No blacks no Asians no curry no spice... yeah it's definitely racism so stop trying say it's a sexual preference

[NotHardUp1]

What a queer way to view preference.

Racism is the deprivation of a group of human and or civil rights.

It is impossible to view dating anyone as a basic right.

We all have the almost unlimited right to date anyone who will date us, within legal age limits. We live in a society that not only allows people of any race to date or marry, we live in a society that celebrates it.

Suggesting that a man who prefers to not date a hairy man, a skinny man, an older man, a poor man, or a redhead, is somehow depriving those groups of their ability to seek a man who does prefer them, is just plain obsessive victimhood looking for an excuse.

Don't diminish racism by stretching it to cover petty resentment at simply not being preferred. It isn't a right to be loved by everyone. We all have to make our own way. If you're Samoan and find yourself in a dominant society of Chinese and they do not prefer your looks, then you have the prerogative of finding a society where Samoans are more populous if that is what it takes to make you feel like you have sufficient odds in your favor. Otherwise, you deal with the math just like the rest of us do living in a straight society where we are not preferred by 95% of the men around us.

No one should apologize for his sexual preferences. Rhat doesn't mean they get a pass for stating them rudely.

 

[Dominus]

^ Makes sense.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Racism is the deprivation of a group of human and or civil rights.

That's one idea about what racism is, but there are others.

In my view, racism is simply an irrational prejudice.

 

[mikey3000]

but those examples are not ones of SEXUAL ATTRACTIVENESS (well in 99% of cases - there is always the exception creeper) - we are talking bedfellows here not employees (exemption made for Cormac & Vannie)

You said preferences. Those ones I mentioned were preferences.

So let's line up five men. One black, one white, one Asian, one South Asian, and one Aboriginal. What are the biological differences that would determine preference? They all have a dick, two eyes, two arms and legs, hair, a butt. What is the only difference between them? Colour.

 

[opinterph]

Those ones I mentioned were preferences.

The context is entirely different. DepravedMuscleFTL is correct.

 

[peeonme]

"Preference" means, "I like vanilla, chocolate and strawberry, but out of the three, I prefer vanilla. However, if you don't have vanilla, chocolate or strawberry will do. It isn't preference to say, "I Prefer ONLY Vanilla." Then you are saying, "I don't like ANYTHING except Vanilla." One is "options," the other is "nothing BUT/ONLY."

Preference means different things to different people. I have seen it used more than once when a person refers to their sexuality. If a man prefers other men, does that make him sexist? What if a black man states that he only wants people of color, no whites? A person likes what they like.

 

[Dominus]

note to self: we need a bait smiley.

This is not a bait thread. We have a lively but respectful discussion so far. Have you ever considered that perhaps, just perhaps just because a topic invokes strong opinions from people doesn't mean it's a bait topic?

 

[mikey3000]

The context is entirely different. DepravedMuscleFTL is correct.

Preference has been used by almost everyone posting in this thread, it's even in the title. How is my context different, because it has to do with sex?

If a job ad said, "no blacks or fatties," people's heads would be exploding. How is one racism and the other isn't? Just because one is advertising for an employee and the other is advertising for a sex partner, does that really make the context different?

 

[KaraBulut]

This is not a bait thread. We have a lively but respectful discussion so far. Have you ever considered that perhaps, just perhaps just because a topic invokes strong opinions from people doesn't mean it's a bait topic?

It's also unoriginal and a topic that invariably spirals into the same controversies.

racist or preference?
racist guys?
Racism in the gay community
do u like certain types of races or nationlities??
Do you have a racial preference
Sexual Attraction and Race
Is race the most important thing to you?
The Racism and Fat Shaming and Extreme Femme Shaming and Misogyny in the LGBTQUAPI+ Communitty
"Oh Im not into Black guys..."
Being Asian in a Gay World
Can blacks and asians mix
The Gay Community Needs To Stop Hating on Femme/Camp/Queeny Gays.....
Taralen's 2018 Random Musings About Life...
I just want a white boyfriend.

 

[belamyi]

"Spice" means "ginger"? Yum!

 

[mcbrion]

It's also unoriginal and a topic that invariably spirals into the same controversies.

racist or preference?
racist guys?
Racism in the gay community
do u like certain types of races or nationlities??
Do you have a racial preference
Sexual Attraction and Race
Is race the most important thing to you?
The Racism and Fat Shaming and Extreme Femme Shaming and Misogyny in the LGBTQUAPI+ Communitty
"Oh Im not into Black guys..."
Being Asian in a Gay World
Can blacks and asians mix
The Gay Community Needs To Stop Hating on Femme/Camp/Queeny Gays.....
Taralen's 2018 Random Musings About Life...
I just want a white boyfriend.

It seems odd that people "spiral" around preference, when there is only one choice. "One choice" means "excluding all others." So, there can be NO preference without at least two variables, which some in this thread simper and whine and accuse other of nothing other than being "hurt" at "simply not being the preferred one." What a simplistic, intellectual argument. It certainly doesn't come thru the Spirit, which sees past the mundane. No, this is an argument of the mind, using tables and fabricating numbers to "win" instead of "learn."

How can there be a preferred if there is Yin but no Yang? Day, but no Night? Reductive, soulless, theories about "hurt feelings" sidestep the issue, but then, there are those who cannot bear to think past their limited palette, which they deem "choice" (or "preference.") And the absurd comparisons to "if I'm gay and don't like women, am I sexist" are just that...absurd. If one is a straight woman and doesn't want a gay man for partner, is she then "sexist"? Ye Gods, the lack of persuasive intelligence is astounding. Well, "If I have one arm, do I have a choice which arm to swing with"? Or one leg? One eye? One ear? As conversations go, those most threatened by the possibility of acknowledging their shortcomings make the loudest noises against a simple acknowledgement: If I've got one eye, I have no "preference" which one I see with. Laughable.

But you are right: this is like the Impeachment of Donald Trump on these Forums, with most responses being akin to those of the Senate. Corrupted by ignorance (and fear). I say, let them live in their ignorance. Nothing can be resolved on a forum of never-hads. I've never seen as much sound and fury over anything aside from "race" on these forums, with the (mostly White) guys screaming at the top of their lungs without being able to calmly assess the facts. As any psychologist knows, one doesn't react to that which is not pricking you and causing you discomfort. Which only makes me shake my head. So many in here are exactly like the Republican Senate: deny, deny, deny.

 

[belamyi]

that's bullshit - walk down the street and watch a group of men walk by - you will immediately be drawn to what attracts you - some guys will look for the young twinks - while guys like me will be immediately drawn to butch types that look like they chew nails for breakfast - I have a bud who ONLY dates and plays with Asian guys - does that mean he is racist against everyone else including his own race? no - it means he is attracted to Asian guys - here are 3 pics - I dare you to tell me that you find them all EQUALLY attractive:

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Damn, that ginger guy is absofuckinglutely dreamy.

As for the topic, what the sensible around here alreay said... as if there was any need to insist for the deaf and blind.

Even if I might end up having better sex with any of the other two... or with both.

 

[ChristianGianni]

Agreed. My "PREFERENCE" is to know who THE RACISTS are, so I can avoid them. Wherever they are is where I don't want to be...

Being half Italian I've put up with a lot of racist crap in my 26 years, even today I had a guy who didn't want to ride in the back of the
Ambulance with a ''wog'' Nurse. WE ALL breathe the same air, feel pain, joy and sorrow, put our pants on one leg at a time, and believe me, the blood that pours from the wounds and injuries I tend to every day is the same red also. I've NO time for racists in any shape or form. And as for sex, or preferance when it comes to a partner I'd never turn down a guy based on the color of his skin or his ethnicity. I also laugh at my fellow countrymen and woman who subscbribe to the KKK's ''thinking'', they are all so ''holier than thou'' and spout their hatred and this and that from the Bible, and yet doesn't the Bible tell us WE ALL are descendants of Adam & Eve

 

[NotHardUp1]

So let's line up five men. One black, one white, one Asian, one South Asian, and one Aboriginal. What are the biological differences that would determine preference? They all have a dick, two eyes, two arms and legs, hair, a butt. What is the only difference between them? Colour.

Your logic and assertions are equally wrong. Phenotypes are a lot more varied than how many legs, eyes, and the rest of the list. Your assumption is that sexual attractiveness is reduced to "is the other guy a male?" If that were so, all the dating apps would be bankrupt, as no need in all that searching and filtering.

As to race as a phenotype, there certainly are physical characteristics that evolved over time between races. Suggesting they don't exist is incredible. Traits are not as pronounced or expressed the same in every member of a population, nor are they as distinct when races are mixed and attributes blurred. Aside from skin tone there is hair color and type, nose shape, skin texture, dental characteristics, kips, eye color, ear shapes and placement, body shapes and types, and other markers. Although the overwhelming majority of the DNA is identical, the bits that differ are certainly not subtle.

Consider the genetics we have in common with the apes. Yet that small variance in a tiny fraction of our genes makes the differences in phenotype between a chimpanzee and a human quite pronounced, including gait, posture, body hair, nails, skin, and genitals.

In addition, you didn't name races. You named two skin colors and then two geographic euphemisms, then a race. "Asian" never has described a race and never will. It is an evasion of using race as a descriptor, which is legitimate, but it is oblique to any discussion of race as biological race.

Suggesting physical sexual attraction is not in some degree biologically based, driven by thousands of years of identification by tribe, is little more than a denial of the obvious. It has little to do with social justice a a lot to do with genes and the levers of sexual attraction. For some, they don't affect it as much, but the numbers are the numbers. Cultures idealize beauty and physical attractiveness, and adolescents absorb much of that as they come of age. Some move beyond it, but it is shaped by whatever the dominant culture is where that process occurs.

 

[belamyi]

^ People, racist or not, are not aware that the sort of racism of white supremacy is a very modern phaenomenon, and is derived from the rising of modern Western nations in the last two centuries: until the fall of the Ancient Regime in Europe, being below the ranks of nobility, particularly in you were below bourgeois level, made you, literally, as good as an animal to upper class humans: today you may laugh at new rich kids calling anyone "peasant" but, only two centuries back, for all the increasing changes in society, in 1820 The System took peasants for creatures as soulless as Descartes' dogs, and christianizing was a mere form of taming and domestication.

But following the takeoff or the industrial nations of Western Europe, and the progressive gentrification and democratization spreading to lower classes, "soulless peasants" were allowed to think of themselves as superior-born just based on their skin colour, with a degree of overbearingness than only Western Imperialism was allowed to sanction in a far rutheless way than ever before by any other ruling nation that may have been powerful before, black, white, Asian or whatever.

And that is the world in which we are living, and that's the reason why any Spaniard can't feel the real depth of the racial discrimination suffered by black people because, Spaniards begin considered in Northern European nations (notice I am not saying "by Northern European..."), to a great extent, "racially impure", and having an approach to race and nations closer to that of the Classical Ancient World, more related to class and religion than ethnicity, and "impure blood" was more related to lineage than genome, and "race" exclusion was then either irrelevant or secondary. You can see that even today in Spain class prejudice system: the "conservative", leaving aside the infection by Northern European prejudice, will consider themselves closer to whatever other upper class Asian or black, and they will laugh at whomever is below their ranks, no matter their looks, just like old nobility would appreciate more the equivalent qualities in other nations' ethnicities, than in the like-skinned around them.

So much, then, for the spreading of Western democracy: basically, it allowed the mindless to consider themselves superior for being white, and having made other ethnicities vote and allow them to "rob" them their peasant jobs.

 

[belamyi]

Ageism, classism, racism... how do you call prejudice based on perceived intelligence?

 

[belamyi]

The other day I read an ad from a guy apparently looking for fat guys, since his text seemed specifically aimed at excluding people like me: he said "no bald, no hairy, no over-40 guys"

 

[rareboy]

It's also unoriginal and a topic that invariably spirals into the same controversies.

racist or preference?
racist guys?
Racism in the gay community
do u like certain types of races or nationlities??
Do you have a racial preference
Sexual Attraction and Race
Is race the most important thing to you?
The Racism and Fat Shaming and Extreme Femme Shaming and Misogyny in the LGBTQUAPI+ Communitty
"Oh Im not into Black guys..."
Being Asian in a Gay World
Can blacks and asians mix
The Gay Community Needs To Stop Hating on Femme/Camp/Queeny Gays.....
Taralen's 2018 Random Musings About Life...
I just want a white boyfriend.

Pretty much this.

And it always ends up the same way.

Over the years, I have found men of every race and ethnicity very attractive because of certain physical qualities perhaps, but also because of the way they present themselves with their body language, eyes and often, their smile. So i don't understand why some guys are exclusively attracted to a single race any more than I understand why some white guys don't find red heads attractive...or won't date short guys, etc.

 

[DepravedMuscleFTL]

You said preferences. Those ones I mentioned were preferences.

So let's line up five men. One black, one white, one Asian, one South Asian, and one Aboriginal. What are the biological differences that would determine preference? They all have a dick, two eyes, two arms and legs, hair, a butt. What is the only difference between them? Colour.

NO SIR - different races have traits beyond different colour - hair - hair texture - hair colour - eye shape - eye color - etc. - culture - values - beliefs - religion - these are just a few examples that give varying degrees of attractiveness to varying people - find me a NATURAL Asian ginger with big blue eyes who is hairy bearded and with big shoulders.... IF you can find one what is the odds of me bumping into him?

mcbrion = just for the record I posted pics of 3 men in which I DO personally find ALL of them EXTREMELY attractive - irony....

belamo - the ginger is a semi famous celebrity - his name is Bryce - I call him Brycy - and he is a member of the pit crew on RuPauls Drag Race - ironically he is straight... there is a small thread on JUB about him....
https://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/470644-Bryce-Eilenberg-RPDR-Pit-Crew

 

[HoodedRat]

I like guys of all races and colours.

I'm mainly drawn to eyes, smile, and height: I love short, slim/skinny guys. (I'm 5'7" and I like guys shorter than I am).

But there are a few other characteristics that really push my buttons and add to a guy's attractiveness.

The main ones being that I absolutely adore dark skin, jet black hair, and dark eyes.

So, as a default, I am far more likely to find a middle-eastern, or southeast-asian guy attractive as opposed to a blond haired, blue-eyed northern european*.


But that's because I am a racist.


* No offence intend to my melanin deficient Jubing friends here I myself am of a rather sickly, pale, greyish-white hue.


PS. I also love gingers.