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I'm feeling REALLY gay tonight, so I decided to change my avatar.

It's Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest, a truly great gay camp icon, and it's her in the infamous boardroom scene.

Chairman of the Board (Pepsi~Cola)
"Ms. Crawford, surely you don't want to make threats you don't mean."

Ms. Crawford
"Don't FUCK with me, Fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo! You don't know what hard feelings ARE until I come out PUBLICALLY against your product. Then we'll see how much you sell. It's a sword, that cuts both ways."

..|
 
DOH! I forgot the rest of her speech in there! LOL

"You forget the press I delivered Pepsi was MY POWER!"

I think that was all of it...it's late, I'm tipsy & can't find my DVD...:lol:
 
During the summer of 1982, I think I watched that movie on HBO pretty much every day. I was 8. I turned out gay.

Chicken or the egg?
 
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Why must this class B actor (small word deliberately) be viewed as a homosexual icon? If this is the best we can do in selecting our icons, surely we are capable of better ones then this one.

As for Mommie Dearest - the film almost sank Faye Dunaway's career as it should have sunk everyone who was connected with the film.

Oh and by the way, why this icon was lighting up the screens of America, why didn't the powers that be, the Hollywood mogels - known as the heads of the studios - and other major actors of the times, ever think of reporting her to authorities for abusing her "children.? She was emotionally unstable and had an alcoholic illness that should have required her children being removed from that abusive home environment.

But everyone kept quiet and she just went about her way giving the same performance film after film afte film. An ACTOR she never was. Hell, even Ann Blyth out performed her in Midlred Pierce and she was no star icon that I know of.

Continuing her icon status is just further stereotyping homosexuals in ways they need to drop. The times have marched on - and she is something and someone who could and should be left behind.

Now if you want to talk about an ACTOR, then Bette Davis is a different story. Sorry you never were never able to see her perform on stage. Two truly supeb performances, and not just resting upon her name. But ACTING.

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

eM:( just the local village idiot letting you know how things appear from tinsel town.
 
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Why must this class B actor (small word deliberately) be viewed as a homosexual icon? If this is the best we can do in selecting our icons, surely we are capable of better ones then this one.

As for Mommie Dearest - the film almost sank Faye Dunaway's career as it should have sunk everyone who was connected with the film.

Oh and by the way, why this icon was lighting up the screens of America, why didn't the powers that be, the Hollywood mogels - known as the heads of the studios - and other major actors of the times, ever think of reporting her to authorities for abusing her "children.? She was emotionally unstable and had an alcoholic illness that should have required her children being removed from that abusive home environment.

But everyone kept quiet and she just went about her way giving the same performance film after film afte film. An ACTOR she never was. Hell, even Ann Blyth out performed her in Midlred Pierce and she was no star icon that I know of.

Continuing her icon status is just further stereotyping homosexuals in ways they need to drop. The times have marched on - and she is something and someone who could and should be left behind.

Now if you want to talk about an ACTOR, then Bette Davis is a different story. Sorry you never were never able to see her perform on stage. Two truly supeb performances, and not just resting upon her name. But ACTING.

Unfortunately being a gay icon cuts both ways. We love to see them triumph, but we get just as much of a thrill out of their downfall. Think of Judy Garland. Maybe Whitney Houston would be the equivalent today.

Being female and talented is not enough. You have to have that extra dimension that makes the audience wait for the moment when you go too far over the top and start your downhill slide.

Joan Crawford is a quintessential gay icon, and it had nothing to do with her parental misdeeds (which didn't become public knowledge until after her death, and anyway a lot of people think Christina exaggerated everything to sell more books).

True, her acting would never get her an A+ at the Actor's Studio, but she had that larger than life thing that keeps us all going to the movies. When she was onscreen, you didn't look at anybody else (unless Bette Davis was on at the same time).

And she was one of Hollywood's great survivors -- she started in the silent era and was still making films in the 70's. Her later films (after WWII) practically define the term "camp classic." I couldn't live without Flamingo Road, Female on the Beach, or Queen Bee. Don't the titles alone make you want to run out and watch them?

She did give at least one first-rate performance, by the way. Can you guess which movie I'm thinking of?
 
Nice avatar...

"Tear down that BITCH of a bearing wall and put a window where it ought to be!!!"

I liked the ass better though... ;)
 
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