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Ok. basically I only joined here for some advice and questions that needed answering. I feel that if I don't get my questions answered or get some advice, that I won't know what to do with my life. If you have read my introduction you will know what I'm dealing with.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249982

Basically I'm seeking advice on:

- Coming Out; when is a good time/how do i get myself read/who should i talk to first/what are good or bad consequences you have experienced?

- Friendship; I have a crush on one of my best friends and don't know what to do. I really want to take it further, although I consider myself a bit too young. (see introduction)

- Controlling myself: everytime I see a hot guy, I flip. How do I keep myself from freaking out? Is it hormones?

Thanks a lot in advanced. I need a lot of :help: and this could change the way I liev my life
 
Coming out: only do it WHEN you are ready. Not on anyone elses terms. you controll that. Only when you decide that you are fine with who you are.

Friend: If he is str8- unless he is gay you may want to wait until you are more confident in your self, so as to not hurt anyone incl----> you.

if he is gay then just ask him.

controlling: as long as you make make a fool of your self and make a scene, nothing wrong with seeing a hot guy. Thats part of the fun..
 
- Coming Out :
When : Doesn't really matter. In cases where you are not comfortable with being gay or you believe that the people around you wouldn't be comfortable with it, most people will wait until they hit the wall, so to speak. Basically when they can no longer stand the lie. Waiting until this point generally isn't the best idea due to unintended outtings that are likely to happen if you slip. If you are comfortable with the fact that you are gay, that you won't be changing that anytime soon, and if you can answer this hypothetical question "If there was a pill to take to not be gay, knowing everything you do now would you take it?" And the answer is an honest and heartfelt no. Then whenever you decided who you want to tell first comes around and you feel the time is right, would be the right time to come out.
Who : Generally for the first outing we chose someone close to us that we feel will be sympathetic. Whether it's your best gal pal, or a family member, or the guy you play soccer with every other week that seems really cool. Is up to you. First person I came out to was my best girl friend at the time, then my lesbian science teacher, then my parents, then everyone else.
Why : This bit is the good and bad of my coming out from the point of me being fully out not when I first started coming out :D. The reason I felt the need to come out was that I had hit the wall, ](*,) remembering all the lies I was telling everyone was weighing heavy on me, and I ended up having a nervous break down. After a few days of that I snapped to, and made the decision to come out. Some good things that came about, I found out who were my real friends, a couple people that I thought I was really close to disappeared, and a few people that I hardly remembered their names stepped up. So yay for that. Not only that but the pressure I had been putting on myself for years was off and I could actually think about stuff other than what would happen if people found out etc.
Some bad things was that my father didn't talk to me for a couple years other than occasional grunts and some screaming fits. Though I'm not really sure if that should go in the good or bad column my dad is an oddball :P Oh and I got my first 'boyfriend' that's definitely in the bad column because he used being my first relationship to devastate and humiliate me.

Friendship : As a generally rule of thumb I would strongly advise against seeking anything further with your friend. It's conceivable that your crush on your friend is due to the fact that you are in the closet and feeling alone, and the kindness your friend is showing you, you are misinterpreting as signs of a possible greater affection. If that dream/fantasy is shattered you could a) out yourself before you're ready b) Lose your friend forever c) Cause some severe depression in yourself and possible to him.
After reading your intro, I will reinforce my advise, DO NOT! attempt to take things further with your friend until you are fully out of the closet. After which the question of his sexuality may come up. If you want him, don't force the issue. If he is straight then you will have to settle for the fantasies. You are 19 in Seattle, go to where the gay boys hang. Find you a purty one and get to know one another. See if these slightly 'obsessive' feelings for your friend go away. Or at least fade to something less.

Control : Partially your lack of control is due to hormones. But more likely it's due to your lack of experience around men in the capacity of lover. Once you get a few relationships under your belt and few rolls in the hay hot guys could lick you up and down and nothing will happen to ya :p jk. You're 19 you're supposed to flip out over guys that are hot. As long as your tongue and dick stay where they're supposed to you should be fine. If you're ripping your clothes off and chasing after them, you might wish to seek psychological help fore you get arrested for public indecency or attempted rape :D Being around gay guys in a more normalized setting, such as a gay bar etc will help you to control your reactions. Atm I'm guessing you've been watching alot of gay porn, and fantasizing about your team mates and best friend. So you've basically programmed your body to get horny when you see a dude that arouses your interest. Next time you see a hot guy poke your thigh with a pin, your unconscious reactions to a hot dude in your presence will change rather quickly, or your leg will be a pin cushion :D Could be a interesting conversation piece at least :D If you wish to hide an erection while naked, best way is to picture something totally disgusting. Try thinking of a dead kitten, think about the smell of it's dead body, hearing the flies buzzing around, seeing the fluids leaking out of it's wounds. K i'ma stop making myself sick. Something like that. If you involve yourself in a sickening fantasy like that it's kinda hard to get an erection. And even if you do don't be ashamed, turn it into a joke, if you're not out be like dude (enter girl friends name here) just won't put out any tips? When you try to hide something people want to look more.

As for your body hair issues I share a similar gene and also don't like it. Best thing you can do is find someone who loves your hairyness :D There are lots of people out there. And if you just absolutely HATE!!!!!!!!!!! being hairy, then you can either take up the task of spending a couple hours in the shower every morning and making sure you're totally smooth. Or save up your money for the laser hair removal surgery.

As a final note don't hate on flamers. Because they just turn around and hate on the str8 acting gays. We act the way we act don't judge. It doesn't matter if John Smith sees a flamer and automatically assumes that you being gay are also a flamer. John Smith is to blame for that not the flamer. Him as his stupid narrow mind. So next time you see a flamer don't let your first thought be 'God they're giving us all a bad name' let it be 'You know someone is going to see him and think I'm like that, so you know what maybe I should come out of the closet and show them that gay people come in all shapes sizes and colors, and it doesn't matter how we act cuz we're all human beings.'
 
- Coming Out; when is a good time/how do i get myself read/who should i talk to first/what are good or bad consequences you have experienced?

It's tough to give a blanket answer for this. It depends completely and solely on your situation. If you're dependent on some extremely homophobic parents for your livelyhood, the answer is "not yet". If you're on your own and surrounded by accepting folks, the answer is "any time you want".

How do you do it? You talk to the people you feel the closest to. The people about whom you think "I can talk to him/her about ANYTHING". Tell them first, and then move on. It gets easier, and as you tell more people, you build up a support group. :)

- Friendship; I have a crush on one of my best friends and don't know what to do. I really want to take it further, although I consider myself a bit too young. (see introduction)

Do you know this guy's gay? Not "think he might be", not "he says he isn't but I know better.". Unless you know he's gay, or he's said he's interested in fooling around with a guy, don't try anything. You'll be putting your friendship in major jeopardy.

If you're not sure about his sexuality, do the obvious thing - come out to him first. Don't hit on him just yet - just tell him you're gay. If he's gay, and he's interested, that lets him know that you're at least possibly open to the idea. It'll be his cue to make the next move.

- Controlling myself: everytime I see a hot guy, I flip. How do I keep myself from freaking out? Is it hormones?

Not sure, because honestly, I never have this problem. :) I just look at everybody as human. They're a bunch of insecurities and problems wrapped up in human skin. And yeah, sometimes that skin is pretty damned attractive. But there's still insecurities and problems in there. Because of that, I don't think anyone is out of my league. They may not be interested in me, but they're still not out of my league. :)

Lex
 
Thanks guys. So far I know that I'm definately not in a position to come out yet. I'm just not convinced-- well haven't convinced myself that it is best for me yet. As for my friend, it seems as though I know what I want to do, but I know what I have to do. To keep a little distance from him and me to cool things down, I turned down a evening over at his house. Hopefully if I ever pull myself together and come out, i'll tell him, apologize for lying to him, and see what he says. I just don't know how soon that will be though. For now, keep the advice coming.
 
Nothing new to offer unless you have more specific questions, or an update on your situation. :)

Lex
 
- Coming Out; when is a good time/how do i get myself read/who should i talk to first/what are good or bad consequences you have experienced?

- Friendship; I have a crush on one of my best friends and don't know what to do. I really want to take it further, although I consider myself a bit too young. (see introduction)

- Controlling myself: everytime I see a hot guy, I flip. How do I keep myself from freaking out? Is it hormones?

The best time to come out is when you feel comfortable dealing with the possible consequences, such as losing friends or even angering family. I think a great person to start with is a sibling or parent because, frankly, family often has a clue to begin with. You know right now how your mother would respond. The second best person is a good friend. Once you have at least one person in your corner and you have experienced coming out to one person, it becomes far easier. Only you can speculate what the outcome will be.

You mention you are attracted to a friend and want to go further, but you don't say whether he is gay. It would be a terrible mistake to come on to a friend who is not gay because that is the easiest way to lose a friend. That is a common mistake gay men make, confusing friendship for something more. There is a very true saying: Don't shit where you eat. That means don't hit on your friends and don't have sex with your roommates.

Regarding controlling yourself. The operative word is control. You apparently have some freaky interests that you should not let get out of control. By out of control I mean doing something at school or taking a fellow student's clothing. Bad idea. I think its wise to not rush into sex and certainly to never do anything unsafe. Just because a guy is young and looks healthy does not mean he is. There are plenty of teenagers with STDs.
 
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