probably had the seating capacity for more than 1,000.

Most choirs at best represent no more than 10% of their Congregation, and based upon the number of choir chairs visible in that video there weren't enough people present to even fill those seats.

That church, its congregation, and it's pastor are wasting some prime tax generating real estate.

My Gawd!

Now y'all are defending this guy?

Studied acoustics? LOL for that.
I attended lots of churches with full of people but still hear echoes.
My point is, study acoustics won't count in terms of hearing in the buildings your self.

 

[hotatlboi]

Now y'all are defending this guy?

Who is defending him?

 

[Centexfarmer]

Who is defending him?

You are.

The Guy is a Monster without a doubt, but I point it out that he's part of a dying cause, I illustrated why (based upon my own personal experience), and I"m just wrong, wrong, wrong! 'there were thousands in attendance sopping up every word of his sermon like a biscuit with gravy!'


Some of y'all are defending this guy because some of y'all want him to be a representative of those who divide us from our families, our faiths, our religion, and society at large.

I was just pointing out that this "pastor" was doing more than rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship.

 

[hotatlboi]

You are.

Bullshit.

I haven't said anything defending the ridiculous and hateful words he uttered.

All I said was basically that I don't find it particularly noble to be wishing death on him.

 

[Knucklehead]

I wonder how long it will before this pastor is popped in a park restroom sting with a strangers dick in his mouth? Seen this movie before.The louder they protest ''agin'' (or however the hell you spell that) the gays, the more they like the dick.

 

[Rolyo85]

Nobility is a luxury of those with power. There is nothing noble in pretending you don't wish harm to a vermin like this creature, and honestly, in my twisted mind I can both wish him erased out of existence, AND retain vast quantities of unrestrained nobility ^_^

And why the LOL for acoustics? I've also studied that (in the music school). Not that I remember anything, mind you...

 

[hotatlboi]

There is nothing noble in pretending you don't wish harm to a vermin like this creature

You say he's a vermin because he wishes death on you. Yet you wish death on him and claim not to be. Sorry, I just don't see much of a difference. If wishing death on someone is an act that qualifies you for vermin status, then you've just admitted yourself. And as i mentioned, you're talking about killing someone for an opinion that CAN change, and we've seen that change in millions of people over just the last few years.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Bullshit.

I haven't said anything defending the ridiculous and hateful words he uttered.

All I said was basically that I don't find it particularly noble to be wishing death on him.

We're all going to die. The difference is between those of us who die peacefully in our sleep, and those who go out kicking and screaming because they know that they're going straight to hell.

I even quoted what you said.

Except what I said was, that rather than wish death on the man outright, a little "karmic justice."

Let him live long enough to see that his hate and bile only contributed to the demise of his own "church," and that his God (Same as mine) will judge him in the same manner that he judged others in the after life.

 

[hotatlboi]

Let him live long enough to see that his hate and bile only contributed to the demise of his own "church,".

Then we really have no disagreement, as I also wished for that.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Then we really have no disagreement, as I also wished for that.

Well you don't have to "wish" for that.

Even if you and I don't share the same faith, I think that it's fair to say that it's already happened/happening.

That was my point.

 

[Rolyo85]

You say he's a vermin because he wishes death on you. Yet you wish death on him and claim not to be. Sorry, I just don't see much of a difference. If wishing death on someone is an act that qualifies you for vermin status, then you've just admitted yourself. And as i mentioned, you're talking about killing someone for an opinion that CAN change, and we've seen that change in millions of people over just the last few years.

I already responded to that in a previous post.

 

[CowboyBob]

When will he be caught hiring someone from rentboy.com?

This asshole said back in the 1970's faggots deserve to be hanging from a big white oak tree. Definitely not Christian.

 

[Ninja108]

People that actually know a gay person realize we aren't the threat to all they hold dear we're purported to be. Yes, it's harder. But it's a more rewarding path in the long run. Keep at it!

SOme people realize that. Others never do. I have several friends who haven't talked to their families in anywhere from five years to 30 years.

 

[Kulindahr]

So this is it? This is what this guy wants in a democratic country like this one?

That assumes he wants a democratic country. He'd probably say "yes", while meaning that only people who agree with his butchering of the Bible would get to vote.

You don't see anything ironic about saying someone is a hate monger for wishing death on people, yet you in your own post do the same thing? By the transitive property, wouldn't that make you a hate monger?

One is engaging in plans for others to die, the other is merely expressing a wish.

In my moral system it's enough that I wouldn't kill him myself for me to feel good enough about myself, even though I wish him dead. I believe in justice, but I also believe in self-preservation. I see an obvious difference between wanting people dead because they are different from you, and wishing one hateful person - who does damage to me and mine through his hate-filled speech - dead. Notice the different words btw. If you think that makes me as bad as him, fine, I can live with your disappointment. I am not Christian and I don't believe in absolutes.

Also, I know (read: "strongly believe") that he would totally act on his wants if given the power to do so. I wouldn't. Too much empathy, even for monsters (ask Giancarlo )...

Yep. If he even hesitated, one of his kind would step forward and start it off.

 

[Kulindahr]

You know what bothered me MOST about the video for some odd reason -- other than the "amens" from the congregation???

It was that AFTER he described in somewhat EXPLICIT detail how he would execute his FLAWED and HORRIFIC genocide plan...

He pauses -- then says "I don't even know if this can be said behind the pulpit -- but can you imagine kissing a man???"

My head about exploded...

He can preach about wiping MASSIVE AMOUNTS of FELLOW human beings -- but wonders whether he can talk about a physical demonstration of LOVE between two human beings???

No kidding.

"Love is of God", the Apostle wrote.

I love that he feels he's being magnanimous by offering to "feed" us behind our electrified fence, but I have to disagree with his (well thought out) conclusion that our kind would die out in "a few years" because we don't reproduce. The beauty of that is we don't "have" to reproduce because those sweet straight people keep making more of us!

Hallelujah!

I am always amazed by American "free speech" law.
Over here he would be charged with hate crime and go to jail !!!


And what did he said? "the bible again it, god's again it, i'm again it .... "

That's "Agin", as in "against".

 

[Kulindahr]

Studied acoustics? LOL for that.
I attended lots of churches with full of people but still hear echoes.
My point is, study acoustics won't count in terms of hearing in the buildings your self.

I've been in so many churches I wouldn't want to guess -- and you're correct, for one big reason: the acoustics are totally dependent on the architecture of the place. There's an old German Lutheran one in Illinois I was at, all vaulted with overdone "dormers" (there's probably a liturgical name for them) that made the place echo back at the pulpit even when the place was packed -- when empty, it was a hollow, haunting double echo. OTOH, there was a quaint little Congregational place in Indiana that wouldn't give an echo when empty -- I wouldn't be surprised if the preacher could pound on the pulpit with a hammer and not get an echo.

 

[Kulindahr]

SOme people realize that. Others never do. I have several friends who haven't talked to their families in anywhere from five years to 30 years.

My older brother was here today. He didn't even acknowledge my existence.

Though he said hi to Bammer.