New Macbook Pro...

[hotatlboi]

when i had to do something with my system; my gut reaction is to open up a terminal using the keyboard. every-once-and-a-while i'll be using mac osx or windows xp/vista and, for a split second, i'll forget that you can't use a terminal. (with a mac, you can use a terminal for some things, but not the things that you usually play with anyways).

You can use a terminal for anything on Mac os x. It is a full unix/posix system. It's basically a modified BSD.

but compared to the glaring security holes in mac and windows; those are just peanuts.

Interesting how you lump windows and mac security together. They are worlds apart. The state of Mac security would be more comparable to linux than it would be to Windows. Now 7 years after OS X was first released, there has still not been a single confirmed virus which affects it.

 

[davy]

You can use a terminal for anything on Mac os x. It is a full unix/posix system. It's basically a modified BSD.

heh, really? try this:
- get 10.5.3 or above
- enable sparsebundle
- open a terminal
- change your password the ordinary unix/posix/bsd way
- close the terminal
- reboot the computer
- try to log back in

.... good luck because you're just locked yourself out even if you use the new password. if you're lucky, diskwarrior will save you (and even there you have to use the gui)

(there are even more hidden gems like these )

Interesting how you lump windows and mac security together. They are worlds apart. The state of Mac security would be more comparable to linux than it would be to Windows. Now 7 years after OS X was first released, there has still not been a single confirmed virus which affects it.

let's not argue over it; neither one of us is going to convince the other. i'm being silly and glib in my responses ... i'm only playing.

 

[hotatlboi]

enable sparsebundle

yes, you have to make a nonstandard modification to the system to have any chance of normal unix things not working as expected.

When you have a fully functional gui, and a fully functioning *nix system there are bound to be some inconsistencies. OS X is still really the only *nix gui I consider usable on a completely common user level. It's simple when you want it to be and powerful when you want it to be in my experience, and that's a great combination for me.

 

[hotatlboi]

^

 

[davy]

yes, you have to make a nonstandard modification to the system to have any chance of normal unix things not working as expected.

When you have a fully functional gui, and a fully functioning *nix system there are bound to be some inconsistencies. OS X is still really the only *nix gui I consider usable on a completely common user level. It's simple when you want it to be and powerful when you want it to be in my experience, and that's a great combination for me.

and that's what it comes down to; whether or not it works for you.

... because there's no way on god's green earth you're going to convince me that filevault is a nonstandard modification to the system.

when I touch four fingers to the synaptics pad on my laptop it runs a zenity pipe echoing in a window "Oooh Orion, I love it when you use four fingers on my touch sensitive areas."
then you click ok. and things go back to normal.

....picture......

rotflmao.

you guys are silly.

Keeland: if you want a challenge; i know something a linux system can do, but a mac can't do.

reformat a drive; make it reiserfs and install mac os onto it. (because it's totally possible to install linux on an hfs-plus fs)

how about installing mac on sparc architecture

good luck

 

[hotatlboi]

... because there's no way on god's green earth you're going to convince me that filevault is a nonstandard modification to the system.

I meant nonstandard as in a non-default configuration which most people won't use.